Revenge of the Sith Revenge of the Sith Apreciation Thread

[Lord]

Usually considered the best of the Prequels, on the good days it may be considered a good film, while on bad days it's hated and put alongside Episodes I and II.

What is your opinion on Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith?

Discuss

 

[HarryOsborn]

It's a more solid film than the other two prequels. Suffers from poor acting though. I never understood what was so wrong with Hayden's acting, but after trying to make a fan edit of the film and taking snippets it REALLY stood out to me. All around though it's a decent film, my only complaints are fanboy based.

 

[Bim]

I love ROTS. It's definitely my favorite one out of the PT, and it's second only to ANH, which sits firmly as the #1 SW movie for me.

My favorite aspect of it was Obi-Wan (of course lol). I found his story to be pretty darn interesting and compelling, even though i still gripe about the fact that Obi should have had Qui-Gon's role in TPM, but let's move on from that lol. Ewan transitioned so beautifully into Sir Alec's Ben, and that's why Kenobi sits now as my favorite SW character. Before it was Han Solo.

I also love Palpatine/Sidious. Ian to me was solid. Yes, even his over the top moment when confrontic Mace and later Yoda. He was a sith who had just come out of the closet so to speak, and was ready to gloat and let it all out.

Anakin/Vader was a sad transition. I could see why Anakin turned, and while the moment he turned was called rushed by some, to me that had been a long time coming. When they finally put the mask on him (such an amazing moment btw! still gives me chills when he takes his first breath) he was already one messed up individual. The PT showed me how a good person can take a wrong path. I had always thought of Vader as a bad guy, period. But knowing now he was good makes his story a lot more interesting to me. Minus a couple of weird moments, i thought Hayden sold Anakin's issues rather well, and i think he gets put down way more than he should be. But hey, everyone has their opinions and i'm fine with those who disagree with me.

Other highlights for me: Order 66, the entire opening sequence, the duel (of course), Boga (i loved that noisy little thing!), Yoda vs Sids, and of course the end. Hope despite the darkness that fills the galaxy.

 

[Duran Man]

Revenge of the Sith is my favourite of the six films, and one of my favourite films.

 

[BigSams50]

I love ROTS. My only gripe with it however, is how (in my opinion at least0, Anakins turn didnt really seem that organic. It just seems so forced. Maybe its bad acting on haydens part, or just the script itself.

 

[Bim]

 

[Lord]

This film was what got me into star wars when i was around 9 years old, i now see plenty of flaws, and while i still have a soft spot for some of it, i feel like all the Prequels had plenty of missed potential.

 

[Uncle Radiation]

i still gripe about the fact that Obi should have had Qui-Gon's role in TPM

Obi-Wan has to go from Padawan to Jedi to Jedi Master to show us the normal transition,so we can see how it goes wrong with Anakin.

 

[Uncle Radiation]

I love ROTS.

Me too.

Apart from the five lightsaber battles, the rise of the Emperor, the collapse of the senate, Anakin turning to the dark side, the improved Yoda CGI, generally better acting, loads of action, and a sense of danger and urgency the other prequels were missing....I love the ending, with Luke delivered to Owen and Beru. Star Wars ended where it started - in the middle.

 

[GothamAlleys]

Loved the movie, its my fantasy movie which I always wanted to be made since I was a kid and saw original trilogy in late 80s. I think its a great tragic story with terrific score and a very sad ending to the movie and the entire prequel saga. The Anaking Obi duel was too long to the point it started to drag. What did infuriate me in the theater is how fast Anakin gave up to Palpatine tho. When he went from shock/cry of "what have I done" almost instantly to "Ill do whatever you ask" I almost got up from my seat to shout "what!?". It was too rushed, but aside from that, loved it, warts and all

 

[Human Torch]

A lot of the problems people have with Anakin's "sudden" turn seems to stem from the fact that they expected him to be this "dark" kid,who would spend his spare time torturing Womp Rats with a lightsaber.

His turn to the Dark Side was against his very nature.That's what makes it tragic.He has no love for The Emperor,but he sold himself out.It was a means to an end,which backfired since he lost the woman he turned for,and lost most of his great abilities to living in a walking iron lung.

 

[Lord]

A lot of the problems people have with Anakin's "sudden" turn seems to stem from the fact that they expected him to be this "dark" kid,who would spend his spare time torturing Womp Rats with a lightsaber.

His turn to the Dark Side was against his very nature.That's what makes it tragic.He has no love for The Emperor,but he sold himself out.It was a means to an end,which backfired since he lost the woman he turned for,and lost most of his great abilities to living in a walking iron lung.

It's actualy the opposite, people expected him to be more heroic and likeable, not a kid who murdered sand kids in his spare time, and in the films he did have love for the emperor, they were pretty much buddies.

 

[Human Torch]

It's actualy the opposite, people expected him to be more heroic and likeable, not a kid who murdered sand kids in his spare time, and in the films he did have love for the emperor, they were pretty much buddies.

That kinda proves my point,on the one hand he had the rage within him to slaughter people,but he still was sensitive enough to realize he wasn't a stone cold killer by nature.

He wasn't exactly "buddies" with the Emperor.He was conspiring to have Luke team up with him to overthrow the Emperor.(Not to mention,the Emperor wasted no time in trying to replace Vader with Luke.)He was basically stuck with the Emperor when he played his hand against the Jedi and Obi Wan beat him in the dual.

 

[Lord]

I'm not sure what you mean? The problem in the prequels has been that Anakin has been way too psychotic before he turned into Darth Vader, making him seem like a monster way before his turn.

He was buddies with the Emperor in the Prequels, i know he was ready to bertray his master in the Originals if Luke had joined him.

 

[Human Torch]

I'm not sure what you mean? The problem in the prequels has been that Anakin has been way too psychotic before he turned into Darth Vader, making him seem like a monster way before his turn.
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Well,I'm just going by the complaints I've heard,myself.Most people act like "Anakin was a cute kid,then a whiny teen,not enough bad*** Jedi" which leads me to believe people wanted him to be the "bad cop" (which he kinda was) Force choking people left and right.

I don't know that I'd call him "psychotic",certainly troubled.The issue with the Sandpeople was an emotional trauma that made him "snap" and he never fully recovered after that.

 

[DA_Champion]

Yes, what I've heard is that the prequels were bad because Anakin became bad instantly having been plain good beforehand.

I think the prequels are fine, personally. They're not great, but I enjoy them, and a lot of stuff people think is great I think is ****.

 

[Lord]

I think The Clone Wars show was what his personality should have been like, a heroic warrior with some shades of the dark side, he could even be arrogant sometimes.

Kinda strange to see the CGI awkwardly put in the film, while Harry Potter 4 came out that same year and still looks realy good almost a decade later.

 

[Iceman]

It's a good film with some crap love scene dialogue, a disappointing General Grievous and most importantly most of its significance as what should have been the biggest film event of all time taken away by its predecessors (especially TPM for me). In other circumstances and with certain elements improved it could have really delivered as the culmination of such an epic story. Good effort given the starting point and Hayden Christensen was a lot better than in AOTC.

 

[Bim]

I think The Clone Wars show was what his personality should have been like, a heroic warrior with some shades of the dark side, he could even be arrogant sometimes.

But how many episodes of CW did we get that helped us see more of his personality though? Lots. I think the movies had a direction and a specific story to tell, and there wasnt much room for the little stories, battles and adventures that we saw in the show. I'm happy we got to see them in CW. I believe his characterization was very subtly implied in the movies at times, and a lot of it got lost in the midst of all the complaining.

My one wish is that we would have gotten to see the darker episodes in CW of events that led to ROTS. I've always had the impression that by the time we see Anakin in ROTS he was very troubled, so to me his turn didnt seem rushed. He was living a double life basically since he got married (living a lie like Padme said), and that took its toll, not to mention Palpatine whispering in his ear. Clone Wars helped me see i was on the right track. But i wish i would have had more.

 

[godisawesome]

Having watched the series in Machete Order (IV-V-II-III-VI), I want to argue that III is improved when watched in conjunction with II as a two-part flashback (I still like EI though).

I'd say that when you watch those as a two-part film, and not just the middle and end of a prequel trilogy, Anakin's fall becomes a master course in how to write a heroic protagonist turning evil. Christensen clearly had a more consistent direction and inspiration in Anakin's fall then in almost any other category of Anakin's portrayal.

The biggest improvement to III when you watch it immediately after II is that we start the film knowing that Anakin's already deeply compromised by the Sand People Massacre. We don't have the distraction of the purely innocent 9 year old from EI, and Palpatine's reminder of the event in the Invisible Hand immediately exposes Anakin's sometimes overlooked personality trait: he knows that what he did was wrong, so he's spending III convinced that he's not a good Jedi, not really.

Which makes Palpatine's seduction that much more brilliant.

Now, Anakin isn't just compelled by his selfish attachment to Padme, he's also guilt driven enough to look for a way to justify or erase his sins, because he hasn't had to atone for them. So when Palpatine starts defaming the Jedi to him, Anakin isn't looking at the Order as his friends and as his faith, he's looking at them as a reflection of himself.

It puts a whole new spin on:

"The Sith think inwardly only of themselves."

"And the Jedi don't?"

With Anakin's massacre and subsequent confession and emotional breakdown so fresh in the audience's mind, we know that in that instant, Anakin is seeing a way to view the Order not as something he's unworthy of, but as something that allowed him to be the way he is. It's their failings, not his. It's the ultimate cynicism motivator. and now that we know we're already looking at a child killer who knew what he did was wrong, we see the younglings massacre as just him applying his new world view after feeling he's no better than the Jedi are, and they're no better then him.

It even makes his "It is...too late for me, my son," line in ROTJ more powerful. Anakin knows that he's evil, and he can never really escape his own guilt, even when drunk on the darkside.

 

[Drizzle]

I can't believe it's going on ten years since the release of Revenge of the Sith. I remember the marketing blitz for this like it was yesterday. There was so much emphasis on it being the last Star Wars film ever. Little did we know then that an even larger beast would rear its head a decade later in the form of The Force Awakens, and it already seems like the hype train is dwarfing the attention given to Revenge of the Sith. For what it's worth, even after all this time, Revenge of the Sith is arguably the best of the prequels, and it comes the closest to feeling like the original trilogy. If The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones had the same tone as Revenge of the Sith, the prequel trilogy as a whole would probably be a lot more warmly received.

 

[Bim]

godisawesome: i havent seen it in that order. Might give it a try next time i have my SW marathon .

My god, 10 years!? time flies lol.

I also remember it as if it was yesterday. I must say my movie going experience with ROTS was probably the best one in my life. Saw it with an amazing crowd, and for me it delivered. There's scenes in it that to this day get to me, like Order 66, Kenobi's speech to Anakin on Mustafar as he burns and the lowering of Vader's mask and his first breath. Love the opening sequence too, oh, and i adore Boga lol.

Who knew that in 10 years i would be seeing a new SW movie! It was so bittersweet watching ROTS and thinking it was the last time i would see a new SW movie on the big screen.

 

[Lord]

The Force Awakens is getting crazy hype, but to be fair, Episode I had the biggest one so far, it was just insane, had people liked it more (not saying all the general public disliked it, but it certainly didn't impress people as much as other movies), i think it might have had a chance at reaching the heights of Titanic, with The Force Awakens i realy don't think they'll be able to challenge Avatar.

Regarding Revenge of the Sith, is it just me or there was a crazy improvement in the CGI from Episode II to III? Even then i think Lucas exagerated on its use a little too much, but the difference was still very noticeable.

 

[Bim]

Too soon to tell what the hype for episode 7 shall be, but it will be tough to get so such hype as TPM, i'll admit. Everyone and their entire family got caught up in it lol. I expect a lot of hype for episode 7 considering the big three are in it though, so the next few months will be very interesting and exciting, i think.

The CGI in ROTS is fantastic. Watching the blu-ray for me is quite the experience, because everything just looks so good and clear. I think it's still holding up well.

 

[Mad Ones]

I actually just rewatched the prequels. I remember liking III the most as a kid, but for the life of me I couldn't see why after my most recent viewing. It has all of the same problems of the other prequel movies and far too many wtf moments. It also desensitizes and oversaturates what makes Star Wars cool. I've yet to hear a convincing defence of these movies. But I guess this is an appreciation thread so I shouldn't be too negative.