Red Skull of Herr Kleiser, who would you rather see in a new Captain America film?

[The Overlord]

Let him be a Nazi than and then let the movie make only $150 million in the box office and then you'll be blissfully happy.

If Red Skull is not a Nazi, than there is no point in using him, they should use someone else then. I'm sure Hydra or someone could fill the role of generic terrorists.

 

[War Lord]

If Red Skull is not a Nazi, than there is no point in using him, they should use someone else then. I'm sure Hydra or someone could fill the role of generic terrorists.

I think he can still be used, but the Nazi theme has been so overused that it is meaningless. It hardly creates excitement.

 

[The Overlord]

I think he can still be used, but the Nazi theme has been so overused that it is meaningless. It hardly creates excitement.

If he's not Nazi and didn't fight in WWII, he is not the character from the comics, he is nothing more than another lame, generic, Hollywood terrorist villain, the only difference is he has a skull mask. If they are just going to make the Skull a generic terrorist, then I don't see the point of using him.

There are tons of generic terrorists running around MU, Hell they could make up terrorist villains for Cap to fight, but if they are just going to transform the Skull into a generic, bland, cookie cutter terrorist villain, I would rather them not use the Skull, then use him and butcher his character.

 

[SilentType]

I think Cap should be a WWII movie. Change things up a bit from the usual superhero movie.
And people will still go see a WWII movie if its well done.

 

[Kable24]

Red Skull...and captain america should be set during WW2 damn it

Red Skull and WWII all the way for the first movie.

 

[3dman27]

Red Skull and WWII all the way for the first movie.

and a human herr kleiser could be the skulls second in command [in the ultimates klieser's a skrull/chtarei]

 

[U.S War Machine]

Red Skull who else it's Cap's number 1 villian

 

[Darthphere]

and a human herr kleiser could be the skulls second in command [in the ultimates klieser's a skrull/chtarei]

Chitauri.

 

[3dman27]

thanks

 

[Darthphere]

I would love to see something like in Brubaker's Winter SOldier arc with the flashbacks and all, get the best of both worlds. Bucky sold separetely.

 

[Ben Urich]

and captain america should be set during WW2 damn it

Absolutely

 

[halo68]

A real good Captain America movie would be set in 95% of WW2, that way they can show what he meant to the troops, to the folks back home and to his enemies.
Only by showing what an icon and a hero he was THEN can it stress how much of a legend he would be NOW.
Red Skull would be good but i think he should be a creation of the real villain who works behind the scenes giving Hitler the machinery and super-troops needed to fight the Allies.
The real villain behind the scenes should be Arnim Zola (comic book fans take note), here is a master geneticist who can create monsters out of men and enhance men into super-troops capable of wreaking massive havok on the fighting forces in Europe at the time.
Zola is a villain who could have created fresh clone bodies in which to transport his mind into whenever he felt like it. Imagine it, this man could have been working behind the scenes all along over the years from various posts of power and then when Captain America is revived from the ice (in the second movie) then he could resume trying to destroy the one man he failed to in WW2.
Just my 2 cents, i think it would work.....Hey Avi Arad, call me on this!

 

[InkSlinger]

A real good Captain America movie would be set in 95% of WW2, that way they can show what he meant to the troops, to the folks back home and to his enemies.
Only by showing what an icon and a hero he was THEN can it stress how much of a legend he would be NOW.
Red Skull would be good but i think he should be a creation of the real villain who works behind the scenes giving Hitler the machinery and super-troops needed to fight the Allies.
The real villain behind the scenes should be Arnim Zola (comic book fans take note), here is a master geneticist who can create monsters out of men and enhance men into super-troops capable of wreaking massive havok on the fighting forces in Europe at the time.
Zola is a villain who could have created fresh clone bodies in which to transport his mind into whenever he felt like it. Imagine it, this man could have been working behind the scenes all along over the years from various posts of power and then when Captain America is revived from the ice (in the second movie) then he could resume trying to destroy the one man he failed to in WW2.
Just my 2 cents, i think it would work.....Hey Avi Arad, call me on this!

This is a good idea!
It has to be the Red Skull.
Hitler's evil still scares the **** out of a lot of people, because as we've seen, it returns again and again.
The world hasn't changed all that much since WWII.
The Nazi evil hasn't been forgotten, and probably never will.
Look at what's happening in Israel today and tell me that Cap vs. the Red Skull wouldn't work.
You bet your ass it will work.
The movie has to show the origins of both men in WWII, and it has to show the never-ending battle between these two to the present.
Done right, everyone in that theater will stand up and salute the sacrifices made by the thousands who fought in that war on all sides against the Nazi's. This movie should be made as a serious memorial to all of the WWII service men whose fighting epitomized the American spirit that created Captain America- a champion of truth and justice for all peoples. That's why I think Michael Shanks would be perfect as Steve Rogers/Captain America.
Avi, call him.
'Nuff said!

 

[XCharlieX]

While i feel Captain America has potential for good cinema and i can see what they were trying to do with the low budget version of the early 90s, but i have no idea how you make a film with a dude draped in the american flag in todays world and have it not tank in different countries.

My selection of villain would be red skull.

 

[GL1]

Nazi's are played out, but Arab terrorists aren't? At leat Nazis didn't dissappear of the face of the earth after a few bombings, they fought a good war or two, and almost won.

That said, I like the idea of Captain America being set in the past, showing Bucky die and cap getting frozen at the end, waking up after the credts in the present day before Nick Fury. That'd be hot. I think Herr Kleiser should be a supporting character, for various reasons, but Red Skull should be the main baddie... by far... again, I love ultimates and Kleiser was a great character, but he's not ready to replace Red Skull, not for real....

 

[R&B]

Simple question - Red Skull or Kleiser, which villain would you rather see Captain America fighting should he get another shot at the big screen?

Both

Mainly Red Skull evolving from a undercover German Spy in America to a messed up as in something want wrong German super soldier attempt

Also ambitious Herr Kleiser wanting to take Red Skull's place with collaboration at first but a little villains confrontation at some point


PS: Where is that Captain America Film Message board

 

[Spider-Fan]

Nazi Red Skull...if the Red Skull is a terrorist, I would storm Marvel Studios and set fire to it. Cap was made in WWII and fought Nazi's. It is not outdated, if anything making the Red Skull a terrorist would be offensive.

Cap should be done it two parts. First part, set in WWII, and modern day in the second. It would make the second part more emotional, since we established him as a man of the forties.

 

[FOG3]

Red Skull as the villain, definitely. And he HAS to be a nazi, thats what he is.

 

[Obi-Ron]

Just because the Skull is a Nazi doesn't mean he can't/won't use terrorism.
Just because someone is a terrorist doesn't mean he/she is of Arabic descent.

Some posts on this thread are bordering on racism.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I can't see how anyone can say they don't want to see the Red Skull as a Nazi. That is a core part of his character. Taking that away makes him a whole other person, and just leaves the name basically. It also takes away from who Cap is. Cap is a man of the forties, and the Nazi's were his enemies. Why bother doing a Captain America movie if you're just gonna have him fight terrorism? Cap is not a story of an American super soldier, it is the story of a man who is out of his time and trying to accept this new society that seems so vastly different. This is the story of Cap you should be focusing on, not what America is fighting (or claiming to fight depending on who ask) today.

I say he fights the Nazi's in WWII and Red Skull the villain of movie 1, and in the modern times, I'd like to see the Red Skull face him again. This is a time the Skull is more willing to accept than Cap is at first. That is what I'd do. Skull could use terrosits in movie 2, but he has to be a Nazi in movie 1. It is part of who he is.

 

[Darth Rockwell]

Red Skull all the way. That is what bothers the heck out of me is that Red Skull isn't in the "Ultimate" universe butsome other guy. Red Skull goes with Capt as Lokie goes with Thor.

 

[3dman27]

Red Skull all the way. That is what bothers the heck out of me is that Red Skull isn't in the "Ultimate" universe butsome other guy. Red Skull goes with Capt as Lokie goes with Thor.

maybe they think turning the skull into a shape shifting alien would screw up his character