popular Directors you are really sick of but afraid to admit to.

[blud_knight]

Well here is a fire storm but why the hell not.
Keep in mind that this thread is purely for entertainment purposes.

Ok here we go

Quentin Tarantino
m night shyamalan*
George Lucas
Bryan Singer

bring on the arguments!

 

[The Shape]

Well here is a fire storm but why the hell not.
Keep in mind that this thread is purely for entertainment purposes.

Ok here we go

Quentin Tarantino
m night shyamalan*
George Lucas
Bryan Singer

bring on the arguments!

I don't really think M. Night is overrated, seeing as nobody likes him anymore. As for Lucas, yeah he's the man behind Star Wars but I think we all know that he absolutely sucks at directing.

 

[blud_knight]

I used to have faith in Lucas until i found out all of the things that I loved about the first trillogy, things that I thought brought charm, and style, he would love to change now that he is filthy stinking rich.

 

[Sam Fisher]

I don't really think M. Night is overrated, seeing as nobody likes him anymore. As for Lucas, yeah he's the man behind Star Wars but I think we all know that he absolutely sucks at directing.

He sucks at a lot more than that{"cough"holiday special"cough"}

 

[blud_knight]

^ I saw that once. OMG that was ten pounds of stupid in a six pound bag!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Secret_Riddle]

Speilberg.

I mean he was great, but hes become more of a label on movies then an actual revolutionary director.

People see Speiberg on a movie and it sells tickets. Whens the last time Speilberg made a true masterpiece?

(A.I and War of the worlds do not count...they could have been directed by anyone)

 

[Movies205]

Speilberg.

I mean he was great, but hes become more of a label on movies then an actual revolutionary director.

People see Speiberg on a movie and it sells tickets. Whens the last time Speilberg made a true masterpiece?

(A.I and War of the worlds do not count...they could have been directed by anyone)

Munich I'd love to talk more but it's time for 24!!!

 

[Fenrir]

Speilberg.

I mean he was great, but hes become more of a label on movies then an actual revolutionary director.

People see Speiberg on a movie and it sells tickets. Whens the last time Speilberg made a true masterpiece?

(A.I and War of the worlds do not count...they could have been directed by anyone)

His last film, Munich, was a masterpiece in every sense of the word. And if you haven't seen Schindler's List, then you have no right to criticize Spielberg.

 

[Warhammer]

Spielberg is NOT overrated.
He deserves the hype for the movies that he had done.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

Alright, you got me in the fact that i forgot about Munich.

But for whoever asked if i had seen Schindlers List...the answer is yes, and its very good. However that movie is 14 years old now. I said his recent movies are not up to his past quality.

Schindlers list, E.t, Jurrasic Park, Close encounters, Indiana, Private Ryan.

I think all of those are better then Munich, AI, Minority Report...

They're all great movies. But lately i find that his name is on so much stuff, most of which he doesnt even direct. People just use his name to sell tickets now. Its only every 4 or 5 years that we get an actual treat from speilberg(his movies are never bad). It used to be if you saw Spielberg on a project you could expect quality. Now thats not the case especially since hes gotten involved in the executive producer/ producer roles in certain films.

Hes a talented director but theres so many others that never get the recognition he does, and they are equally as talented, Alfonso Cauron, Del Toro (who is finally getting praise for pan), Nolan, heck even Coppola, who is often credited with directing the best movie ever(in manys opinion) doesnt get as much praise as speilberg. Doesnt that make him over-rated in a sense?

After all hes not always writing these masterpieces, he just films them, which of course is not insulting his skills in the least, I'm just saying that often the scripts which he directs are excellent to begin with, where as other talented directors arent as lucky.

 

[Fenrir]

Hes a talented director but theres so many others that never get the recognition he does, and they are equally as talented, Alfonso Cauron, Del Toro (who is finally getting praise for pan), Nolan, heck even Coppola, who is often credited with directing the best movie ever(in manys opinion) doesnt get as much praise as speilberg. Doesnt that make him over-rated in a sense?

No, it means that those other directors you listed are underrated. Spielberg deserves every bit of the praise he gets. Just because there are other talented filmmakers out there who don't get their due doesn't mean that we should make any less of Spielberg.

After all hes not always writing these masterpieces, he just films them, which of course is not insulting his skills in the least, I'm just saying that often the scripts which he directs are excellent to begin with, where as other talented directors arent as lucky.

Writing and directing are totally different crafts. I don't even know how that is relevant criticism there. Sounds like you're just grasping for straws here.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

I dont see how its grasping for straws. Im saying an amazing script can make a poor director look good. A good example off the top of my head would be the second harry potter movie. the script makes a hack like Chris Columbus look good.

Another example is red dragon, its a bret ratner film with an amazing script that also makes him look good.

as far as comics go penciling and inking are 2 different arts, but if one is strong or weak then the other one will definately be affected.

Also, i presented my points, and its my opinion, no need to start a flame war. Im glad you like spielberg, so do i. Im just saying his earlier movies are far superior to his latest ones. I dont think anyone can argue that.

Chill.

 

[Triadkd]

Peter Jackson hands down

 

[Warhammer]

I dont see how its grasping for straws. Im saying an amazing script can make a poor director look good. A good example off the top of my head would be the second harry potter movie. the script makes a hack like Chris Columbus look good.

Another example is red dragon, its a bret ratner film with an amazing script that also makes him look good.

as far as comics go penciling and inking are 2 different arts, but if one is strong or weak then the other one will definately be affected.

Also, i presented my points, and its my opinion, no need to start a flame war. Im glad you like spielberg, so do i. Im just saying his earlier movies are far superior to his latest ones. I dont think anyone can argue that.

Chill.

Perhaps, but I fail to see how that makes him overrated.
If anything, his past works alone makes him worthy of his praise. The recent movies are very good (not his ultimate best, but always 3/4 star films).

Overrated directors are directors who only had one or two hits, while the others are crap, and still receive very high praise based on those one or two hits.

 

[Matt]

Bryan Singer, but I'm not afraid to admit it.

 

[Warhammer]

Peter Jackson hands down

I agree.
Perfect example of overrated director.
He made one of the best trilogies of all-time, but people overrate him as a god-like director.
Once he stays in the game long enough and gives us more masterpieces, he'll be worthy of the full praise, IMO.

 

[Fran]

M Night Shyamalan. Big time.

 

[Fenrir]

I dont see how its grasping for straws. Im saying an amazing script can make a poor director look good. A good example off the top of my head would be the second harry potter movie. the script makes a hack like Chris Columbus look good.

And you don't need to be a great writer to be a great director. Just look at Alfred Hitchcock.

Another example is red dragon, its a bret ratner film with an amazing script that also makes him look good.

So here you are slamming Spielberg as overrated yet have no problem whatsoever saying how a mediocre film like Red Dragon making Ratner "look good"? Riiiiiight...

as far as comics go penciling and inking are 2 different arts, but if one is strong or weak then the other one will definately be affected.

But penciling and inking are both part of the craft of illustration, and consequently have nothing to do with the quality of the writing. In the same way, one can be excellent at writing scripts but may have absolutely no idea on how to turn it into big-screen magic. That's what great directors do and that's what they are praised for - guiding the different talents actors, writers and other assorted filmmaking crews towards a singular vision to create a cinematic masterpiece.

Also, i presented my points, and its my opinion, no need to start a flame war. Im glad you like spielberg, so do i. Im just saying his earlier movies are far superior to his latest ones. I dont think anyone can argue that.

Actually in my opinion, Munich is his best movie to date. I know all the Indy junkies, Saving Private Ryan patriots and Schindler's List zionists will eat me raw for saying that, but it simply can't be argued that Munich is the most un-sentimental film Spielberg has ever made, and one of the most shining highlights of his already gleaming portfolio.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

Perhaps, but I fail to see how that makes him overrated.
If anything, his past works alone makes him worthy of his praise. The recent movies are very good (not his ultimate best, but always 3/4 star films).

Overrated directors are directors who only had one or two hits, while the others are crap, and still receive very high praise based on those one or two hits.

Yah...over rated isnt the right phrase to describe him alot of his early movies are among my favourites and i desperately want him to make another revolutionary classic. When it said over rated directors that you are afraid to admit to, i just thought id bring him up to see who agreed with me...i didnt really word my first post right though, i made it seem like i didnt like Speilberg.


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i disagree with Singer being over rated because hes really only had one movie that wasnt generally well liked and that would be Superman.

other over-rated directors:
Alfonso Cauron...well not really, hes very talented and i can see that in his movies. I just always have a hard time falling in love with his movies. I dono why.

Tarantino is a big one.

George Lucas, he will be ultimately remembered for 2 things, star wars, and his contributions to special effects. He didnt even direct the best star wars has to offer though.

Ron Howard has proved that he suffers from occasional Flukeitis (hes inconsistent in delivering quality)

I've gotta disagree about Peter Jackson though, hes proved with 4 movies now that hes got talent.

 

[Fenrir]

Alfonso Cauron...well not really, hes very talented and i can see that in his movies. I just always have a hard time falling in love with his movies. I dono why.

Funny you say that because the only film of his that I watched before was The Prisoner of Azkaban (which I thought was fairly good). And then I saw Children of Men yesterday. My jaw was on the floor. In my many years of action and war film experiences, never and I mean not even once did I have the kind of reactions to gunfire like I did watching Children of Men. It's a work of sheer genius.

 

[Catman]

Michael Mann. I just don't see what the hype is all about.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

And you don't need to be a great writer to be a great director. Just look at Alfred Hitchcock.

ok...i just said Spielbergs success has a lot to do with the excellent scripts he directs.

So here you are slamming Spielberg as overrated yet have no problem whatsoever saying how a mediocre film like Red Dragon making Ratner "look good"? Riiiiiight....

I think this is a misunderstanding, I think Ratner is a hack. But his best film to date is easily red dragon. Yet it was not his directing skills that made this film, it was the script and the actors. I was not comparing him to Speilberg, i was just using him as an example of writing that can make a director look good. Which is not insulting Speilbergs skills...once again its only saying that the quality of his films is partly due to the writing.

But penciling and inking are both part of the craft of illustration, and consequently have nothing to do with the quality of the writing. In the same way, one can be excellent at writing scripts but may have absolutely no idea on how to turn it into big-screen magic. That's what great directors do and that's what they are praised for - guiding the different talents actors, writers and other assorted filmmaking crews towards a singular vision to create a cinematic masterpiece. .

It takes a writer and a director to make a movie. It takes an inker and a penciller to create a panel. Once again a misunderstanding. I was comparing how directing is affected by writing and vice versa, as is pencilling versus inking. Im not comparing the crafts, only the fact that they both need each other to be successful.

Actually in my opinion, Munich is his best movie to date. I know all the Indy junkies, Saving Private Ryan patriots and Schindler's List zionists will eat me raw for saying that, but it simply can't be argued that Munich is the most un-sentimental film Spielberg has ever made, and one of the most shining highlights of his already gleaming portfolio.

Your not the only person who thinks that. Munich is a great film. My favourite has to be Schindlers list.

This argument isnt really over anything anymore

 

[Fenrir]

Michael Mann. I just don't see what the hype is all about.

Heat? The Insider? Collateral? Dude...

 

[BeserkerHilf]

Kubrick. yea, I said it.

 

[Secret_Riddle]

Funny you say that because the only film of his that I watched before was The Prisoner of Azkaban (which I thought was fairly good). And then I saw Children of Men yesterday. My jaw was on the floor. In my many years of action and war film experiences, never and I mean not even once did I have the kind of reactions to gunfire like I did watching Children of Men. It's a work of sheer genius.

Children of Men is easily his best film, the things i loved about the gun fights in particular is that they werent intercut with other scenes and they were all filmed like a documentry, it really made it feel real.

Potter 3 was good, and the little princess was alright, (nothing amazing) which makes me wonder if Children of Men is a bit of a fluke on his part.