Popular and/or long-standing characters that you just couldn't get into.

The Batman of the comics. I like the character in virtually every other medium but the comics Batman comes off as an ******* who has been made too powerful. He's meant to be a normal human but is taking down guys he has no business fighting. I can read stories like Year One, Long Halloween TDKR and enjoy him but I can't get into his ongoing series.

I agree. With a few exceptions, I really can't stand Batman comics. I like the movies a lot more; for example, when it comes to Batman's origin, I like the story of Batman Begins a lot more than Year One. I suspect I'll feel the same way about The Dark Knight in relation to The Killing Joke/The Long Halloween.

fifthfiend said:
I would say that the pinnacle of this is Alan Moore writing Supreme.

Alan Moore writing any Image character, really.

Yes! Alan Moore's revamp of Supreme was godly. I think it may be my favorite of all of Moore's work.
 
I still think Mask of the Phantasm is the greatest Batman movie of all time. Although it looks like there's a good chance that'll change next weekend.
 
I think there was a legal dispute w/Marvel over the name, so it was agreed that the name "Captain Marvel" would never appear on the cover of any comic.
I never got into him b/c all I see is a knock-off of Superman, which is what DC saw 60 years ago.

I know why they can't call his comics Captain Marvel, but that doesn't stop me being annoyed that his comics aren't called Captain Marvel, and for some reason this makes me unable to get into any comic about the character, which under other circumstances I would actually be inclined to enjoy.

I'll freely admit that it's a pretty stupid thing to get hung up on, but there it is.
 
S'okay. I'm still not sure why I hate Daredevil so much, but I just can't stand that f***er.
 
That, too-I can't think of a single story involving Cobblepot that really did it for me, y'know?

That's kind of funny. One of my all time favorite Batman stories has Cobblepot as the main character.
 
Ironman(comic) comes to mind. They're just so boring.
 
One of my posts somehow got in-between your two posts. It was weird.
 
I should also say Blade. I'd never really cared about him until the movie. I never read any "Tomb Of Dracula" comics or got into the "Nightstalkers" all that much. And even after the movies I still found most of his comics unenjoyable.
 
Fantastic Four, The Avengers, The Hulk, X-Men, and any DC book that isn't Vertigo or an Elseworlds title
 
I should also say Blade. I'd never really cared about him until the movie. I never read any "Tomb Of Dracula" comics or got into the "Nightstalkers" all that much. And even after the movies I still found most of his comics unenjoyable.
I think that's more because his comics were mostly bad. I vaguely liked the character from the Nightstalkers/Midnight Sons stuff, and I haven't been able to get into any of his recent comics, either. Hopefully that'll change when he returns home to England for Captain Britain and MI-13, though. :)
 
And that would be? Maybe I missed it.

I forget the title. It was written by Alan Grant, and it had The Penguin kidnapping and torturing an enforcer for a Chicago mob simply because it was his old rival from high school and now he could get away with it. It explained The Penguin's origin and his desire for control.
 
That might actually be interesting. Maybe. Like I said, no Penguin story I've ever read has been all that memorable.
 
I agree. With a few exceptions, I really can't stand Batman comics. I like the movies a lot more; for example, when it comes to Batman's origin, I like the story of Batman Begins a lot more than Year One. I suspect I'll feel the same way about The Dark Knight in relation to The Killing Joke/The Long Halloween.

I think the biggest problem where Batman is concerned is that he's been so inconsistently written over the last 60 years. He kills. He doesn't kill. He's a psycho vigilante. He's a superhero. He's a narcissist. He's a father figure. He's distrustful by nature. He's a team player. He's a spooky, dark, inhuman creature of the night-a man of mystery who criminals aren't convinced even exists. He's a well-known public figure AND A MEMBER OF THE JUSTICE LEAGUE!!!!! That one, in particular, never made a whole lot of sense to me. It seems a publicity stunt to even put him in there in the first place. He's a loner & the protector of Gotham City. But he goes off on cosmic adventures with a team of aliens, magicians & a variety of superpowers? Generally speaking, if there's a menace so powerful that Superman, Wonder Woman & Green Lantern can't take them down, I don't see Batman being a whole lot of help. That whole "I am the Batman-fear me" bit isn't going to do a lot of good against somebody like Darkseid. If he can stomp Superman into the ground & still have time to order a sandwich before delivering the knockout blow, what's a Batarang gonna mean to him? It's just an ill fit in my opinion. And it's quite possibly a large part of the reason for the longevity of the annoying blue cape & cowl; he's spending all this time with superheroes-he needs to look more the part.
 
I think the biggest problem where Batman is concerned is that he's been so inconsistently written over the last 60 years. He kills. He doesn't kill. He's a psycho vigilante. He's a superhero. He's a narcissist. He's a father figure. He's distrustful by nature. He's a team player. He's a spooky, dark, inhuman creature of the night-a man of mystery who criminals aren't convinced even exists. He's a well-known public figure AND A MEMBER OF THE JUSTICE LEAGUE!!!!! That one, in particular, never made a whole lot of sense to me. It seems a publicity stunt to even put him in there in the first place. He's a loner & the protector of Gotham City. But he goes off on cosmic adventures with a team of aliens, magicians & a variety of superpowers? Generally speaking, if there's a menace so powerful that Superman, Wonder Woman & Green Lantern can't take them down, I don't see Batman being a whole lot of help. That whole "I am the Batman-fear me" bit isn't going to do a lot of good against somebody like Darkseid. If he can stomp Superman into the ground & still have time to order a sandwich before delivering the knockout blow, what's a Batarang gonna mean to him? It's just an ill fit in my opinion. And it's quite possibly a large part of the reason for the longevity of the annoying blue cape & cowl; he's spending all this time with superheroes-he needs to look more the part.

The character has been written so inconsistently for one reason, really: his popularity.

He's on these adventures in space because readers love him so much. He's fighting villains that could stomp the tar out of him because people pay to read it.

He had to get past the street-avenger style hero he used to be. His fans demanded it.

Well, that, and the comic companies can't help but try to create ridiculously uber-powered characters... then they realize that some of their heroes don't have the power to fight them, and have to play with continuity again.
 
The urban avenger is who he is. The thing comic companies haven't figured out yet is that when you tamper with the basic formula of who the character is, you run the risk of destroying it. Batman shouldn't be a galaxy-hopping adventurer any more than Spider-Man should live in a luxury apartment, wear a high-tech armored suit & reveal his identity to the public. Or Daredevil get his sight back.
Saying that his popularity brought it about just backs up my statement that it was a publicity stunt; a marketing ploy. But at the cost of good storytelling.
 
I actually have no problem with Bruce going about and having wacky adventures with the JLA, as long as they don't deify him by making him the unstoppable bat-god and simply make his main addition to the team strategic thinking. That works. He sits back, comes up with plans, and sneaks about and busts heads when he can. Working from the shadows just how he likes it.
 

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