Red Dwarf

[Casius--J]

I waited until yesterday to watch them because I wanted to see them all at once.

I loved them, parts two and three were better than the first but as a whole it was very enjoyable. I too missed the laughter track, would've been nice if they could've added that in.

Hopefully this will generate enough interest to get season 9 and 10 going!

 

[Pirateking]

Good to see Kochanski there...even if it was only a cameo in Lister's dream. PLEASE keep it going!

 

[Vapor]

I didn't bother with the 3rd episode but I heard it had something to do with a despair squid.. So does that mean the whole trip to 'earth' and them finding out they are TV characters was just an hallucination or has the whole of series 8 been retconned as a hallucination too?

'Cos that would atleast make it passable imo. I would hate the idea of them finding out they are tv characters for real to be part of official cannon..

I can't really beleive they self referenced themselves as tv characters though.. It's a very bottom of the barrell idea that's not really very sci-fi.. it's what cartoons do, and even then it's normally tongue in cheek or not really done as a serious plot point. And on top of that it was handled very half assedly IMO..

That scene from episode 2 where they go to the sci-fi shop with the geeky owner was pretty cringe worthy...

 

[Lord Valumart]

i recorded them all for a guy at work and he loved them when he watched it as a whole. he thought most of it was classic red dwarf

 

[Sentry2005]

I can't really beleive they self referenced themselves as tv characters though.. It's a very bottom of the barrell idea that's not really very sci-fi.. it's what cartoons do, and even then it's normally tongue in cheek or not really done as a serious plot point. And on top of that it was handled very half assedly IMO..

That scene from episode 2 where they go to the sci-fi shop with the geeky owner was pretty cringe worthy...

OK, It's not a very bottom of the barrel idea as you call it. It's an idea that is hard to do well and easy to do badly. Dwarf just managed it with this three parter. I was fearing League of Gentlemen's Apocalypse level of ****, but what I got was a slow starting but ultimately satisfying Red Dwarf.

How is anything in Red Dwarf not tongue in cheek? Ever? It's just designed to everything in a silly way, even the sci-fi exposition is purposefully stupid.

The 3rd episode featured the despair squid (or a female one, elation squid). It made the whole story a long what if, but didn't do anything to season 8's continuity.

Personally found the geek shop funny. The only thing I found cringe worthy in all three episodes were the annoying kids who explain what happened to Kochanski. As a story it was solid enough, entertaining in the end, and just took a while to warm up (wouldn't you after nine years off?).

Here's hoping for a series ten (I read somewhere that Grant doesn't want to do series 9, just skip straight to 10... can't remember where though)

 

[Vapor]

The 3rd episode featured the despair squid (or a female one, elation squid). It made the whole story a long what if, but didn't do anything to season 8's continuity.

Ah right, cheers.

Personally found the geek shop funny. The only thing I found cringe worthy in all three episodes were the annoying kids who explain what happened to Kochanski. As a story it was solid enough, entertaining in the end, and just took a while to warm up (wouldn't you after nine years off?).

Yeah that bit with the kids was really bad too. I can't really comment properly 'cos I only really saw the 2nd ep.. As a whole it might work better than seperately but.. was just off, to me.

OK, It's not a very bottom of the barrel idea as you call it. It's an idea that is hard to do well and easy to do badly. Dwarf just managed it with this three parter. I was fearing League of Gentlemen's Apocalypse level of ****, but what I got was a slow starting but ultimately satisfying Red Dwarf.

How is anything in Red Dwarf not tongue in cheek? Ever? It's just designed to everything in a silly way, even the sci-fi exposition is purposefully stupid.

Yeah, perhaps I worded it wrong. I dunno, it was just very different (even to series 8) and off to me. I know a lot of Dwarf is parody and silly tongue i ncheek moments.. I'm trying to think how to explain what I mean here but there is serious comedic/story telling reasoning behind it, if you will.. With this new stuff, it felt very different and like a pale immitation of what it once was. It's like how the new Dr Who feels different to the original Who run.

Perhaps it was just 'cos the laughter track was gone that is just changed how it all felt.. The gang obviously still have it and I can see the writing is still there but I just don't like the idea they went with at all...

 

[nathaniel]

I just think the main cast looked jaded they are plainly going through the motions the premise of Dwarf is still solid imo and the Dave three parter had a good storyline that was typical dwarf. IMO it needs a new cast of new characters.

 

[The Lizard]

smeg > frak

 

[The Englishman]

I just think the main cast looked jaded they are plainly going through the motions the premise of Dwarf is still solid imo and the Dave three parter had a good storyline that was typical dwarf. IMO it needs a new cast of new characters.

Well your opinion is ****!!

 

[nathaniel]

Well your opinion is ****!!

The truth hurts.

They where clearly just going through the motions the show needs a shot in the arm, a freash breath like they did with Doctor Who.

 

[The Englishman]

The truth hurts.

They where clearly just going through the motions the show needs a shot in the arm, a freash breath like they did with Doctor Who.

No it doesnt, the cast was great newbie..

 

[The Englishman]

So whats everyones favorite series??

 

[nathaniel]

No it doesnt, the cast was great newbie..

Sorry imo they where kinda average they said all the right things and the show was fine but the energy just wasnt there the closest i saw to the old cast magic was Cat argueing with Lister about cloths in the first episode after that it got very humdrum from the guys.

As a small channel 4 type english comedy show it can still work in its present form but to totally revitalise the franchise to rival Dr Who it needs either a brand new cast or an extended cast alongside the veterans who are slowly bled in to replace them.

 

[black_dust]

As a small channel 4 type english comedy show it can still work in its present form but to totally revitalise the franchise to rival Dr Who it needs either a brand new cast or an extended cast alongside the veterans who are slowly bled in to replace them.

First off its the BBC, Second why in the world would it need to rival Dr Who? Dr Who is just shy of a full blow kids tv show, where Red Dwarf is and always will be a adult comedy.

They no need to replace any of the cast as the whole point is that lister and lister alone is the only human left alive, if some was off in the way they interacted that was the average writing that did it.

 

[black_dust]

So whats everyones favorite series??

4 or 5 which ever it was when they were stuck with Star Bug, that gave a nice twist on things

 

[The Englishman]

4 or 5 which ever it was when they were stuck with Star Bug, that gave a nice twist on things

That would be series 6

 

[black_dust]

That would be series 6

Really? was it that late on? Could have sworn it was V but i checked and it was VI.

 

[Vapor]

Nah I think the guys still have it, if anything, it was the writing which was poor or let it down imo.. which is a shame really, because like I just said, the gang still have 'it' and it was great seeing them together again so, providing they could plan out a proper series and shape up the writing, more in line with the middle few series, then i'd well be up for a series 9.

My fave series would probably be series 6.. but 4 and 5 are good too with 5 probably been it's peak.

Although I do enjoy Better Than Life and Stasis Leak from series 2 and Polymoprh from series 3 was obviously one of the better episodes too (C.L.I.T.O.R.I.S)..

 

[McGraw]

I thought the easter specials were great, not quite on par with a lot of episodes but still beats almost all sci-fi on nowadays Currently rewatching the whole show, off to watch Season 2 episode 3 now

 

[nathaniel]

First off its the BBC, Second why in the world would it need to rival Dr Who? Dr Who is just shy of a full blow kids tv show, where Red Dwarf is and always will be a adult comedy.

They no need to replace any of the cast as the whole point is that lister and lister alone is the only human left alive, if some was off in the way they interacted that was the average writing that did it.

Who doesnt know its BBC? I was referencing the size of the show C4 shows tend to be smaller in scale but have great writing shows like black books, the IT crowd and father ted for e.g.

Dr Who is aimed at kids but it was revitalised for a modern market while Dwarf still looks a little dated im not saying it shouldnt keep its adult humour.

Though the point is Lister as the last man alive i still think there is room for more characters the universe is a big place throw in a couple of aliens or something the old cast just look tired maybe they need to recast the main cast?..

 

[The Englishman]

Who doesnt know its BBC? I was referencing the size of the show C4 shows tend to be smaller in scale but have great writing shows like black books, the IT crowd and father ted for e.g.

Dr Who is aimed at kids but it was revitalised for a modern market while Dwarf still looks a little dated im not saying it shouldnt keep its adult humour.

Though the point is Lister as the last man alive i still think there is room for more characters the universe is a big place throw in a couple of aliens or something the old cast just look tired maybe they need to recast the main cast?..

No they dont!!!!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Hmm. I've been watching Red Dwarf and I just got to series 7, episode 3. The one where alterna-Kochanski shows up. I gotta say, I'm not a fan. They randomly retconned a relationship between her and Dave into the past, swapped the actress, changed her personality, and didn't even bother to make her Scottish! It's just too much. I hope she grows on me, but I'm not expecting much. I'm just glad Rimmer comes back eventually (according to Wikipedia, anyway).