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[iloveclones]

In regards to the article about marketing towards adults: I have to admit that I've found it ridiculous for a while to be reading these things and noticing the ads in them. Candy, video games, etc. It got me to wondering what you would advertise in "adult marketed" comics. Because I would find it equally as odd to be following the adventures of Spider-Man alongside ads for Buicks and Captain Morgan. The other problem that I have with "adult" comics, is that it always seems to imply an overabundance of swearing, violence, and boobies. I would rather "adult" mean telling a story with a more adult audience in mind rather than gratuitous swearing, violence, and boobies. Other than that, I would like ALL comics to be written with just me in mind. Let kids fend for themselves. They have enough entertainment geared towards them. (Too much, in fact.....Go to your room and do your d*** homework!)
And yeah, I agree, that What If deal is screwed up. Major blunder on Marvel's part. If they were going to do this, why not just release it as a TPB only?

 

[newnoiseimage]

CAPTAIN MORGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and about your adult book comment, i posted about this a while ago, the max line started out with HBO syndrome (nudity for no reason other than you can) but through titles like punisher and Supreme Power have become a legitamite outlet for somewhat tasteful adult books.

 

[Elijya]

In regards to the article about marketing towards adults: I have to admit that I've found it ridiculous for a while to be reading these things and noticing the ads in them. Candy, video games, etc. It got me to wondering what you would advertise in "adult marketed" comics. Because I would find it equally as odd to be following the adventures of Spider-Man alongside ads for Buicks and Captain Morgan.

hehehe. And don't forget the "Tobacco is Whacko if your a Teen" ads, and all the hip trendy clothing lines

And yeah, I agree, that What If deal is screwed up. Major blunder on Marvel's part. If they were going to do this, why not just release it as a TPB only?

that's very risky, there's less profit involved, and if the tpb bombs, it's a bigger loss than if the issues bomb. I don't believe marvel has ever attempted releasing a tpb for something that wasn't originally printed in issues (if they have I simply can't think of one). DC has only done it a few times, with books like I, Papprazzi, Poe, and Orbiter (and I'm probably the only one on this board who has read those, and most of you have probably never heard of them either)

 

[Elijya]

CAPTAIN MORGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and about your adult book comment, i posted about this a while ago, the max line started out with HBO syndrome (nudity for no reason other than you can) but through titles like punisher and Supreme Power have become a legitamite outlet for somewhat tasteful adult books.

yeah, there's no gratuitous nudity in Supreme Power....

 

[iloveclones]

that's very risky, there's less profit involved, and if the tpb bombs, it's a bigger loss than if the issues bomb. I don't believe marvel has ever attempted releasing a tpb for something that wasn't originally printed in issues (if they have I simply can't think of one).

I was really just being sarcastic more than anything else. With how fast they put them out on other things, it seems like they would release the 27 What If's they have planned for that day, and release the TPB 2 weeks later. After reading that article, the only upside to doing this seems to be to "trick" the retailer into buying all of them. Certainly, this is the case at my comic shop. Their pull form has it listed as "What If?" which means that they'll pull all of them for you. I'm sure if you asked, they'd pull just the ones you wanted (they're pretty accommodating). That's really the only benefit I see other than making a big splash for the start of a series (Is that what this is supposed to be or just a bunch of one-shots?).

 

[iloveclones]

yeah, there's no gratuitous nudity in Supreme Power....

The bummer about that was I was letting my nephew read it. (Now, he's probably stealing from my bro and hiding it under his mattress or something )

 

[newnoiseimage]

i dont think it was gratuitous at all, i felt that it fit the character. gratuitous would be having a conversation in a strrip club, even though it doesnt need to be taken in a strip club.

see the difference?

you have an alien not used to our customs, while it was a little much i dont think it was gratuitous.

 

[newnoiseimage]

so i got my stitches out yesterday (lost a couple teeth in my hockey league) and i got a change to catch up on last months comics, not a bad month, there were actually a couple laugh out loud moments, nightcrawler, black widow and gambit were all pleasant surprises...

your thoughts?

 

[arachnidkeeper]

i read nightcrawler i was inpressed with it also i'm gonna start picking it up now

 

[DBM]

When reading Identity Disc

Spoiler

(which pretty much sucked other than the fact Nick Fury was cool enough to let the Vulture help his own daughter0

last night, I got to thinking about the Prison System in the MU.

Two things stand out to me.

1) Considering that villains are constantly "just getting out of prison," the judges in the Marvel Universe must be very lenient when giving out sentences. It seems as if they only serve a very short time and then are let out.

Judge: Mr. Kassidy, you went on a murderous rampage through Manhattan killing hundreds of people, recruit a half dozen other superpowered criminals to help you, spread rage throughout the population and caused nearly 17 billion dollars in property damage. Considering the jury has found you guilty on all counts, I hereby sentence you to 17 days in a minimum security prison. With weak windows. And an escape hatch.

Carnage: **** you fatty. I'll skewer your body, shove my hand up your ass and use you as a hand puppet.

Judge: That's quite enough. Just for that outburst I'll add on 2 weeks of house arrest after you finish your 17 days. You'll have to report daily to a blind, deaf, mute probation officer who cannot walk and must rely entirely on the honor system and your promise that you are not committing any crimes.

2) The actual security at the Marvel Universe prisons must be atrocious.

How many times can the Vulture escape? Really? How tough is it to keep an 80 year old man with a heart condition and cancer locked up. Aparrently it's pretty tough because he keeps escaping.

And I know that several times he has created a temporary flying harness to escape. But what kind of dumbass warden allows a convicted supervillian who is an engineering genius near the advanced electronics needed to create a flying harness.

I swear to god, do they even interview the prison staff? Or do they just go down to the local Soup Kitchen and pick up the first drunken, mumbling, vagrant they can find that fits the uniform and put him in charge.



Just a little rant.

 

[Gambit8370]

Well, they gave Frank the chair for killing an L.M.D. of Nick Fury...

 

[DBM]

Well, they gave Frank the chair for killing an L.M.D. of Nick Fury...

And you see what good that did.

 

[Guyverjay]

Carnage got sent to Ravencroft

 

[DBM]

Carnage got sent to Ravencroft

I know that.

I was just using it as an example.

 

[Guyverjay]

Well it wasn't a very good one

 

[DBM]

Well it wasn't a very good one

Maybe you just couldn't understand it.

 

[Guyverjay]

The Vulture example was a good one

 

[Elijya]

When reading Identity Disc

Spoiler

(which pretty much sucked other than the fact Nick Fury was cool enough to let the Vulture help his own daughter0

last night, I got to thinking about the Prison System in the MU.

Two things stand out to me.

1) Considering that villains are constantly "just getting out of prison," the judges in the Marvel Universe must be very lenient when giving out sentences. It seems as if they only serve a very short time and then are let out.

Judge: Mr. Kassidy, you went on a murderous rampage through Manhattan killing hundreds of people, recruit a half dozen other superpowered criminals to help you, spread rage throughout the population and caused nearly 17 billion dollars in property damage. Considering the jury has found you guilty on all counts, I hereby sentence you to 17 days in a minimum security prison. With weak windows. And an escape hatch.

Carnage: **** you fatty. I'll skewer your body, shove my hand up your ass and use you as a hand puppet.

Judge: That's quite enough. Just for that outburst I'll add on 2 weeks of house arrest after you finish your 17 days. You'll have to report daily to a blind, deaf, mute probation officer who cannot walk and must rely entirely on the honor system and your promise that you are not committing any crimes.

2) The actual security at the Marvel Universe prisons must be atrocious.

How many times can the Vulture escape? Really? How tough is it to keep an 80 year old man with a heart condition and cancer locked up. Aparrently it's pretty tough because he keeps escaping.

And I know that several times he has created a temporary flying harness to escape. But what kind of dumbass warden allows a convicted supervillian who is an engineering genius near the advanced electronics needed to create a flying harness.

I swear to god, do they even interview the prison staff? Or do they just go down to the local Soup Kitchen and pick up the first drunken, mumbling, vagrant they can find that fits the uniform and put him in charge.



Just a little rant.

well, in one of the few occassions where I believe a reason was given for a supervillain being let loose, Mysterio specified in Guardian Angel that he was let out because he was dying of cancer. Yeah, that makes sense...

another strong possibilty is that the heroes don't hang around after beating a villain. They just beat them up, and drop them off at the police station, with no evidence to prosecute them with

 

[Gambit8370]

It doesn't say much for Matt Murdock's law skills if his entire rogue's gallery keeps getting off on 'reasonable doubt' now does it?

 

[iloveclones]

It doesn't say much for Matt Murdock's law skills if his entire rogue's gallery keeps getting off on 'reasonable doubt' now does it?

That makes me wonder, have they dealt in DD, now that everyone knows who he is, how that has affected cases that he's argued? I'd imagine there have been cases where his capturing a villain as DD conflicts with his role as a lawyer. Just curious. I've been reading DD, but I don't remember anything like that.

 

[Gambit8370]

That makes me wonder, have they dealt in DD, now that everyone knows who he is, how that has affected cases that he's argued? I'd imagine there have been cases where his capturing a villain as DD conflicts with his role as a lawyer. Just curious. I've been reading DD, but I don't remember anything like that.

See, now you're drifting a little too close to some sembance of continuity, a word clearly absent from Marvel's vocabulary.

 

[iloveclones]

What is this strange language you speak to me: con-teen-uuu-eee-teee. What strange culture you must come from. (And stop trying to sell us that damn island!)

 

[DBM]

Where the **** is everyone?

This place (specifically the Marvel Board) has been uber-dead lately.

 

[newnoiseimage]

Where the **** is everyone?

This place (specifically the Marvel Board) has been uber-dead lately.

ive been busy since the "accident" and really havent been in the mood to chat.

(the accident being getting high-sticked and losing 2 front teeth and getting stitches in my face, leading me to get 3 root canals in hte past week, and losing 7 pounds because i can't eat solid food DAMMIT!!!! sorry)

 

[Gambit8370]

Where the **** is everyone?

This place (specifically the Marvel Board) has been uber-dead lately.

I'm here, but I'm trying to keep my posting to a minimum.

No more long-winded rants.