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🇺🇸 Ridin’ with Biden: It's Joever

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Angry conservative white people don't constitute "a lot" of the United States population.

And for the people angry that their extended child tax credit is no longer there can thank Senator Joe Manchin and congressional Republicans for not codifying it permanently.
And they got Trump elected.
 
Because they vote more. We need to get the younger folks to the polls. :(

They came out to the polls in 2017, 2018, 2020 and last year (although I wish they came out in droves here in NC last year!). As long as we GOTV and make abortion the key issue in states like Wisconsin -- we'll continue to make strides.
 
And they got Trump elected.

That was a mixture of Russian interference, voter apathy/suppression and Trump winning a plurality of votes in MI, PA and WI in 2016.

People smartened up in 2020 and if Trump is back on the ballot next year, they're not going to sit 2024 out.
 
That was a mixture of Russian interference, voter apathy/suppression and Trump winning a plurality of votes in MI, PA and WI in 2016.

People smartened up in 2020 and if Trump is back on the ballot next year, they're not going to sit 2024 out.
Trump won't be on the ballot. DeSantis will be. You can quote me on that.
 
Trump won't be on the ballot. DeSantis will be. You can quote me on that.
I believe you. It's being reported that Trump is struggling to raise funds and he won't spend his own money for this. Polls I've seen show even Republicans don't want him. It will be DeSantis in the front for sure.
 
Even if the doesn't do a third party run, he will rave and rant about "stolen elections", killing GOP enthusiasm just enough to make it impossible for DeSantis to win.
 
Even if the doesn't do a third party run, he will rave and rant about "stolen elections", killing GOP enthusiasm just enough to make it impossible for DeSantis to win.
I certainly hope so. I'm not convinced DeSantis would be any worse than Trump for our country. Both want to March us closer to Fascism. :(
 
DeSantis getting traction reminds me how I stopped talking to a girl back when DeSantis was running for Governor vs Gillum. I told her DeSantis was a racist POS that will serve only white people, she got upset I made such claims and refused to acknowledge all his racist and hateful red flags.

I chuckle knowing I was right.
 
Judging off 2016, my bet is on some other person getting the final nomination

T***p will beat the piss out of DeSantis from now until the primaries, weakening him, and hopefully some indictment disqualifies T***p himself, leaving a Nikki Haley or one of those other a**holes to be the nominee
 
DeKlantis is worst because he lacks Trump's laziness and lack of attention span.

Even if he becomes the nominee, he won't be able to have the control over who comes to the debates and who can ask questions like he has as FL governor.

Remember when Biden visited FL for the Ian victims last year? RDS was all pouty and sulky while Biden was smiling, welcoming and talking to people.

And after how POTUS owned Rs last night, RDS is going to be easy fodder for the Biden campaign.
 
And they got Trump elected.
Not that it matters in an election, but he lost the popular vote every time he ran. His supporters are a large block of the vote for sure though.....I personally kind of hope he gets the nomination. I don't think he can beat Biden in a head to head showdown. I suspect if he doesn't get the nod, he'll run 3rd party and blow everything up.
 
Even if he becomes the nominee, he won't be able to have the control over who comes to the debates and who can ask questions like he has as FL governor.

Remember when Biden visited FL for the Ian victims last year? RDS was all pouty and sulky while Biden was smiling, welcoming and talking to people.

And after how POTUS owned Rs last night, RDS is going to be easy fodder for the Biden campaign.
Hope so. :)
 
Even if he becomes the nominee, he won't be able to have the control over who comes to the debates and who can ask questions like he has as FL governor.

Remember when Biden visited FL for the Ian victims last year? RDS was all pouty and sulky while Biden was smiling, welcoming and talking to people.

And after how POTUS owned Rs last night, RDS is going to be easy fodder for the Biden campaign.

The corpse of Charlie Crist took his ass to the cleaners in debates, he wouldn't last against a candidate that can actually debate, much less so against the the coke fueled troll that Trump is.
 
The corpse of Charlie Crist took his ass to the cleaners in debates, he wouldn't last against a candidate that can actually debate, much less so against the the coke fueled troll that Trump is.

RDS projects this scary, fascistic character but as you pointed out, he can't think on his feet when grilled on his record by unfriendly media. And his platform is not something you can just water down to win over swing states.

As long as voter turnout is equal or better than 2020, RDS is going to have a hard time unseating a popular incumbent President.
 
RDS projects this scary, fascistic character but as you pointed out, he can't think on his feet when grilled on his record by unfriendly media. And his platform is not something you can just water down to win over swing states.

As long as voter turnout is equal or better than 2020, RDS is going to have a hard time unseating a popular incumbent President.
But is Biden popular? Polls of both Dens and Republicans want Biden to step down and another Democrat to run in his place.
 
Trump won't be on the ballot. DeSantis will be. You can quote me on that.
Possibly true, but it's way too early to know. How many times have we seen the presumptive nominee fade when people find out they have the personality of a toad (and the toad has some tough competition with DeSantis)? Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton came out of nowhere and Bill's wife was the presumptive nominee in 2008. You might be right, but people can go from 0 to 100 in the primaries and, unfortunately, a lot of it is based on personality.
 

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