Rate The New Mutants teaser!

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  1. Cktopl33 Registered

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    One of the producers of Dark Phoenix did say the film is going to carry a different tone from the other x-men movies so it'll be interesting to see how that will appear visually, at least in the first trailer they release:

     
  2. Batmannerism Super-unknown

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    TOTALLY ! 100% agree, this looks nothing like the NM comic - despite what some have said it was never a horror comic , even during the Sienkiewicz era (I met him, great guy, really nice). Anyway, it annoys me that Fox seem to be taking a horror approach to what was originally a lighter version of the X-Men, with a bit of teen angst thrown in - just for the sake of it (as the guy above said). I mean, did they not see how well DC's dark and edgy take on Superman worked out ?

    And no Professor X ? Boooooo !

    IMO New Mutants would be better served by a similar take that we saw in Spider-Man homecoming - or even X-Men first class.
     
  3. psylockolussus Merry Mutant

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    Definitely!

    It looks under budgeted as of now. They could have picked a more expensive looking medical facility for one. The shot with the TV screens on looked like a cheap set. Also the practical effects don't look very well made. If Boone is aiming for a B movie look then he succeeded!
     
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  4. psylockolussus Merry Mutant

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    Because its expected to see mutant abilities in a new mutants trailer. That's like saving the Wolverine claws in a second trailer for a Wolverine film. Wouldn't you be fanning right now if we a small tease of the she wolf, soulsword, dragon's fire and the demonic bear?
     
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  5. Cktopl33 Registered

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    Not if it's unfinished effects, no. We've already seen what that looked like in the sloppy first X-men Apocalypse teaser. Don't need to go through that again. And I wouldn't expect to see it so early after principle photography just wrapped either. For example, take Thor: Ragnarok. That film completed principle photography in October of 2016. The first teaser trailer didn't drop until April of 2017. Which gave them plenty of time to work on VFX shots featured in that teaser. NOT one month after shooting wrapped. Common sense......
     
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  6. GuestStar2004 Registered

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    Chances are one of the reasons New mutants ever got a green light was because of the horror theme.
     
  7. psylockolussus Merry Mutant

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    Not everyone is aware that this film just wrapped up though I am aware. But that shouldn't be an excuse especially if the marketing of this doesn't pay off at the box office because the first impression from the public is its a horror flick but not enough mutant power displays. Also, many films have started filming way ahead of its release, and those films didn't have a scenario in which they needed to limit the teaser/first look because the vfx were still in early stages.
     
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    Nailed it. After Apocalypse didn't really impress anybody (even some folks who enjoyed bits of it), fans demand more and now seem to want the same thing again. A young cast of superheroes learning their powers and going to fight a villain? That was literally just done in X-Men: Apocalypse.

    I am much more intrigued by the idea of a horror movie if it is done well.
     
  9. psylockolussus Merry Mutant

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    Who said about that the New Mutants should be fighting foes in a world that fears and hates them. I've read the comics myself, and they are more into fantasy and adventures and less about fighting mutant rights. Have you read the comics?
     
  10. GuestStar2004 Registered

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    I assume its the default mindset that alot of fans look at these Mutant teams as which is just the same thing but with different characters.
     
  11. x-er Registered

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    and that's what we're supposed to be getting with the Dark Phoenix cast, so I think it's cool to change it up a bit with New Mutants. However, two teen flicks is a big no-no when you're competing with Avengers and Justice League, both of which have a very mature lineup. And I don't think X-Force would cut it either if people still want one classic X-Men film to watch made up of adult (but not perfect) superheroes, somewhat like the 90s animations. Personally, I'd like an X-Men 4.
     
  12. psylockolussus Merry Mutant

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    A New Mutants slash horror film would be similar as Prisoner of Azkaban, there's a sense of terror and suspense along with elements of magiK, fantasy and action. And not necessarily a full blown horror flick.
     
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    You're aware the film just wrapped.....yet complaining about visual effects for powers which you know wouldn't be completed within a month's time. Films with a lot of VFX are not going to show VFX heavy shots in trailers until the effects are more complete unless they want to present sloppy unfinished work like Apocalypse did. Then all people would be complaining about is the terrible visual effects in the trailer. Besides, we're already seeing shots from Moonstar's powers of creating illusions. According to Josh Boone's own words:

    It sounds like you're complaining just for the sake of whining.
     
  14. psylockolussus Merry Mutant

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    You do know certain footage are done in advance for marketing purposes? That's like not showing zero aliens in. an Avatar trailerbbcos none of the vfx aren't done yet thus leading to bad marketing. If you want people to buy a ticket, you gotta give them more reasons to watch. Saving it in a 2nd trailer is just an excuse bcos they were so late heading into production, they couldn't show much for the 1st trailer.

    And no I don't want Apocalypse levels of vfx, but right now production value of this doesn't look any better than Apocalypse. The fact that Dp filmed earlier than this and this one gets released months before Dp, shows that this is a smaller priority for Fox.
     
  15. GuestStar2004 Registered

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    Its a teaser and there has been many teasers that were very much raw non-effects footage.

    And New Mutants hasn't exactly had alot of post-production time since wrap.
     
  16. Mad Ones Bebe le Strange

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    I gave it an 8.

    7.5 would be more accurate but I rounded up. I'm just too intrigued by the horror elements and the many possible twists the teaser set up.
     
  17. Cktopl33 Registered

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    Sigh........
    Principle photography on Avatar started in April 2007. But they had already started working on the visual effects for the movie a full year before shooting because such a huge part of the movie is composed of computer generated elements. And the first photo of the film that kick-started the marketing wasn't released until 2009 INCLUDING the trailer! So they had more than enough time (a couple of years) to finalize visual effects for the first trailer as well as marketing material. Avatar also had to have a number of other companies brought on board including Industrial Light & Magic alongside Weta Digital in order to finish the special effects on time. Each frame of the movie would take several hours to render. I would expect that DP has far more visual effects than NM. Boone said the majority of the film was shot on location at Medfield State Hospital ,so yes.....it's likely a much smaller movie than DP. He also said they tried to do as much practical as they could.

    Second, a teaser trailer usually doesn't reveal much. Understand the purpose of a teaser:

    I realize it says official trailer on NM, but I suspect it's use the same way as a teaser trailer since its the first trailer we've gotten and released so close to principle photography.
     
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  18. psylockolussus Merry Mutant

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    After seeing the latest Black Panther trailer, the New Mutant teaser does look like a b movie.
     
  19. DACrowe Registered

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    But you know what it doesn't look like? A boilerplate, glossy (and empty) blockbuster designed in a committee room somewhere. :sly:
     
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    I'm absolutely unable to rate it. Thumbs up or thumps down it's more of a meh and a shoulder shrug waiting for more at least how I felt after viewing it.

    The movie seems to be going for a teenage niche for the most part. The awkard, fringey, troubled, outcasts characters the trailer presents in a way to draw people's interest or unsettle some members of the audience (introductory lines like barbs flung out and the music the trailer used) but perhaps after the set-up needed to deliver more as the trailer progressed resulting in some people looking down their noses at the film as redundant and the characters in it as losers. Overall, it just kind of felt like this film was made for a niche teenage audience with the way the trailer was presented while maybe being not all that unique compared to other horror films. Judging by the trailer, it didn't seem like the film may not be as subversive or scary as it probably wants to be.

    I think the 2nd trailer should just present the characters as what they are so audience gets to know them rather than use as a set-up to draw people in (can just present troubled individuals this way and draw people in catching offguard with horror elements at end of trailer would be alternative option?).

    With the next trailer, I'm still interested in terms of what to expect in terms of how the horror elements are going to be implemented into the film (bit cliche at end of the trailer with the chanting and ridiculous scream and faces in the drywall)...

    A good niche film I think can still get different types of people to watch it even if not specifically catering to. It may not earn money like a tentpole project but will have legs. If not good, then a tougher sell even to those aiming for.
     
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  21. psylockolussus Merry Mutant

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    Black Panther's ticket sales are through the roof. The New Mutants is delayed to next year.

    Funny, that you made that comment to Black Panther when in a month, it probably won't be "empty" as you think.
     
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    6/10.

    But mostly for the Pink Floyd cover.

    Instead I like more the Black Panther's trailer: visually/costumes seem good.
    But it will be like any other Disney about characters so i will jump it: the last time they cheated me was with Winter Soldier (the last Disney i saw in cinema)
     
  23. Milk Tray Guy 70s Man of Action

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    7/10 The rubber walls thing is getting a bit old.
     
  24. x-er Registered

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    I give it an 8 for the hope of someday seeing something like this

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    I watched the Lord of the Rings trilogy on Hulu the past few weekends and I liked watching Eeowyn's rash yet courageous journey into becoming a hero and slaying the Witch King. Arya's story in Game of Thrones is very similar to that and they got their hands on Maisie Williams, so, I would definitely like to see some journeys in the sense of character development.

    Edit: I agree there is also something more epic about the way the Black Panther trailers (and film) were presented but I still give them the B.O.D.
     
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    The trailer was okay. not the best but intriguing. the fact that it is different from your typical generic cgi comic book trailer was the best part of the trailer.
     

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