[Poll] Upcoming DC villians on Smallville

[Brainiac 2009]

Vote for the DC Comics villian you'd want to see on Smallville:

Bizarro

Darkseid

Eradicator

Metallo

Parasite

Doomsday

The Cyborg

Mongul

Intergang

Toyman

Lobo

The vast majority of these characters would need extensive makeup and CG effects to resemble their comic counterparts (that likely exceeds SV's budget range). How would you 'adapt' some of these characters for Smallville?

Note: Gough mentioned the villian may not be tied to Luthor (which may eliminate Metallo).

 

[Kaboom]

well considering we already had a cyborg type creature, i think metallo would be out.

leaving the next likely villian as Parasite i think.

although toyman was done in lois and clark, so maybe they could bring dean cain in for that role as like an homage?

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Question though does the villain they get depend on who is being used for the other project first, because out of the list I would love to see Parasite, Darkseid and Mongul.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

My personal preference is they should go with Lionel Luthor unleashing the power of Eradicator or something.

Since its the final season next fall, it'd be nice to tie this villian to the Krypton storyline.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

of the list I would love to see Parasite, Darkseid and Mongul.

It'd be nearly impossible to represent those characters as they appear in the comics and other mediums with SV's television budget. How would you 'adapt' these characters to make them work on SV?

 

[Tempest19]

Metallo. Yeah, we had a cyborg villain- but, come on that was hardly anything!!!

I'm talking real Terminator vs. Terminator action.

Hard core fighting: smashing each other into walls, clobbering the hell out of each other. Metal vs. Steel. The ultimate showdown of STRENGTH- not technological wielders.

With Lex's working on Cyborg, he could use that as the basis of building up Metallo.

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Bizarro would also be cool, but how? I'm not that familiar with the mythos but wouldn't someone need Clark's blood? That would mean that person knows Clark's secret.

They could give us a form of this though- by having an Onyx type situation. Breaking Red K Clark out of Clark and having them duke it out. That would be cool, and more or less, the same thing- only instead of stupid we've got bad ass.

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Lobo would also be cool- an bounty hunter who has been searching for Clark and is going to head hunt him. Imagine a biker type character, big fat, mustache, etc. your average guy at a biker bar being taken over by Lobo (similar to the Phantoms) or this is the form that Lobo takes on when he reaches Earth. Sorry DC fans, I've only seen Lobo in the cartoons when he looks like:

So, I don't know if Lobo is like this in the comic books as well.

In other words, Lobo looks like his comic book form- but more human... picture the above with flesh skin rather than white... you've got a biker. Thus, you've got Lobo.

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Personally thinks it's way too soon for Doomsday. Isn't he the one who killed Superman? Clark can't even fight yet- he'd be like a human rag doll up against Doomsday.

 

[RakuMon]

I posted this in the Al Gough thread:

With SV's reliance on "Krypto-Freaks" a John Corben appearance makes the most sense, doesn't it?

Another obscure villain I always thought was perfect for SV is Conduit. Like Metallo, he's a Kryptonite-based baddie. Also his backstory works for Smallville as well:

On the night he was born, Kenny suffers a high level of radiation poisoning due to exposure to kryptonite when Kal-El's starship pases over the Braverman's car, which had skidded on ice caused by a snowstorm on their way to the hospital. While his health fails from time to time, he always manages to recover. He even becomes a remarkable athlete at Smallville High, although he always comes in second place in sporting events after Clark Kent. In order to learn how to manage the changes his body goes through, he volunteers to be thoroughly examined by the CIA. He accepts a covert job in France that is thwarted by Clark, unknownst to him.

Kenny always despised Clark and once he learned to control his powers by focusing them through his suit, he tries to kill Clark and Lois Lane with metal gauntlets on each arm that can emit beams of kryptonite radiation. While he fails to kill them, he ends up dueling Superman (not knowing that he is Clark Kent).

When Conduit discovers Superman's secret identity he proceeded to stalk Clark, sending him notes saying "I KNOW" and planting bombs intended to kill his friends and co-workers. Kenny is convinced that when they had raced as children, Clark had possessed all of the powers he possesses as Superman, and thus had 'cheated'. Seeing no other option, Superman attempts to forsake his identity as Clark Kent and go into hiding, but Kenny eventually tracks him down and knocks him unconscious.

Kenny then proceeds to place Clark in a fake Smallville set twenty years in the past filled with android versions of its citizens programmed to hate Superman. Several of them attack Superman, including imitations of Jonathan and Martha Kent and Lois (the only one who doesn't appear younger because Kenny hadn't known Lois in those days). Once Superman figures out Conduit is waiting for him at the high school football stadium, they fight one-on-one as Clark versus Kenny; no powers. Kenny resorts to using his kryptonite powers and the hand-to-hand escalates to an all-out brawl that heavily damaged the stadium. In a desperate attempt to defeat Clark, Kenny channels the stadium's electrical energy powering the robot audience (all of which were built in the image of Kenny's father) into himself. As a result, Kenny overloads and dies. Saddened by the loss of his old friend, Superman returns Kenny's body to his father, where he criticizes the man for only focusing on Kenny's losses rather than congratulating him for what he did achieve in life.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

It'd be nearly impossible to represent those characters as they appear in the comics and other mediums with SV's television budget. How would you 'adapt' these characters to make them work on SV?

This is SV we're talking about on this show thee comic history isn't important Parasite would be easy to do if he got the SV treatment a meteor freak who has the powers to take other peoples life force.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

Another obscure villain I always thought was perfect for SV is Conduit. Like Metallo, he's a Kryptonite-based baddie. Also his backstory works for Smallville as well:

The problem with Conduit is there was no Kenny Braverman during seasons 1-4. Someone that close to Clark we would have known about. They obviously didnt want to bring him in (well given the character has been long dead in the comics).

 

[Brainiac 2009]

This is SV we're talking about on this show thee comic history isn't important Parasite would be easy to do if he got the SV treatment a meteor freak who has the powers to take other peoples life force.

And Darkseid and Mongul?

 

[RakuMon]

Bizarro would also be cool, but how? I'm not that familiar with the mythos but wouldn't someone need Clark's blood? That would mean that person knows Clark's secret.

Actually, in Seasons 2 and 3, there was a whole story arc concerning Clark's blood. That's why I think they're ripe for a Bizarro episode. Since the Luthor's already have experience with cloning (Emily Dunsmore, anyone?), Lex could reveal that he still has one of Helen's vials of blood. The clone can be deformed enough that he doesn't recognize Bizarro as Clark's clone.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Bizarro, Metal, and Toyman would be cool to see.

 

[RakuMon]

The problem with Conduit is there was no Kenny Braverman during seasons 1-4. Someone that close to Clark we would have known about. They obviously didnt want to bring him in (well given the character has been long dead in the comics).

True. But he could still be a stalker from Smallville who was jealous of Clark and shows up now to terrorize him and his friends.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

And Darkseid and Mongul?

Darkseid could be easy as well have him start out like how he did in S:TAS with him sending one of his servants to Lex and giving him weapons and technology far beyond what is out there today. Although now thinking about it a Darkseid arc would look a lot like Zod.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

True. But he could still be a stalker from Smallville who was jealous of Clark and shows up now to terrorize him and his friends.

lol not another one.

I think it would have made a great story in the earlier seasons though, especially if the Kenny character was introduced first and not a random one-shot psycho like Gabriel.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

Darkseid could be easy as well have him start out like how he did in S:TAS with him sending one of his servants to Lex and giving him weapons and technology far beyond what is out there today. Although now thinking about it a Darkseid arc would look a lot like Zod.

And how would Darkseid even look? They obviously cant make him the huge stonefaced monster from the comics on SV's budget. They couldnt even make Martian Manhunter green.

 

[Threshold]

Variations of all these villains have shown up except for the obvious few (Darkseid, Lobo, Mongul, etc).

The only one that I could see making an appearance, which would mean that GoughMillar would have to find the character a plausible addition to the SMALLVILLE mythology is... Eradicator.

Shawn Ashmore's been the Parasite character, Bizarro would be cool but they might feel it's been done with all the kryptonite-esque Clarks, the guy from that Sawesque episode (the one mainly featuring Lionel and Martha) was essentially a poor man's Toyman, they've introduced Vic "Cyborg" Stone which would only make Metallo and The Cyborg a bit too confusing for audiences, and so on and so forth.

I don't see them doing Lobo, Darkseid, or Doomsday. So I guess it'd be between The Eradicator and Bizarro.

 

[avidreader]

And how would Darkseid even look? They obviously cant make him the huge stonefaced monster from the comics on SV's budget. They couldnt even make Martian Manhunter green.

I dont think its budget so much, more that they want to base their characters realistically.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

And how would Darkseid even look? They obviously cant make him the huge stonefaced monster from the comics on SV's budget. They couldnt even make Martian Manhunter green.

Do they need to show him? I mean Clark should not fight Darkseid till he is Superman, but that Darkseid can start trying to take over his world.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

I dont think its budget so much, more that they want to base their characters realistically.

True but theyve done so many strange and absurd storylines involving elements like magic. If they can break out of reality on pen and paper, why not asthetically?

They would need to have to eventually for Clark to wear the cape and tights, which is a pretty 'out there' asthetic concept. Even the JLAers didnt wear tights on SV or anything remotely close.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

Do they need to show him? I mean Clark should not fight Darkseid till he is Superman, but that Darkseid can start trying to take over his world.

Clark shouldnt really fight any of these villians till hes Superman, yet here we are.

I dont see the logic of bringing Darkseid in when they can't even show him. It's like a buildup and teaser to nothing.

 

[thebigtree95]

If I had to choose from that list it would be Corben or Lobo.

No Bizarro. Am I the only one that hates Bizzaro and his backward speaking self? If I wanted to hear that talk I'd go on a cross country trip with my brother's kids.


My brother doesn't really have any kids, and I don't have a brother. That's a Rodney Carrington bit. t:

 

[RakuMon]

lol not another one.

I think it would have made a great story in the earlier seasons though, especially if the Kenny character was introduced first and not a random one-shot psycho like Gabriel.

Agreed. Always thought Kenny Braverman could have been a perfect character for Smallville in the earlier seasons. Conduit's a pretty weak character in his own right though, that's why I think GoughLar passed up a nice opportunity to put their spin on an (weakly) established DC character.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

Well it may not have been their choice. DC is pretty tight about this stuff, especially characters they killed in the comics and want forgetten.

 

[Tempest19]

Audiences would not confuse Metallo and Cyborg. That's ridiculous, in my opinion.

For one, they look nothing alike.

Just have Metallo be Lex's next step in the Cyborg project. We already know that Lex "made" Cyborg... so let him just do the same thing to Metallo, but an upgrade. The mythology for Metallo is ALREADY there. Nothing that would confuse an audience- just the next step in the evolution of the mythos.