Punisher Movie website gets a massive overhaul!

[Microchip]

Remember what Jigsaw's character is like though. I know you've got a lot of Punisher knowledge, so you KNOW that the Jigsaw character itself is messed up, dark, but sometimes a bit hammy. I still have faith he'll do a good job without making the character Jones two-face lame.

 

[S. Grundy]

i love the part with jigsaw and the lil girl and the part where he stabs the dude in the neck. it is possible to do over-the-top without hamming it up. jigsaw is a straight up psycho and that's exactly how west is playing him.

And considering the director, I don't think he's done it. I think he is hamming it up. Just because he's playing a psychopath doesn't mean he needs to make it into a caricature.

 

[claydogg]

Nice work Micro.

 

[Microchip]

And considering the director, I don't think he's done it. I think he is hamming it up. Just because he's playing a psychopath doesn't mean he needs to make it into a caricature.

Alright alright, lets just leave it at that and wait until December 5th. I think we can all concede he's probably walking a thin line between hammy and over-the-top psychopathy.

I think you're right on one hand that Lexi isn't the amazing director that can get a beautiful performance out of ANYONE, but on the other hand West probably knows that a Marvel character's movie is going to get attention, and as the main villain he's going to try to do the best performance he can to get noticed. He won't take the role as a joke and half-ass it, he's got a reputation to build as a TV/movie star looking to break out. I bet he'll do a good job, but I can tell where you're coming from saying it could be lame.

Nice work Micro.

Better work by the website team though! Pretty amazing job they did, I must say. I WAS hoping for some TDK-style secrets, but hey.

 

[S. Grundy]

One thing I remember reading a while back was Alexander really didn't work with the actor's on Hooligans (don't ask where I don't recall). If that's the case here West's performance is either him just saying **** it, and being ridiculous on purpose or Alexander told him "It's a COMIC BOOOOK!"

 

[Brendan]

Well a director's number one job is to direct the actors. That's why there is such a thing as a DP, so there's someone to help out with the technical side of things so the director doesn't feel too burdened by everything.

 

[Microchip]

If that's the case here West's performance is either him just saying **** it, and being ridiculous on purpose or Alexander told him "It's a COMIC BOOOOK!"

But why would he do that? There's nothing to gain. All he does is make himself look like he can't act, and that's probably not something a guy in his position wants casting directors to think.

I think that "It's a comic book!" thing was taken a bit out of context. All she was doing is saying that this is going to be a high-velocity, violent action movie, not a subtle, deep crime drama.

 

[S. Grundy]

But why would he do that? There's nothing to gain. All he does is make himself look like he can't act, and that's probably not something a guy in his position wants casting directors to think.

I think that "It's a comic book!" thing was taken a bit out of context. All she was doing is saying that this is going to be a high-velocity, violent action movie, not a subtle, deep crime drama.

I was saying if the case was she didn't bother working with the actors. He would be left to his own devices, maybe he would think it was a good idea to play it like he did.

And the crime drama thing, she said the Punisher can't work as one. And that is one of the reason she was the wrong choice.

 

[Microchip]

Apparently they didn't want to make a crime drama. Maybe they would have if they'd already seen TDK. But as it is, they didn't, so they don't need to hire someone who thinks Punisher would make a good crime drama. She's read the MAX line of comics, probably some of the other ones, so she's familiar with who the character is. The fact that she thinks he wouldn't work in a crime drama won't hurt him in an action flick.

 

[S. Grundy]

I think it was just a ******ed thing to say, because the MAX book is basically a violent crime drama. Now something like The Ultimates is written like a wide screen action blockbuster, the Punisher MAX book isn't. And despite Soap, Micro and Jigsaw (who is for all intents and purposes basically Nicky Cavella) being in the movie all that's been said is it's MAX, MAX, MAX.

 

[Rampage]

New PUNISHER: WAR ZONE clip preceded by a video message from director Lexi Alexander!

 

[citizenpain]

that clip is pretty sweet. i'm diggin the action and the overall look of it all.

 

[dude stannis]

Arnold Schwarzengger got a sex change?

 

[Microchip]

Lol, Punisher totally gets owned by that guy behind the door. I guess that's why he wears body armor. I wonder what's going on in that hotel, I'm assuming its the Bradstreet hotel you see Jigsaw outside of. The action looks pretty frantic, I think I like it. It got better for me after a few watches.

 

[S. Grundy]

Jigsaw set up the hotel as his base of operations and that clip is the final assault. It's competent enough, but the music doesn't do much for me.

 

[Rukus]

Yeah not a bad clip, Frank blowing up those thugs at the end there was pretty cool.

 

[Microchip]

Jigsaw set up the hotel as his base of operations and that clip is the final assault. It's competent enough, but the music doesn't do much for me.

Shhhh!!!! Ok, I guess this IS the spoilers forum. But I think all of us that HAVEN'T read the script are only in here because there's NO action in the non-spoilers one. I agree, the music is fairly weak, but at least it's a score and not a nu-metal song, right?

 

[jokerface89]

That was a cool little clip to show.Even if the movie is not much better then the 04version at least it will have better action scenes from the looks of it.

 

[S. Grundy]

That was a cool little clip to show.Even if the movie is not much better then the 04version at least it will have better action scenes from the looks of it.

I have to disagree with that, I was watching the clip again and it to me doesn't seem like Frank Castle. It's like he's just aimlessly shooting and hoping to hit someone. This is not a Frank Castle that uses his military background.

Shhhh!!!! Ok, I guess this IS the spoilers forum. But I think all of us that HAVEN'T read the script are only in here because there's NO action in the non-spoilers one. I agree, the music is fairly weak, but at least it's a score and not a nu-metal song, right?

Not really a spoiler, you'd be a fool not think that there wasn't going to be a final assault in the film.

 

[Kable24]

The clip isn't bad. A couple of complaints. the bad cgi explosion from the grenade launcher and the score doesn't grab me. The action seems decent enough though.

 

[Microchip]

Not really a spoiler, you'd be a fool not think that there wasn't going to be a final assault in the film.

Well duh, but I don't know where it's going to be/what the conditions are. That'd be like talking about the Dark Knight and going "yeah, it ends with a standoff between Batman, Gordon and Two-Face. Well... you'd be a fool not to think there's not some big last fight between them!"

I have to disagree with that, I was watching the clip again and it to me doesn't seem like Frank Castle. It's like he's just aimlessly shooting and hoping to hit someone. This is not a Frank Castle that uses his military background.

Oh, he uses supressing fire all the time, and by the way he was hitting the targets in this clip, he obviously wasn't mindlessly shooting. The way he effortlessly switched between weapons made him seem really cold and calculating.

The clip isn't bad. A couple of complaints. the bad cgi explosion from the grenade launcher and the score doesn't grab me. The action seems decent enough though.

I agree. The CGI explosion is balanced out by the guy flying through the window for me though, that feels a lot more authentic. The music is definately on the weaker side.

 

[S. Grundy]

The clip isn't bad. A couple of complaints. the bad cgi explosion from the grenade launcher and the score doesn't grab me. The action seems decent enough though.

If Hensleigh was able to do a movie with only CG shot in the whole thing, I don't see why they couldn't with this. I'm sure we'll see plenty of CG blood and CG explosions in the thing.

Oh, he uses supressing fire all the time, and by the way he was hitting the targets in this clip, he obviously wasn't mindlessly shooting. The way he effortlessly switched between weapons made him seem really cold and calculating.

From a tactical standpoint, all of his actions seem off. To me at least.

 

[Microchip]

The grenade launcher part seemed a sound tactical move. I guess it's hard to mow down dozens of enemies in a tactical fashion. They probably had to (a)show him as a tactical mastermind and go through maybe 8-9 enemies or (b)have him as a ruthless killing machine and destroy a hundred.

 

[S. Grundy]

The grenade launcher part seemed a sound tactical move. I guess it's hard to mow down dozens of enemies in a tactical fashion. They probably had to (a)show him as a tactical mastermind and go through maybe 8-9 enemies or (b)have him as a ruthless killing machine and destroy a hundred.

That's not what I was talking about, it was more the walking through a door and getting shot in the back. And the sliding on his knees leaving himself wide open, and needlessly switching to pistols (automatic or not).

 

[jokerface89]

Well even frank does not always come out of a gun fight a 100 percent okay plus he might of lefted himself open since he does got body armor to protect himself