Red Dawn Remake

[Spideyfan93]

But wait a minute...we've heard nothing about Cabin in the Woods...

 

[flickchick85]

But wait a minute...we've heard nothing about Cabin in the Woods...

Yeah we have, it's coming out April 13th.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/07/lionsgate-sets-april-13-2012-bow-for-the-cabin-in-the-woods/

 

[mclay18]

But wait a minute...we've heard nothing about Cabin in the Woods...

Lionsgate bought the rights from MGM this past April, and they're giving it a wide release on April 13, 2012.

http://collider.com/the-cabin-in-the-woods-release-date/103740/

It just seems odd for FilmDistrict to buy the completed film and not release it for another year. They should go for an earlier date, one that doesn't conflict with the other two.

 

[Rowsdower!]

As previously confirmed by Latino Review, FilmDistrict has picked up domestic distribution rights to Red Dawn and will release it in theaters November 2, 2012. I wonder if FilmDistrict will release the unaltered one featuring the Chinese invading the U.S., rather than digitally altering it to North Koreans.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=reddawn10.htm

But... man, next year will be Hemsworth overload. First Cabin in the Woods, then Avengers and now Red Dawn. It'll either make him a household name or overexposed like Jude Law did in 2004.

Don't forget Snow White.

I think Hemsworth is charismatic enough though that people won't tire of him. His brother on the other hand... hell, I haven't even seen that kid in a movie yet and I'm ALREADY sick of him.

 

[Thundercrack85]

The idea of China invading the United States is silly. But North Korea invading the United States? An alien invasion would be much more believable.

 

[jmc]

Still borderline racism if you ask me after what they did to alter the film. Ridiculous.

 

[Thundarr]

Not that much, at least at the moment. But China is still the largest country in the world, second in economic power and so the concept makes more sense than a piss-poor country with 25 million inhabitants and no navy.

North Korea invading the US would be more like a sequel to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mouse_That_Roared

I believe I had mentioned in an earlier post that having North Korea and China team up to invade the US would have made the most sense, naratively speaking, as they are pretty much the last communist countries with any real military power. North Korea are more militant in their communist beliefs, but China has the larger standing army and a larger population to draw from when drafting civilians into service.

So North Korea would be like Cuba was in te original, while China would play the USSR's role. But this movie sounds so badly thought out, and the subject matter is so out dated, I'm probably gonna skip this movie entirely.

 

[cherokeesam]

Hollywood should be embarrassed to even release this now. Buncha cowards. China has snipped the balls of Hollywood....and America.

This could've been a topical political movie with real teeth. Instead, it'll be the butt of jokes for decades to come.

 

[jmc]

I don't see how it would have had real teeth at all even if China were the invaders. To make a film like Red Dawn work you need a real world 'bad guy' to use as reference, problem is today's bad guys don't represent any one nation, they represent a twisted ideology.

 

[8wid]

They should've had Cuba invade the United States instead upon the death of Fidel Castro, that would have made more since to me.

 

[Thundercrack85]

They should've had Cuba invade the United States instead upon the death of Fidel Castro, that would have made more since to me.

That invasion would be shorter than the trailer.

 

[8wid]

^But would make alot more sense than China or North Korea invading the mainland of the US.

 

[Tron Bonne]

The same problem with that idea is the same with the North Korea idea; it's just not plausible. The China one isn't really when you get right down to it, but at the very least they would have the ability to realistically mobilize such a feat. Thunder is right, because that would get cut down so fast we'd have to rename it Bay of Piglets.

I mean really, it's a very anarchistic and stupid idea no matter how you want to try and cut it. You have to put some post-apocalyptic edge to it (which I'm not sure if they did or not, I can't remember), or you just have to shut your mind off and not think about it in the least.

 

[8wid]

At least with the original story concerned an energy crisis over oil and a conflict over Taiwan when it came to China. Was is North Korea going to want to want? To inact glorius revenge for the Dear Leader?

 

[cherokeesam]

I don't see how it would have had real teeth at all even if China were the invaders. To make a film like Red Dawn work you need a real world 'bad guy' to use as reference, problem is today's bad guys don't represent any one nation, they represent a twisted ideology.

Are you referring to the "Islamofascists" that Faux News et al. wants us to believe are hiding under our beds as boogeymen....? No, even *that's* outdated fantasy. After America helped install democratic governments in Iraq and Afghanistan, and as the Muslims continue to do a damn fine job of it themselves by overthrowing their own tyrants in Yemen, Libya, Egypt, Algeria, Syria, Iran and elsewhere, and with the destruction of al-Qaeda leadership wholesale in recent months, Islamic terrorists are no longer a believable threat.

And the whole notion of *any* country or group wanting to invade the USA has always been a paranoid pipe-dream from the start. The first rule of war is that you need supply lines to support an invasion, and that's one very tall order for anyone trying to land a beachhead in America. You'd have to control any one of the following: the entire Pacific Ocean for an invasion from the west; the entire Atlantic Ocean from the east; the entire Mexican border for an invasion from the south; and the entire Canadian border (not to mention all of Alaska) for an invasion from the north. That means a full-scale naval war in the Atlantic and/or Pacific that would make WWII's battle for shipping control look like toy boats fighting in a bathtub; and/or a massive land war in Canada or Mexico even *before* an American invasion could actually begin.

 

[8wid]

^The British invasion during the War of 1812 happened when America was only about two decades old. But the last time an invasion of the United States may have actually been a viable threat was possibly before World War I when there great fears of an invasion from Mexico to the US Army to intervene in their Revolution. Germany was feared to be a naval threat in the Pacific when the US occupied the Phillipines, which could have been counteracted and could have never reached the mainland.

Before that fears of an invasion during the Maximilliano Affair in which France or Britain would have aided the Confederacy, which there was no gain from if Lincoln invaded Canda or Mexico as he threatened to do. And maybe before the Lousiana Purchase in which the U.S. feared Napoleon would extended the French Empire in America before the Lousiana Purchase or during the annexation of Texas in which Britain plotted to use it as a naval station and if war broke out with the US, to starve it to death in a giant blockade, fragment the government and claim back its old colonies.

Japan did invade US territories on the farside of the Pacific, but could have at the most bombed US ports. Germany could not have touched the US at all. The Soviets could only nuke America.

This US invasion fodder is just saki for highly unrealistic games like Modern Warefare and Homefront.

 

[Thundercrack85]

The Soviet Union at the height of its power could have potentially invaded the United States through Alaska (and Canada). Assuming the war didn't turn into a nuclear holocaust, which it probably would have.

China would first have to occupy Japan.

 

[jmc]

Are you referring to the ''Islamofascists'' that Faux News et al. wants us to believe are hiding under our beds as boogeymen....? No, even *that's* outdated fantasy. After America helped install democratic governments in Iraq and Afghanistan, and as the Muslims continue to do a damn fine job of it themselves by overthrowing their own tyrants in Yemen, Libya, Egypt, Algeria, Syria, Iran and elsewhere, and with the destruction of al-Qaeda leadership wholesale in recent months, Islamic terrorists are no longer a believable threat.

I'm referring to extremists terrorists are the perceived threat in the world. Didn't say I believed the bull **** those US cable channels dish out or that I agree with it, just saying that's the perceived threat like how Russia was the perceived threat in the 80's, like it or not. Don't misinterpret my words.

 

[mclay18]

Don't forget Snow White.

That totally slipped my mind. Thanks for reminding me.

I believe I had mentioned in an earlier post that having North Korea and China team up to invade the US would have made the most sense, naratively speaking, as they are pretty much the last communist countries with any real military power.

I hear MGM didn't change every reference from China to N. Korea in the new cut. It could be that China is enabling N. Korea to invade the U.S., but who knows.

Libertas has an extensive, SPOILER-FILLED synopsis and review of the 'uncensored' cut of the Red Dawn remake. Read it if you don't mind being spoiled.

 

[Ultimatehero]

Jesus I'm sad now, I saw the cut in August - it was literally amazing, by the end you literally felt like getting up and cheering "WOLVERINES!!!" The audience I was with loved it, so hearing that version might not get to theaters is really depressing. It was hard core American Revolution american spirit.

 

[kickass]

Well, if all they're tampering with is the Chinese being turned into North Koreans, everything else should stay intact, no?

 

[Ultimatehero]

Libertas seems to be saying some parts are being changed a lot. Unsure how true that is. If all that's being changed is minor background details - alright. But, if they have to go back and water down a lot of things - it could result in other areas weakening.

 

[BestGirl]

The idea of China invading the United States is silly. But North Korea invading the United States? An alien invasion would be much more believable.

Why didn't they go the alien invasion route? It wouldn't have offended anybody and it would be more plausible.

 

[dark_b]

i remember times when they would invent and create a new country . everyone would win.

 

[Pink Ranger]

They should do a movie where Canada invades the U.S. We could take the north half of your country pretty easily, maybe we'd stop at the Mason/Dixon line so we don't have to fight your gun-toting good ole boys.