Premiere

[totalpackage59]

Couple of days ago they were in Japan

 

[Vartha]

Is there a scan of the premire ticket yet?

 

[FlameHead]

Man, don't remind me of the permiere ticket. Grrr.

I can't believe it was 2 weeks ago... crazy.

 

[Vartha]

Sorry Bud!
I can't believe it's been that long myself! Mark must be pooped doing all this running around.

 

[CAH]

Yeah, I'd like to talk to MSJ again soon...AND HE BETTER RETURN MY PMs!!!!!!!!!!





































t: Just kidding MSJ....

CAH

 

[zanos]

The thing is, I never expected this movie to be as good as it even is now as a fun as hell throwback to westerns and pulp comics because I have absolutely no expectatioins for ghost rider, a hero I always saw as a few steps down from the better marvel characters. It was the same with sin city. I never cared for frank millers sin city until seeing how cool his stuff was in that film. So I don't get why many are uptight over this flick... since I doubt most really have ever even touched a gr comic. Either that or all they saw was the badly edited bootleg version.

It's not a throwback to anything but cheaply made superhero films. Aside from the special effects what is the difference between this film and films like Captain America, FF (1994), Punisher, JLA which are almost universally ridiculed for the same problems like horrible acting, non existant plot, awful direction/editing, etc. Although I liked Ghost Rider in the few comics I've read with him in it I was never a fan but I can understand how a real fan would feel if they butchered my favorite character. Heck it's being done in every marvel and dc film as we speak.

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ The characters are not being butchered. The studios realize presenting the characters as a purist fanboys wetdream would turn off 99% of the audience which does NOT really care so much about comics to the extent of complaining about hair color, a villains origin being changed, or how big a The Thing's brow is.

 

[zanos]

^ The characters are not being butchered. The studios realize presenting the characters as a purist fanboys wetdream would turn off 99% of the audience which does NOT really care so much about comics to the extent of complaining about hair color, a villains origin being changed, or how big a The Thing's brow is.

Yes because the studios really know what the public wants. Has it occurred to you that maybe the reason why these characters have endured for so long is because of how they were written in the first place? Maybe changing that very aspect of them is why some don't do as well as they're supposed to or have no lasting impact with the public. To MSJ's credit he didn't alter too much to the Ghost Rider character from what I hear. He just made an awful film.

 

[FlameHead]

Simply, what works on page does not always work on film. People always forget that.

 

[Canadian Rider]

This character has been rewritten five times. What makes him "endure" is the flaming skull and the kick @$$ bike.

Jezzz. I thought the haters would have tired out by now and moved on to something / somewhere else so we could get back to talking about the things in the film we liked and what about the character was interesting ...

 

[Advanced Dark]

Yes because the studios really know what the public wants. Has it occurred to you that maybe the reason why these characters have endured for so long is because of how they were written in the first place? Maybe changing that very aspect of them is why some don't do as well as they're supposed to or have no lasting impact with the public. To MSJ's credit he didn't alter too much to the Ghost Rider character from what I hear. He just made an awful film.

Obviously the changes have worked because the films have done better than expected. MSJ did not make an awful film. MSJ made a film that some people thought was awful, some people thought was average, some people liked alot, and some people loved. It we judge by the polls on this hyper critical board most people enjoyed it or thought it was better than average. If we judge by the box office it did better than most expected, if we judge by the critics then we honestly have no brain. People like different films for different reasons. To me I can't understand why anyone likes the King Kong movie in it's entirety let alone people calling it a masterpiece. To me it was crap. However...I understand people out there love it. Do I get it? No. Do I go to King Kong message boards to contantly talk about how bad it was. Nope. I move on to things I like.

 

[crazy sock]

well i dont know about anyone else here who didnt like the move, but I keep coming here n usually saying how much i didnt like the movie b/c i love the comics when i was a lil kid and still do now. its not like im someone who doesnt read or like GR comics and hated the movie n decided to come here to constantly bash it. i do it cause i care about how the movie was (in my opinion and others) handled the way it was, which is to say it was handled poorly. im not here to bash the movie anymore, but i will say something once in a while, whether its a response agreeing with someone or disagreeing, depending on what it is.

then there are posts where im saying Why it is i keep coming back, and again which is b/c i care. you wont find me posting how much i disliked any of the other movies for whatever reasons b/c i dont care that much about them as i do with GR. that's all i have to say as to why Im still here.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Could you repeat that?

 

[crazy sock]

are you serious or joking? i cant tell b/c i dont know if you actually dont understand what it is im saying or yer just being funny because ive posted a similar thing before in a diff thread.

 

[Advanced Dark]

are you serious or joking? i cant tell b/c i dont know if you actually dont understand what it is im saying or yer just being funny because ive posted a similar thing before in a diff thread.

I'm not gonna tell ya.

 

[crazy sock]

oke doke.