Rate Batman And Robin

[bcgvh]

Every copy of this one should be destroyed.

 

[BubbaGump]

Every copy of this one should be destroyed.

But save one for the guy who rated BR a "10."

 

[CFE]

This is my Fan Review on SHH
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I've been a firm rival against Joel Schumacher's 1997 sequel, 'Batman and Robin' for quite awhile now, but as bad as it is, it still isn't that bad.

Now think about this before you start throwing up your arms in disgust. With multiple Bat-films, two things are obvious: We're going to rank them against each other, and 'Batman and Robin' will be ranked lowest. I don't agree nor disagree with that notion. I still believe Batman and Robin to be the most poor of the four previous Batman films.

But there were good merits, as impossible as it may seem. The cinematography is beautiful, considering both the subject matter (the screenplay, not the Batman character persay) and what the director hoped to achieve. And after watching the "Batman Unbound" documentary, you'll come to understand that it wasn't Schumacher and Goldsman's fault. It was the fault of greedy Warners execs.

Next, acting. Most notibly from Michael Gough and his Alfred Pennyworth. A superb actor, he and Pat Hingle saw their characters of Alfred and Commissioner Gordon, respectively, through. But Gough's performance as an ailing Alfred consoling Bruce was brilliant.

Alfred: There is no defeat in death, Master Bruce. Victory comes in defending what we know is right while we still live.

Don't deny how well crafted that line is. True, for every solid Alfred line, there's a dozen of Arnold's Ice Puns, but what works does.

The biggest defense I can give this film is a simple fact. Everyone has an interpretation of Batman. From Schumacher, to Burton; from me, to you. We most certainly don't have to like what we see in Schumacher's vision, but we can at least respect its existence. We have no right to diminish anyone's take on Batman, no matter what. Doing so is juvenile.

As I said before, I still consider Batman and Robin to be the least favorite of the Batman films. But it's still a part of the mythology of the character. It shows future generations what not to do with the character, and that though it was poor, we wouldn't have Batman Begins if it weren't for Schumacher.

Bottom Line: You don't have to like Batman and Robin, but respect and acknowledge that it's there.

After all, how bad could it really be, since we're still talking about it?
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Batman and Robin - 4/10

CFE

 

[SurfDUI]

Freeze's one-liners was the sole positve

 

[BurtonBegan]

I was going to give this another chance the other day when it came on sky 1, then they clicked their boots to turn them into ice skates, the channel was turned over.

 

[lordofthenerds]

1/10. Whoever gave it a 10 shall be lynched.

 

[Gotham22]

It one of my favorite bat films. It's not great but I dont think its bad either. Just its okay. I give it a 7.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

I would give it a 2/10 for what they were attempting to do but a solid 7/10 for the hilarity they inadvertly produced. That film is one of the funnist films ever made, it so bad it becomes good.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

I gave it a 5/10, my reasons being as follows...

1) George Clooney absolutely sucked as Batman, although his version of Bruce Wayne was at least tolerable. I just didn't get into this film with him in the lead, as I did with seeing Val Kilmer in "Forever". The whole "Batcard" gag was way over-the-top, and so much of his performance seemed more like a Halloween party than a filmic interpretation.

2) Uma Thurman just didn't work in my opinion, although to be fair, Poison Ivy has never been anywhere near my favorite villain. She seemed so vain in this film, and her apparent anger was more of a by-product than a realistic threat. The pheremone-dust angle sucked as well, but I did love the ending with Freeze appearing in her jail cell. Don't even get me started on Bane.....ugh.

3) I actually liked quite a few parts of this film, aside from Thurman and Clooney. One of these was the whole "sick Alfred" subplot, with the fictional McGregor's Syndrome. Michael Gough did an incredible job, playing a loyal servant who hides his illness, so as to spare anyone extra grief.

4) Chris O'Donnell shined again as Robin; the vendetta over Ivy (while I hated her role as stated above) was good for showing a form of conflict, even between the closest of friends. his one-liners were funny, and for the most part I didn't really see anything wrong with him.

5) Alicia Silverstone...easy on the eyes, plus her story was actually interesting. I didn't really care for the "secret motorbike gambling" storyline, although her interaction with Chris as Robin was great. I also liked her few-but-memorable scenes with Michael Gough. A really good version in my opinion, even though they did make her Alfred's neice, rather than Gordon's daughter...

6) Lastly (but by no means least), I actually enjoyed the "Ahnuld the Frozenator" as Mr. Freeze. He was both funny and mean at the same time, and the story of him trying to save his wife worked better than I expected. nice resolution for him as well ("take two of these......and call me in the morning").

 

[Blade90]

("take two of these......and call me in the morning").

Actually, in Arnie Speak, he says; "Tek two uff dese, an cawl meh inneh mohning!"

 

[kooguy911]

hes the only political figure who is in any of the batman films, i guess.

 

[Blade90]

hes the only political figure who is in any of the batman films, i guess.

Well there was Jessy Ventura as that one security guard in the same movie, so....

 

[Sasso]

It's an abomination of film history.

 

[Keymaker]

Now that we have Nolan's franchise going on and repairing all the damage that this film had done, I can actually look back on B&R and enjoy it for what it is...a goofy tribute to the Adam West show t:

 

[kooguy911]

Its more then a joke. Its a tragedy.

Its a tragedy because it wasnt ment to be funny. People are laughing at it, not with it.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

And after watching the "Batman Unbound" documentary, you'll come to understand that it wasn't Schumacher and Goldsman's fault. It was the fault of greedy Warners execs.

Warner's execs did not direct the movie!

Warner Bros. NEVER ever told Schumacher to include...

- A script of nothing but puns
- Slapstick action scenes with awful editing
- Nipples
- Homosexual overtones
- Endless neon lights

Warner Bros asked for a family-friendly toy commercial. A lot of big movies have such pressures, and end up pretty good.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Freeze's one-liners was the sole positve

See, that's intresting. A lot of people say Freeze's endless ice puns are one of the worst aspects. Some say Arnie's performance was awful, some think it was well-judged and amusing.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

What I like about B&R:

- Pacing and story-structure is very good, classic, and a lot better than the Burton films.

- Character development is handled properly. Development itself isn't great, but every one of the five main characters has an arc which leads to a conclusion. Every character does change.

- The film has overriding themes of family and how people cope with loss. All three heroes are orphans who made be about to lose another father figure. Freeze will do anything not to lose his wife. Ivy sees herself as mother nature and doesn't want to lose her children.

- Cinematography by Steven Goldblatt, who won and Oscar for Batman Forever.

 

[CrazyDavey]

I gave it a 2. Only because I liked the moments between Alfred and Bruce (Even though I hate George Clooney as Batman ). Plus, I also think Chris O'Donnell was a cool Robin.

 

[SalaciousVC]

4/10

 

[Sun_Down]

3/10. The best way I can describe it is as a very well polished piece of crap. It had a pretty terrible script and poor acting (overall, some actors gave good performances) but it was atleast produced well and that made it something remotely interesting to look at.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Over the years I've reviewed this film quite a few times, so I don't feel like doing one right now. But to get to the bare essentials, I enjoyed this film. Thought it was quite amusing, had a cool visual flaire, and corny performances. A lot of the stuff in here is very hilarious, like every time Freeze cracks a pun. 6.5/10

j00 'r naught sendin' meh to da coolah!

 

[Kevin Roegele]

Over the years I've reviewed this film quite a few times, so I don't feel like doing one right now. But to get to the bare essentials, I enjoyed this film. Thought it was quite amusing, had a cool visual flaire, and corny performances. A lot of the stuff in here is very hilarious, like every time Freeze cracks a pun. 6.5/10

j00 'r naught sendin' meh to da coolah!

I don't necesarily agree with your opinion, but kudos for giving it despite the fact the film is so despised.

 

[BlackCat19]

Yeah Batman and Robin was possibly THE WORST comic book film ever. Okay, second worst. Catwoman made me throw up in my mouth a little bit. "Patience Phillips" WHY. SLEINA KYLE.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

This video is my tribute to what I like best about Batman & Robin....

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