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Prequel to 'The Thing'

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I'm simply going by what articles have said and seeing the trailer, which was like watching the old film in 2 minute form.
So these article writers have seen the movie? And a two minute clip of a movie intended to recreate the appearance of the first film all mean it's a remake?

They put effort into this to make it resemble the era of the first film. Should they have modernized it and done away with the technology and limitations of the time period to make it stand out? Until we've seen the movie we can't say we know it is a remake or not.
 
So these article writers have seen the movie? And a two minute clip of a movie intended to recreate the appearance of the first film all mean it's a remake?

They put effort into this to make it resemble the era of the first film. Should they have modernized it and done away with the technology and limitations of the time period to make it stand out? Until we've seen the movie we can't say we know it is a remake or not.

Well it certainly looks like one.
 
That is close to the point. It's meant to recreate the feeling, not the movie.
 
New interview with Edgerton over on Collider about The Thing...

Because this is a prelude to a film that many people do really love, did you have any hesitation about signing on for it?


EDGERTON: Yeah, I’m pretty skeptical about Hollywood and its fascination with the sequel and the franchise. It’s a zone we seem to be in, at the moment. It’s definitely a slightly nerve-wracking thing to get involved with. I don’t think I would have done it, if it was a remake because I personally believe that if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. But, the whole reason these guys had for doing a prequel was pretty genius, when you look at the Carpenter movie. It’s like it was served up on a plate by Carpenter, back in ‘82, with this whole mystery of what happened at the Norwegian camp. What (director) Matthijs [van Heijningen Jr.] and Universal did was open up a lovely chapter that you wish had been told.

This character is mysterious, in the sense that you don’t really know too much about where he came from and how he got to this point. Did you do anything to develop your own backstory for him, and was that mystery part of the appeal in playing him?


EDGERTON: I think that was part of the nod to that era of filmmaking. Sometimes you don’t need copious amounts of exposition or backstory about a character. Sometimes they just are, and they are the sum total of their actions. All that stuff, for me, becomes a matter of private contemplation and private thought. What an audience decides about where certain characters come from is really up to them.


How was it for you, as an actor, to be able to have a combination of practical and CG effects? How does that help you, as far as your reactions go?


EDGERTON: I find that stuff all really tricky. I don’t know how I would do, if I was on a movie that was entirely green screen and entirely CGI effects. It requires a really, really incredible imagination, which I’m not sure that I’m really equipped for. We had a nice combination of practical and visual effects. Quite often on set, we would have certain practical elements of the alien to play with. It would have been a lot harder for me, if we didn’t have that. There were a couple of days that were being scared of a tennis ball on a stick acting moments, and I found that all pretty funny. I would say to Matthijs, “I love playing tennis. How am I going to be frightened of a tennis ball?” But, that’s the world of filmmaking that we live in. It’s just another one of those skills that an actor needs.

http://collider.com/joel-edgerton-the-thing-great-gatsby-osama-bin-laden-movie-interview/116905/
 
Re: red band trailer. Damn, that splitfaced thing looks great, the upside down crawl is pretty cool, too. The "stinger" thing isn't too shabby either.

Did we just see the end of the movie at 0:58? :awesome:
if yo're talking about the dog...
it does not happen in the very end, just a little time before the end and before the final confrontations with the thing. Have you read the leaked script by any chance?
 
Here's a very great and insightful interview w/ Jonathan Lloyd Walker on The Thing and sort of what to expect. Thankfully, it doesn't really spoil anything. And he also talks about a few other things near the end.

Also, he flat out says that it's a prequel, not a remake disguised as a prequel, just to clear that up.

http://ballnroll.com/exclusiveaccess?post=240
BALLnROLL: Okay, so-- The Thing prequel. This is exciting! Tell me about it.

Jonathan Lloyd Walker: Our film is a prequel to the John Carpenter film from 1982. All of the events of the film take place several days before the events in that movie, and obviously at the Norwegian base where the Norwegian crew are the first to find the crashed alien vessel and the frozen corpse in the snow outside. They call in some help to try and figure out what to do with this amazing find, only to have things obviously go horribly wrong and the creature to break loose and create havoc.

Tell me about your character in the film.

I play Colin. Colin is the British radio operator that's stationed at the Norwegian base. He's very edgy, a kind of keeps-to-himself kind of character. He doesn't really trust people. He's a loner, and obviously when things start to go horribly wrong in the base, it gives him even more reason to be withdrawn and very isolated from everybody else.

Does the movie follow the same plot as the John Carpenter film or are there some surprises?

There're definitely surprises. What you can't get away from is the fact that, obviously, we're dealing with the same type of creature or entity that can absorb and take over the look and the identity of its victims, and that obviously breeds distrust and panic amongst those that realize what's going on.

Those commonalities will obviously exist, but commonalities will exist between any two films of a series. Look at the Terminator films. It's always going to be people running from a Terminator.

But in this case it's definitely got some interesting twists. You're going to see the creature in different ways than you've seen it manifest before. Obviously, there's the added element of the language barrier, with a number of these Norwegians whom speak English, and others don't--That adds an extra layer of mistrust and jeopardy because you've got situations where some of the English-speaking characters are stuck in a room with people speaking Norwegian to each other and obviously have no idea whether they're plotting against them or what's their agendas are. So it is a different film. It's not a remake.

So that adds a new layer of suspense.

I think so. The whole Norwegian aspect definitely brings it into a different arena, and I think it's got some very different beats to it, and obviously some other things that will probably be familiar to those who are familiar with the Carpenter film, but it's its own movie.

What are the special effects like? Are they similar to the air bladder technology of the Carpenter film or is it more CGI?

On set, we had a number of puppeteers and animatronics people, who were working with us, creating actual live effects on-stage, so there was definitely stuff there that we had to work with. We were always with the knowledge that some of it would be augmented with CGI, or there would be some use of CGI in the movie; it wasn't going to be exclusively practical effects.

But there are a number of practical effects in the film, and some of them are really, really fantastic. I think there was probably a perception that if you were going to do a prequel to Carpenter's film, then it would have to be exactly the same, in terms of how you approach the effects, and to a certain extent we did. Obviously, it's a film from thirty years ago, but there are some things we can use in a modern day context to add a different dimension or a different layer to things. Certainly, there's a blend of both in the film.

Had you done a lot of effects work before or is this the most effects in a film you've worked on?

I've worked on lots of films with a lot of effects, and some of it has been heavily CGI-work, where I've been working exclusively against a green screen, and some of it has been very practical.

To give you two examples, obviously, for practical works, I worked with George Romero on Land of the Dead and obviously his make-up effects person, Greg Nicotero, who is now doing The Walking Dead for AMC. So that was an experience where when you're being chased by zombies, you're really being chased by zombies.

So that was one end of the spectrum, and the other end of the spectrum would be the sci-fi stuff I've done, like Stargate, where you've got some practical sets, but very often you're in front of a green screen next to a tennis ball on a string, and having to imagine what's supposed to be there when it's not really there. So I've had a wide range of experiences with different types of effects.

Do you think there would be a problem that some of the audience knows the ending of the film, because it would be the beginning of Carpenter's film?

Did people go to Apollo 13 knowing that they already know the history of that event? Did they go to see the film Glory, knowing how the Civil War turned out? If you look at prequels, if you look at a film like Flags of Our Fathers, which was a prequel to Iwo Jima, the Clint Eastwood movie, we've already seen the other movie, we know that the Americans win the fight, so why would we be interested in watching what happens to the Japanese?

People go to films because they're compelling and interesting stories, and there are interesting characters going through that, even though the conclusion is somewhat forgone. It's still a ride to go on and an interesting environment to watch people struggle through.

And further to that I would say, if you go to any horror films, I don't think anyone lines up to see Saw--one of the, what are they now, Saw 6? 7?--I don't think anybody there has any misconceptions that the people in that film are largely going to be killed. It's pretty much given because they've got a frame of reference from the other films, so I think it's a bit of a weak argument if people say, "I don't want to see the film because I know how it's going to end."

Well, you may have a general sense of it, but you may not know how each of the characters are going to manifest through the film, and what is going to happen to them.

Would you say your character in The Thing is a villainous character or more ambiguous?

I don't really think there are villains in the film per se, beyond the creature--the creature is obviously the biggest threat or antagonist in the movie. There are people with different agendas, and there are certainly people who are maybe a bit more selfish than others. My character is really so caught up in his own little world, and keeping to himself to a certain extent. I wouldn't really portray him as a villain. He's a victim, as are most of the people in the film.

What was the greatest challenge for you in terms of performing in the film?

It's two-fold, I think. On a more ideological basis, it's the idea that I am a huge fan of the Carpenter version of the movie, and we wanted to make sure we did that justice and didn't do anything in any way that was derivative, or cheapened his legacy. So there was that.

And I think the other biggest challenge for me at the end of the day was my character, because he's so much of a loner, and he keeps largely to himself. A lot of my work in the film is being in scenes and not necessarily telling people what I think or expressing my opinion, for fear of sharing too much information, so I have a lot of brooding, standing amongst the others, speculating and not saying what's on my mind, so that was a very internal process, to try and find all of that inner monologue to play for myself, to keep myself engaged in all the scenes.

Trying to say things without saying things?

Essentially, yeah, he's that type of character, very much in contrast to Mary Elizabeth Winstead's character, who is the mouthpiece in the film in terms of always being the one who speculates as to what might be going on and tries to initiate some type of plan, and my characters is very much out for himself and trying to figure out how to best preserve himself, so he's not interested in sharing anything with other people. He just wants to keep himself alive.

What was it like working with Mary Elizabeth Winstead?

She's an absolutely lovely woman, and a very good performer, and I think a good anchor for this film. I'm very dismayed sometimes when I go online and read some of the stuff they're throwing around on some of the forums for this film, that people slight her for being a woman in a film that they think should be all men.

There's no such thing as a canon when it comes to this, because in Carpenter's original draft of the thing, he had a female character, but they were having trouble casting her, so they made the character male. The book, the whole universe that this was based on, had female characters and so did the Howard Hawks film. So I don't think it's a problem having a female lead. She does a really, really incredible job. She's very compelling to watch. She's not, in any way, shape or form, a lightweight actor--she's got a depth and a heft to her that I think people who go and give themselves over to the film will see that. She's a solid actor.

A few non-Thing related questions. What would you say your sense of fashion is like?

When I'm dressed up, I'm definitely like the elegance and the simplicity of some of the Prada men's clothing line, particularly with suits and things. I like the trim nature of some of their suits.

In casual life, I tend to be very drawn to some of the clothing line from places like H&M. Somewhat European, maybe a little more stylized, but comfortable and accessible type of clothing. I generally don't like to be fussy about the clothes I like to wear, but I do like clothes that are a little bit tailored. Whenever I can wear suits, I try to wear suits. It feels good to be in a suit.

Do you have a favourite designer?

At the end of the day, I still do have a preference for Armani suits. I must say, they are very, very nice. So that stuff, for sure. Giorgio Armani, I do like. And beyond that, I would be kind of stuck to nail it down to just one particular style, one particular designer.

What's in store for you in the future? What are some exciting things readers should know about?

Well, I'm currently in pre-production on a television series, a genre television series, for GK films in Los Angeles and Shaw Media in Canada--A project called Out of Time, which is essentially a show about a cop from the future, who chases a bunch of villainous criminals from the year 2077 back to present day. They travel back to escape a death sentence in their time, and it's her job to track them down and bring them back to justice. We're in pre-production now, and they're taking it to MIP to line it up with a broadcaster in the States and internationally, and it will be in production probably in November-ish and coming out on television next late-Spring, early Summer.
 
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Cool interview with Walker, even if his character sounds a little 'Windows'-ish. I like the [blackout]constant language barrier[/blackout] being an impedement, and a very human way to increase the alien paranoia.

[blackout]"Maybe we're at war with Norway."[/blackout] :hehe:



if yo're talking about the dog...
it does not happen in the very end, just a little time before the end and before the final confrontations with the thing. Have you read the leaked script by any chance?

Ah, okay. No, I haven't read it.
 
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This film looks like a solid, good remake. It looks like it keeps pretty close to the original film...possibly. Anyway, I really liked the original, so i'll probably check this out.
 
Couple of new pics too...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0905372/mediaindex

Also, if you live in LA, the premiere info got posted...

WHAT: The world premiere of the thriller THE THING
WHO: THE THING director Matthijs van Heijningen; cast members Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, Ulrich Thomsen, Kim Bubbs, Jonathan Lloyd Walker; writer Eric Heisserer; producers Marc Abraham, Eric Newman; executive producers J. Miles Dale, David Foster, Lawrence Turman, Gabrielle Neimand
WHERE: Universal Studios Hollywood
AMC CityWalk Stadium 19
Universal City, CA
WHEN: Monday, October 10, 2011
5:30 PM– Press Call Time
6:30 PM– Celebrity Arrivals
7:30 PM– Screening Begins
 
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This film looks like a solid, good remake. It looks like it keeps pretty close to the original film...possibly. Anyway, I really liked the original, so i'll probably check this out.


Geez, it's a PREQUEL.

Also, :csad: I have to wait weeks before seeing movie now. :cmad: the Carmike theater won't re-open til November cause of damage by Hurricane Irene!!!

So Imma see it on base theater for 2 bucks.

I look forward to your spoiler reviews...
 
2nd TV spot:

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& soundtrack preview got posted.

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2nd TV spot:

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& soundtrack preview got posted.

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Loved that TV spot. It didn't give everything away and still managed to give a feel for the movie.

I'm not too sure about the soundtrack, though. The soundtrack itself sounds fantastic; it just doesn't sound like what I would imagine the soundtrack for this film to sound like.

I loved the minimalistic approach the original film's soundtrack took, in that there was very little to none at all, save for the main theme and a few other small bits. A soundtrack is good to help dictate certain emotions you are supposed to feel in a film. However, The Thing by itself was so good that it didn't even need it. In fact, some of my favorite parts of the original film didn't even contain any score, mainly because the lack thereof and the performances from the actors gave it that sense of isolation and distrust.

That being said, from what I have heard and read about this film, I'm definitely looking forward to seeing this on opening day. True horror has been sorely lacking in theaters, and I hope this film provides that.
 
I loved the minimalistic approach the original film's soundtrack took, in that there was very little to none at all, save for the main theme and a few other small bits. A soundtrack is good to help dictate certain emotions you are supposed to feel in a film. However, The Thing by itself was so good that it didn't even need it. In fact, some of my favorite parts of the original film didn't even contain any score, mainly because the lack thereof and the performances from the actors gave it that sense of isolation and distrust.

That being said, from what I have heard and read about this film, I'm definitely looking forward to seeing this on opening day. True horror has been sorely lacking in theaters, and I hope this film provides that.

Mmhm. I agree.

& cast, crew, and production notes got added to the site in pdf format.

http://www.thethingmovie.net/main.html#/theFilm
 
I absolutely adore John Carpenter's The Thing, which is a rare thing since I'm not a horror movie fan by a long shot. Yes, there were some pretty impressive 80's gore effects but the biggest impact this movie had on me was the psychological aspect of it in that you were always left questioning who was genuine and who had been consumed by the Thing. I don't know but the banner up top has me persuaded that maybe I'll want to watch this movie. Hopefully they don't resort to excessive violence, saving the gore where it needs to be showcased, instead focusing on the superb psychological atmosphere of the 1982 remake.
 
That we know of. You never know....

Also, the score is interesting. The first 50 seconds are for sure Ennios' theme.

Then I hear some Jerry Goldsmith Alien, and the rest sounds like Marco. (the composer)
 
I saw a screening for the film tonight and it is definitely without a doubt a PREQUEL:

1) It ends where John Carpenter's film begins.
2) None of the plot points are the same - at all.
3) We see some of the left over remnants in action: the ax is left behind, the gasoline canisters, the broken block of ice -- what we see in this film leads into the base investigation in Carpenter's.

For those wondering about the music, unfortunately the main theme isn't that present till the very end.

As for the quality of the film? I would say 6/10. Bias it would be 7/10. 6/10 because it just wasn't that scary, it doesn't measure up to the original - no sense of building dread, just a lot more creature effects (which were good) and action. Basically it took the wrong elements of the original. 7/10 because from a fan's point of view, it is interesting - but just from a "prequel comic" or "prequel novel" etc. type approach in "oh - that's what led into this..." type thing. Other than that, as a fan of the original, it just doesn't measure up.

Basically if you're a fan - see it, it'll still be entertaining in that you'll see what leads into Carpenter's film. Other than that though it unfortunately doesn't have a lot more going for it. As said, it kept the wrong elements and completely ditched the important one.
 
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