Religion Which One Is Right If Any

[The Overlord]

No you don't.

Nah, seriously, I don't give a ****, people can believe whatever they want, as long they don't bother me and mind their own business. I'm God indifferent, religion is as good or evil as people make it, religion is mostly used for evil because humanity is more likely to do evil than good.

 

[Kritish]

You talk like it encourages the slaying of anyone with different beliefs. That was another time; a very different time. Quoting what happened with the Crusades, or when the Spanish tried to get rid of all the Muslims in Spain to name some things, are not great ways to improve your side of the argument.

To say the faith is based upon countless murdering is entirely farfetched. That is like saying, such ideas are being spread and taught to even now. Surprised such a comment would be made.

• Catholicism took over Europe through less than ethical means, it conquered South America even bore brutally.
• 2nd gen Catholics as I call then don't even get the choice to become Catholic. Their parents drag them into it from birth, sure they have the choice at some of the latter rituals but most of them are afraid of social rejection so they go along with it no matter how they feel.

 

[trustyside-kick]

• Catholicism took over Europe through less than ethical means, it conquered South America even bore brutally.

You are missing the point. You said that my faith essentially is based upon all of those things when that is entirely false. I don't recall walking into Church on Sunday and the priest or deacon preaching about committing such acts. Can I help it if some bad ideas were executed and set out in the past?

Even so, those wrongful acts do not change the Faith. All it shows is that there was a time that people who were of that Faith so strongly wished to force their beliefs on others. I'm well aware of some of the corruption with the Pope in the old days. But as I said, those were the old days. You cannot look at the past and say things are the exact same in the present.

• 2nd gen Catholics as I call then don't even get the choice to become Catholic. Their parents drag them into it from birth, sure they have the choice at some of the latter rituals but most of them are afraid of social rejection so they go along with it no matter how they feel.

I know where you are going with social rejection and I understand that. But that idea in general, can be said with any religion. I see what you are saying about the sacrament of baptism, but overall that can be applied to any religion.

Also, as you said there is wiggle room because they do not necessarily have to stick with the faith. You talk like they are bringing forced into some horrifying and dangerous cult that makes them perform unthinkable rituals because their parents make the choice to baptize them. Just with baptism, that is how parents introduce their children to that Faith.

EDIT: Not everyone like you said has to go through all the sacraments. So I do not see how you planned to use those to the advantage of your side of the argument.

You are labeling the fear of social rejection for not sharing the same beliefs as the ones around oneself for only Catholics; and that can be said for any religion. Thus, your comment loses all potency in my eyes.

 

[Kritish]

Also, as you said there is wiggle room because they do not necessarily have to stick with the faith. You talk like they are bringing forced into some horrifying and dangerous cult that makes them perform unthinkable rituals because their parents make the choice to baptize them.

You are labeling the fear of social rejection for not sharing the same beliefs as the ones around oneself for only Catholics; and that can be said for any religion. Thus, your comment loses all potency in my eyes.

Just because there wasn't a virgin goat fetus doesn't mean that it was right. Seems to me that people should have a choice in their religon.

Of course you don't see that argument as potent. You're not going to be rational on this topic for obvious reasons.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Rational? I'm being rational. How am I not being rational? Everything you said has no depth. You are just pointing out dark times in an very old religion. And am I denying any of that? No.

Here's one you may want to add since you seem to like to bash: during the transition from Pagan beliefs to Christian, churches had both gods pictured and painted throughout the walls and ceilings.

You want to try to use that against me now too? You seem so fixated on focusing on the past where things weren't so great and believing that nothing has changed.

I've been rational the whole time. You just keeping bringing up topics that are essentially irrelevant. What does that have to do with what Priest and Pastors and Deacons of churches preach every Sunday? I mean, if you stumbled into a church and found a Priest or someone preaching to the masses about any of those negative things you brought up, I could understand. But frankly? I've never heard such words pour out of their lips.

And if it helps, since you think I'm being biased towards my side, I'm not even a strongly religious Catholic. I never read the Bible or anything, I just saw total nonsense and had to call it out.

 

[Mr. Socko]

To expand on what I said last page, I like the works of Christianity, Judaism, and Buddhism. I am not familiar with Islamic religions but I'm sure it too contains good things. I believe in God. A God who judges the person by their character and what they've accomplished, or tried to here on earth. Did they sit around and rot or try to make a difference? I believe that anyone can enter through the gates of Heaven as long they're a good person despite what race, religion, or sexuality you are.

That's what I believe, and well hey, if I'm wrong and there is no heaven or hell then I'll just be laying in a casket not giving a h00t 70 years or so from now. Not much to lose eh.

 

[SUNRYZE]

........The path of the Jedi........

 

[Mr. Socko]

........The path of the Jedi........

Haha, what percent of the UK voted Jedi Force user in the polls that one time?

 

[trustyside-kick]

The irony is, people in general and sadly christians for that matter won't complain about this pic, yet, if it were some how refrencing Islam, the mods would be on this like Jenna on a **** and there'd be uproar. I'm not having a gow at you because I know its all fun and games, however I do find it disrespectful and worse yet, the overall lax attitude to the mockery that the christian religion faces.

That would mainly be because from my understanding, in that Faith, it is forbidden to portray any icons or pictures of their prophet. I forget the details...but that is basically why. So I could understand someone who is Islamic being incredibly offended if a "picture of Mohammad" was displayed.

 

[Shoemeister]

The only religion I'll ever need.

 

[AhabTheArab]

i believe in karma.

 

[Sandman138]

The only religion I'll ever need.

:heart: swoon :heart:

 

[Addendum]

i believe in karma.

You watch Carson Daly too?

 

[Sandman138]

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Dammit! Watch it you normals!

 

[Mr Sparkle]

This is stupid. Christians are constantly persecuted on this site, but every other religion is thought of as brilliant and cultured.

is there like...a "death camp for Christians" thread I missed or do you just not know the meaning of "persecute"?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I believe in The Path Of the One or, as it's also called, Matrixism.

Some people believe in Jesus. I believe in Keanu Reeves.

 

[Sandman138]

Your messiah is a real doll animated by the spirit of a tree? Lame.

 

[cookiva]

This is stupid. Christians are constantly persecuted on this site, but every other religion is thought of as brilliant and cultured.

No, idiots are persecuted on this site. It just so happens that the biggest idiots here are the the crazies.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Your messiah is a real doll animated by the spirit of a tree? Lame.

My messiah knows kung fu, can fly, and slept with her:

 

[Mr Jide]

Oh the irony, the up tight, homophobic and self-righteous Christian has the avatar of a woman's ass. I guess I'll see you in hell.

I havn't said anything about who is going to hell and clearly you fail at comprehension because I havn't made myself to be self righteous. LEARN TO READ AND UNDERSTAND!
I've stated many times I am flawed and I am a sinner just like everyone else. But because I don't agree with the act of homosexuality that makes me homophobic? You people who have such a ******ed mentality will forever be losers and will forever sustain the hate that gays actually recieve simply because you fail to distinguish the difference between someone's preference and actual hate. Your're trying to make everyone who isn't on board with the gay bandwagon your enemy. Nice going. As for my avvy, you people that keep mentioning it have no leg to stand on simply because I'm not here condeming others for their actions and I'm not exactly lusting over it. Learn to read and to construct a meaningful argument, maybe you just might be enlightened. As for seeing me in hell, I don't think so, I'm sure the likes of hitler, stalin and sadam will gladly throw you one hell of a party when you get there, gladly sticking their tools in your a-hole and nostrils

 

[Mr Jide]

I like to be inflammatory. Also, we have free speech- therefore I can make fun of what you hold in high regard if I so please. Just because I don't have a problem with all Christians doesn't mean I give a damn if I offend them all.

By that moronic logic, your saying its perfectly ok to be openly racist. You clearly have no sense of social conduct.
Here's your assignment for the day, do yourself a favour and go look up the words, consideration and courtesy

 

[S_H_F_4839]

hasn't this topic been done to death already, a couple of times in fact.

 

[Mr Jide]

Mmmm, well, the part where you said that all other religions are considered to be cultured and great is unfounded.

You are right that Christianity is "constantly" attacked here, because there are so many people on the Hype, that there is constantly someone else on who is against Christianity, and constantly, somewhere, a Christian who is attacking a non-Christian's way of life, like Memphis Slim, Moviefan2K4, Varient, Mr. 7000+, etc.

Here you go accusing me of things I havn't done. I havn't attacked anyone's way of life. Are you deliberately trying to convince me and others that you have no basic understanding of comprehension skills?
I don't agree with the act of homosexuality. Now, despite me stating this comment numerous times, I fail to see where and how I'm launching an attack on gay people. Like I've said, I have gay friends, I treat them no different from anyone else, the only thing is, I just don't condone what they're doing. It's so simple yet you find it increasingly hard to accept and understand.

 

[Mr Jide]

No, idiots are persecuted on this site. It just so happens that the biggest idiots here are the the crazies.

Such as yourself.

 

[Jerry!]

So true.

Christianity is the only religion on here that I ever seen bashed mindlessly. Scientology is occasionally, but usually they just say "Oh it sucks" and move on.

Why do athiests even care to talk about Christianity if they truly don't believe it? What do they have to gain?

Because in America we have lost so much because of that religion molding our culture. Thats about as simple as I can put it. I guarantee you if it didn't have that kind of effect, it wouldn't be bashed nearly as much as it is. Thats why religions like Scientology aren't bashed all the time. Its no longer a question of it being right or wrong to believe in Christianity, its that our government, our supposed nation's leaders as a whole have taken that religion and it's rules into every American citizen's life whether they believe in it or not. People keep saying that they aren't against religion as long as it isn't forced on anyone. If you live in America, among other countries, you're having it forced on you in one way or another whether you like it or not. And right now its at a point where I don't see it changing ever. Its too late. We can't just undo generations worth of it shaping America overnight. It is too powerful now anyway. Thats why people are pissed off.