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So I've been finding myself talking quite a bit lately about all the plot holes and continuity errors we as DC readers have been faced with over the past two years. OYL destroyed the DCU's sense of continuity and the company's editorial oversight by giving editors, and to a lesser extent creators, an impossible task.
So what are some of your favorite/least favorite plot holes and continuity ****ups that DC's given us? Figured it'd be interesting to talk about some of them.
For me...
Two Legions of Super-Heroes: I know Geoff's gonna explain this, because he's Geoff Johns, but I really don't appreciate the way it's been dragged out for so long. How long's it been since Lightning Saga now, and we still don't know why there are two Legions! This isn't right, DC, and it's EXTREMELY alienating to new readers of the Legion.
Two Brothers Eye: Brother Eye in Countdown is a bombastic, Kirby-inspired, over-the-top, Silver-Age, crazy-mother****er villain, and his OMACs are just as lovably goofball evil as well, and I love every panel of it. But Brother Eye in Batman and the Outsiders is secretive, behind-the-scenes, manipulative, political, and ****ing scary-dangerous, in a politically-connected way that rivals the terror of Batman's original creation. And I love every panel of that, too. But I do NOT love being presented with two such drastically different faces of one character. Fix it, DC.
Three Deaths of the New Gods: This one just might be finally getting tied up. I'm starting to feel like the overall scenario is this: The Source, seeking to unify its halves, possessed the Infinity-Man to harvest the Souls of the New Gods as part of a larger plan to unleash Anti-Life and this and that and the other and reunify, as masterfully depicted by Jim Starlin. Meanwhile, Darkseid had a plan. He would hide the avatars of all the deceased New Gods (no telling how he got control of them) inside Jimmy Olsen (no telling how he did that), for later use by himself. Then his planet got attacked by Brother Eye, so he dealt with that, and after that was over, he went back to figuring out how to deal with the killer. He abandoned his Olsen plan, realizing that this was no ordinary killer. He came up with something else, hinted at and shown in the latest issue of Starlin's DotNG, and is now about to do battle with the Source. In the final issue, I predict that Darkseid defeats the Source, which leads directly into Final Crisis. On the other hand, there's still no explanation for how Metron could die in DotNG (unequivocally: he is ****ing DEAD) and yet show up to stare weirdly at Anthro The First Boy in the first issue of Final Crisis.
Where The **** Was Wally?: We've been discussing this in the Flash thread. Fastest Man Alive seemed to suggest that all the speedsters took Superboy-Prime to some weird not-quite-Earth-2 place. Infinite Crisis itself suggested that they all went to the Speed Force. Mark Waid just said, "**** it, they went to some place I just made up called Savoth." THOSE ARE NOT ALL CONSISTENT.
What are yours?
So what are some of your favorite/least favorite plot holes and continuity ****ups that DC's given us? Figured it'd be interesting to talk about some of them.
For me...
Two Legions of Super-Heroes: I know Geoff's gonna explain this, because he's Geoff Johns, but I really don't appreciate the way it's been dragged out for so long. How long's it been since Lightning Saga now, and we still don't know why there are two Legions! This isn't right, DC, and it's EXTREMELY alienating to new readers of the Legion.
Two Brothers Eye: Brother Eye in Countdown is a bombastic, Kirby-inspired, over-the-top, Silver-Age, crazy-mother****er villain, and his OMACs are just as lovably goofball evil as well, and I love every panel of it. But Brother Eye in Batman and the Outsiders is secretive, behind-the-scenes, manipulative, political, and ****ing scary-dangerous, in a politically-connected way that rivals the terror of Batman's original creation. And I love every panel of that, too. But I do NOT love being presented with two such drastically different faces of one character. Fix it, DC.
Three Deaths of the New Gods: This one just might be finally getting tied up. I'm starting to feel like the overall scenario is this: The Source, seeking to unify its halves, possessed the Infinity-Man to harvest the Souls of the New Gods as part of a larger plan to unleash Anti-Life and this and that and the other and reunify, as masterfully depicted by Jim Starlin. Meanwhile, Darkseid had a plan. He would hide the avatars of all the deceased New Gods (no telling how he got control of them) inside Jimmy Olsen (no telling how he did that), for later use by himself. Then his planet got attacked by Brother Eye, so he dealt with that, and after that was over, he went back to figuring out how to deal with the killer. He abandoned his Olsen plan, realizing that this was no ordinary killer. He came up with something else, hinted at and shown in the latest issue of Starlin's DotNG, and is now about to do battle with the Source. In the final issue, I predict that Darkseid defeats the Source, which leads directly into Final Crisis. On the other hand, there's still no explanation for how Metron could die in DotNG (unequivocally: he is ****ing DEAD) and yet show up to stare weirdly at Anthro The First Boy in the first issue of Final Crisis.
Where The **** Was Wally?: We've been discussing this in the Flash thread. Fastest Man Alive seemed to suggest that all the speedsters took Superboy-Prime to some weird not-quite-Earth-2 place. Infinite Crisis itself suggested that they all went to the Speed Force. Mark Waid just said, "**** it, they went to some place I just made up called Savoth." THOSE ARE NOT ALL CONSISTENT.
What are yours?