I don't know where this notion of acting = lines spoken came from but certainly it's not like that. The more you talk is not the best you act. Not even the screentime means something if the actor is good.
Routh (and Reeve) for me was Superman simple the way he stared and stood. After that he (they) sounded as Superman too the times he spoke.
I don't completely disagree with you. I never found Routh to be a poorly cast actor. He certainly
looked like Superman but I felt that as a newcomer to the role, we'd see a script with more dialogue and interaction. When Reeve played the MoS, we saw plenty to judge him on. Sure, having lots of lines doesn't necessarily mean you're a good actor, but it does help to show whether he can act. Playing Superman has a lot more to it than just standing and staring. Take a look at the X-Men movies; Jackman for instance convinced us through a combination of his dialogue and actions; IMHO, we got more to judge Jackman in X-Men where there are dozens of characters than in SR, where in theory Routh should have been the focus.
I also think that if they make a reboot, they won't be using Routh for Superman.
Glad to see we agree on this.
I'll have to ask for a link or more information about this poll.
Yeah, yeah; there's no poll of course. Any judgment on this is subjective, I admit; neither side can truly prove that hardcore Superman fans disliked SR. You've probably seen the arguments b/f -- the relatively lackluster box office performance ($400M ain't shabby but this IS Superman so we expect more) and the opinions from core Superman writers/artists such as Alex Ross, Kevin Smith, Mark Waid, etc. weren't nearly as supportive as some of the Hollywood press. The bottom line is true-blue fans waited for 20 years for this movie, and well, we expected something more original. SR is -- as many posters have rightfully proffered -- STM retold.
I'm sure the super-powers and the fun of using them are for people more important factors at the time of watching a Superman movie. Add lots of action and punching to SR and they won't care about morals.
That's a bit unfair. People somehow think if you add action then you automatically must be dumbing down the movie. I'm not implying that action alone was what SR needed. IMHO, the SR script was just bad, especially in comparison to even the BAS, STAS, or even JLU. Those "cartoons" dealt with very powerful and sometimes emotional issues and did it with action and substantially less screen time.
And I do believe that as a summer blockbuster, SR failed too. Sure, you don't need as much action as Transformers but movies are a commercial business and Superman is a commercial franchise. I'm all for making artistic expressions in film but Superman isn't what I would characterize as being that kind of subject. Sure, it can be well done and serious, but SR felt like Singer trying to force on consumers only his vision, and while that can work for the X-Men (b/c there was nothing there b/f), he did it to Superman w/o really paying any attention to STM and Superman II (face it, as much as Singer talks about Donner's influence, it's fairly obvious that the tone of SR is starkly different from both of the earlier films and yes, I know II wasn't Donner's but Singer clearly was going off the well known version)
As we see Lois and Superman hgave a past. He "invaded" her house but we never see her insulted or outraged by this. After all he's the love of her life and father of her son.
But there's something odd about it regardless. For starters, the first interaction b/t Superman and Lois on that rooftop felt totally off. If Lois finds Superman to be the love of her life, then there was very little of it in that scene. What I got from Bosworth was neither anger nor compassion. It just felt indifferent. May be the lack of chemistry between the two made it that much more disconcerting to see Superman spying on Lois.
On this note, I just want to say I never liked the son idea to begin with. After 20 years, I wanted a SUPERMAN movie -- a film dedicated to the MoS, with all the stories/struggles in the comics in real-time. Sadly, that's not what I got. Am I bitter? Sure. But I think these boards clearly show I'm far from the only one who feels this way.
The same, Superman has manipulated Lois' mind without her authorization (or even knowledge), quit his mission for a girl in the previous movies and abused his super-powers over a human being on a personal vendetta. I don't think any of that is part of truth, justice (and certainly I hope it's not the American Way).
But even STM and Superman II reconciled WHY he did those things. Ultimately, Superman's notorious kiss was b/c he loved Lois so much. He didn't want to see her so broken everyday. The love for human life and the struggle to be who he is and is defined to be is far more apparent in the earlier movies than in SR. In SR, there's no clear resolution -- at the end, you're just left wondering -- okay, Superman has a son -- he refuses to talk to Lois about it -- there's very little closure. And yes, may be Singer made it with a sequel in mind, but that doesn't mean he could not have placed Clark/Superman and Lois in further dialogue sequences to flesh out the problem and give us a better sense of how this plays out. Too much of SR is in silent darkness (sometimes literally).
Reeve's Superman (and the script) carried a far greater tone that set Superman's character apart. The line I will always remember is when Lois tells him that his desire for truth, justice, and the American Way would lead him to fight every politician in Metropolis. Reeve interjects and states in a tone as powerful as it is firm, "Lois, I never lie." That moment defined the movie. It also defined the character. Sure, Donner's Superman wasn't perfect but his mistakes weren't, IMHO, nearly as destitute as those Singer imposes on SR's Superman. I admit this debate isn't a strong one. It's a personal view -- essentially, I think Superman should always retain that "role model" image that makes us want to be him. Not for his powers but for what he stands for. I never got that in SR. As I said before, I almost started to dislike him. May be it was b/c I saw what he was doing as so extremely out of character -- but some may not see that. Here, it's a moral judgment. I think Superman's should always stay close to the ideal with any aberration not swaying too far from what could be viewed as equally noble. In SR, the pendulum swings too far to the other side -- his actions do seem hardly noble (leaving without even saying good-bye?, spying on Lois, child out of wedlock and then never talking to Lois about it -- instead just flying off at the end?). It never felt right. I suppose, it never felt even close to truth, justice, and the American Way.