BvS questions on BvS (spoilers)

Probably not, though she may have figured it out after their exchange, what with hacking into servers and trading e-mails about hundred-year-old photographs right before punching cave trolls. That half-mask isn't nearly as great disguise as he thinks it is.

Which is why you could see Affleck's stunt actor clearly in every scene he was in.

 

I'm asking because I didn't get that look exchange between her and him in the library. She did know at that point or it was love from the first sight?

 

It was more a femme fatale thing; mysterious, intriguing, inviting, alluring, dangerous, intelligent.

 

Bruce - understandable. Why was she looking at Bruce with such a curiosity?

 

Well, I don't know what parties you frequent, but the ones I do don't usually have people hacking into the host's computer network.

 

It was before Bruce did anything.

 

Oh you mean during the Lex speech. I didn't even remember that bit. I imagine it was just a trick to focus on the character as someone who stands out from the crowd of extras.

 

Yeah, probably. Or maybe a hint on a possible future romance. I liked how she tipped his bow-tie in the sword scene.

 

If doomsday had killed Superman and Doomsday had lived, wouldnt he have went on a global rampage and destroyed the world? Isnt this the very thing Luthor was concerned Superman could do. for a genius, creating doomsday and not thinking about the various consequences was a bit of a daft move. This is the only gripe I have.

 

I doubt Lex understood fully what he was doing. Or his plan just failed. There's that unexplained bit with his blood, maybe he expected to control the beast.

Another thing - he could control the best, but he was absolutely sure Superman wouldn't let DD to touch Lex. So he didn't even bother avoiding him. As expected, Superman protected him.

 

No, you're confusing him with comic book Lex. This Lex wasn't concerned Superman would destroy the world, he just wanted to dethrone the modern god. He made Doomsday, because he wanted to create life; like a god.

This Lex, love him or hate him, only exists to play a game. He was designed after TDK's Joker more than he was designed after comic book Lex.

 

Yeah. I get that. But he created 'the devil' to kill a 'god'. Once that God is killed then the devil destroys the earth.

 

Oh yeah, the mad bastard totally thought he could control Doomsday, if he had even thought that far. There's no doubt about that. He was a fruitcake.

 

I think he just knew Superman and Lois were close, it wasn't until he had access to the Kryptonian ship and told it to teach him everything, that he found out Superman and Clark were the same person. Thats why he also referred to him as Kal-El and didn't use his mother against him until then.

 

Yeah, I remember this. During the speech in the beginning when she turns down a drink she stares back at Bruce for some time, and Bruce seems a little "Wow" at her or just intrigued by her at least. I didn't get full-on romance vibe but I think it was more of an instinct thing like something is going on with her. If a woman in a red dress is ever staring at me at a party in a room full of people I'm making sure my wallet is secure and my valet ticket hidden.

I think for some reason she already knew who he was and his secret identity too. How else would she figure out to steal his drive that's hacking the network? And how kind of her to stand in front of the server room for several seconds to wait for him to turn around to let him know that she's the one that took it.

 

I wonder if Lex controlled the wheelchair bomb remotely. Cackling in his little seat sucking on jolly ranchers as he drove away from the Capitol watching live footage waiting for the senator to notice his piss jar before making them go boom.

 

Here's something I was just pondering. Superman dies... the world buries an empty box. Clark Kent dies and they bury his body in Kansas. Now fast forward to JL pt 1 - Superman comes back to life... he's super human and everyone just accepts that he can't die. How do you bring Clark Kent back to life in this scenario?

In the death of Superman comic story, they buried Superman and Clark Kent got the empty box treatment. It made it easy to come up with a reason why he wasn't dead, he was just buried under the metropolis rubble from the Superman/Doomsday fight for months.

How does Clark come back in this universe? Are we done with Clark Kent?

 

I suspect the answer is "Yes, we are done with Clark Kent." The real question is, was this intentional on Snyder's part, or just sloppiness?

 

I believe Lex's thinking was that his blood would form a genetic bond that would allow the beast to at least recognise him as master, or, he thought that maybe Doomsday would have come out as a more intelligent life form that he could control and reason with.
Once Doomsday breaks out it does look like he takes a swing at Lex that Superman stops.

 

I think it's a smart move because in the Universe they created you can't have him doing a 9 to 5 job and actively be a member of the JL. Pretty much the JL have to give up their personal life. I'd only buy Barry as being able to continue some sort of hidden life, but the JL will become way too public to stay hidden in alternative identities.

 

I think it's something to do with what he saw in the water, which makes that Communion scene all the more relevant. We'd seen Superman get turned into a general for Darkseid (we have to assume under mind control), and I'm pretty sure responsible for the deaths of thousands. In Lex's deluded mind, he's the savior of the world, having done what Batman was unable to - that is to kill Superman, and save the thousands who would've died by his hand. That's why Batman was unable to brand him in the end, because he was as deluded as Lex, till he was changed in the last minute.

As for Doomsday, I kinda think Lex meant to have Batman steal that chunk of kryptonite, and I'm fairly certain he kept a portion of it safely tucked away for himself. He might've meant to use it against Doomsday should the beast not be aligned with him (through blood), and only unleash him at the arrival of Darkseid.

 

I think I know the general direction they'll go for Superman's comeback. But I am very interested in how they deal with Clark Kent. Offing that side of the character would be a mistake.

 

Yeah, it was more about his metaphysical obsessions about anti-theism and teleology. Or something.

In the books by comic writer Elliot S! Maggin, the original fallout between former friends Lex and Superman was precisely when Superman saved Lex from an experiment gone wrong, which was where the hair was permanently lost. Lex blamed Superman for that failure, which was an attempt at creating artificial life.

I doubt it is intentional, but it made me smile.

 

Diana is probably crashing the party because she is investigating whether Lex was behind the gathering of physical evidence about her identity, so she is probably wary and "on guard" even while doing the glamorous mingling pretense. She probably noticed Bruce being someone equally alert and with a martial bearing in his movements, as a trained fighter has, and took him in just in case he was security for Lex. When Bruce did his clandestine moves, she indentified him as another person investigating Lex's dealings, thus "the enemy of my enemy..." She may have not known he was Batman at all. Later she probably investigated who Bruce Wayne was, thus how she was able to return the data, and followed the logic when later Batman publicly broke into a Lexcorp facility.

 

Well, my general feeling is that most of the people close to Clark already know he is Superman, so it is no biggie.

Lois surely told the government that his body would be taken care of by his loved ones, and the burial was only for those in the know, mostly.