Superman Returns Rob Liefield wagers on Superman success

[Supermanila]

http://herorealm.com/hrboards/index.php?topic=7801.60

Cars brought in 62 million. Much less than its predecessors. Ice Age 2 opened to 80 million 2 months back. Pixar needs an editor to start scaling back their bloated movies. Incredibles needed a 10 minute trim, Cars needs like a 20 minute trim. It's like 2 hrs long.

X3 brought in 123 million in 4 days. 201 mill in 17 days. Someone has lost perspective. Superman will not do that number from Friday to Monday. It'll do well but X3 was a freakin' monster.

If you'd like to wager on opening weekends, X3 vs Supes, I'll take all your cash right now, just hand it over.

And 10 days after Superman opens it runs into the juggernaut that I expect to be the biggest movie of the summer, Pirates 2. Warners moved Supes up 2 days in order to create more earning potential for Supes in between Pirates opening. By then X3 will have made 230-40 million bucks. X3 benefits from running from Memorial Day to 4th of July when all movies clean up and add to their totals.

he said this about a month ago:
http://herorealm.com/hrboards/index.php?topic=7801.30

Chris,

I'll take your money too. Superman will not resonate with kids. Marvel will continue to steal this generations young fans. Now before I'm homered, remember, I created the most successful spin-off of Superman. I love and adore the character. The Warner Bros. people dropped the ball on this film. I have no doubt that the film will be excellent as far as 37 year old Rob Liefeld goes. I will love it for everything it is, which from the looks of it is very respectful to the Donner films. I like Brandon Roushe?? I like Spacey, Singer is solid, I just wanted to see a Superman movie that grabbed my sons and all their friends and all young kids around the world by the nuts and made him an unstoppable force in all platforms.

That didn't happen.

They should have made the excellent, excellent J.J. Abrams script. That script is the single best, most amazing Superman story ever written. It would have had you pumped and leaving the theatre walking ten feet tall. It was imaginative and action packed with multiple big budget threats. Watching MI:3, the best of the MI films, I wished J.J. would have been granted his wish to direct Superman.

Instead, Warner Bros. did their typical let's steal from Marvel bit, Singer did X-Men, they made money, so let's get a proven comic book guy stolen from Marvel and he'll restore our franchise. Sorry, I have nev er pined for a " I've never felt comfortable on Earth-I'm lonely- You don't know how hard it is bein' me" Superman flick. It looks like it will be more about Luthor than Supes at this point.

Warner's played the safe hand, judging by the terrible, awful, sub-par for anyone Superman merchandise that has hit the stores, I think the movie will play really soft. I'll love it and continue to get my pals interested
in seeing it, but it went for the single, not the home run.

Now I'm not really familiar with Liefield, but I gather he's a comic book artist...I think these are some of his works:

Is Captain America's chest... normal?

 

[sf2]

He Is Marvel's Diehard Fan. Period.

 

[Ita-KalEl]

I have friends that are very good italian comicbooks writers and artists (even famous) and they say that Rob Liefield, with his style, has contributed to ruin the market.

 

[Admiral_N8]

"Watching MI:3, the best of the MI films, I wished J.J. would have been granted his wish to direct Superman."


HAHAHAHA.....well its good to hear I dont have to take him seriously after he said that.

 

[Ita-KalEl]

like Brandon Roushe?? I like Spacey, Singer is solid, I just wanted to see a Superman movie that grabbed my sons and all their friends and all young kids around the world by the nuts and made him an unstoppable force in all platforms.

That didn't happen.

He is right
Infact it's going to happen..

 

[Elijya]

leaving everything else about Rob aside (and there's ALOT to leave aside) he is just stating his opinion, and doing it pretty articulately and politely, and I think he makes some valid points

(although he just HAD to sneak in "remember, I created the most successful spin-off of Superman". Supreme? Shyeah, right. Only reason anyone gave a **** about him (for five whole minutes) is because you got Alan Moore to write him. YOU had nothing to do with it.)

 

[Octoberist]

I have to say this: Rob Liefield's art is ugly. I know everyone has a distant style and some can be an aquired taste, but honest to GOD...Rob can't draw crap. UGLY. My opinion, of coursE!

 

[IKnowSomeJudo]

Is Captain America's chest... normal?

 

[charl_huntress]

He Is Marvel's Diehard Fan. Period.

Obviously...I wouldn't take anything those dudes said seriously, but the person who is willing to bet with them them is surely in for some cash.

As for the artwork, I'm not familiar with him, but it doesn't look that bad. I'm not an art conniseur, so maybe I don't have a critical enough eye. Though, the work is very stylized, and it looks unnatural...not fluid...if that makes any sense.

Anyway, I'm getting damn tired of Marvel fans trying to take their hate over X3 out on SR. They know they would have had a better movie if Singer had stayed on, but tough luck he didn't. They need to get over it.

 

[Supermanila]

I really have nothing against this guy, but frankly, I do think SR will beat X3's numbers easily... I mean, it did really well on its opening weekend, but it took quite some time (17 days) to get to $200million considering it's 4 day opening of 120million.

Spider-man 2 and SW Ep3 took 8 days to get to $200.
Spider-man took 9.
HP Goblet of Fire took 10.
Shrek 2, Matrix 2 and LOTR3 took 11.
Passion of the Christ, SW Ep2 and LOTR2 took 12 days.
SW Ep1 took 13.
HP Sorceror's Stone took 15.

I think most except SW Ep3 made less in its opening weekend than X3, and yet they passed through $200 faster than X3 did.

I would even go as far as to say that SR "might" even make $200 in 7 days... because technically, it has a 7-day opening weekend going for it when it opens on Wednesday all through the 4th of July. But if not, I'm pretty sure it will hit $200 in less than 17 days

 

[Steelsheen]

maybe the reason for X3's slow down was due to word of mouth? i mean a film's not half as inviting if most of the major characters kicks the bucket at the end of the story.

 

[charl_huntress]

Yeah, X3 didn't get any good buzz IMO. I remember when I left X2, I called my boyfriend who was at work and told him that was the most awesome movie and as soon as he got off we needed to go back.

I wasn't even close to excited when I left X3.

 

[Nivek]

Does anyone really care what this posers opinion is compared to... well... anyone else opinion? I think I give the cleaning crew at my job more credit to their opinion about Superman than this guy (who's motto should be "Human Anatomy is a drawback to an artists style").

 

[Steelsheen]

yeah, most of the conversations prolly went like this:

DUDE: hey i just came from X3
GUY: cool! so how was it?
DUDE: uh.... everybody died.


think the guy will rush to go see it? i dont think so

 

[Octoberist]

Haha...that's how I explained X3 to a bud who didn't see it yet! "Everyone died..the end." LOL.

 

[Matt]

Is Captain America's chest... normal?

Aside from giving Captain America man-boobs his work isn't bad.

 

[Octoberist]

What the hell was Liefield thinking when he did that ugly Captain America? Seriously. It's not even 'abstract art'.

Did he think that people won't notice? Did he think "I think that looks great". I don't understand.

 

[Matt]

leaving everything else about Rob aside (and there's ALOT to leave aside) he is just stating his opinion, and doing it pretty articulately and politely, and I think he makes some valid points

(although he just HAD to sneak in "remember, I created the most successful spin-off of Superman". Supreme? Shyeah, right. Only reason anyone gave a **** about him (for five whole minutes) is because you got Alan Moore to write him. YOU had nothing to do with it.)

You should know better Elijya, this guy voiced an opinion that people disagree with so he is either an idiot, a marvel fan boy, a bad artist, whatever. Damn hater

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

Now before I'm homered, remember, I created the most successful spin-off of Superman.

?? Supreme? It's a rip-off not a spin-off.

 

[charl_huntress]

You should know better Elijya, this guy voiced an opinion that people disagree with so he is either an idiot, a marvel fan boy, a bad artist, whatever. Damn hater

I think in this instance Matt...he's clearly a Marvel supporter.

 

[IKnowSomeJudo]

You should know better Elijya, this guy voiced an opinion that people disagree with so he is either an idiot, a marvel fan boy, a bad artist, whatever.

He is all those things, regardless of his views on SR.

 

[IKnowSomeJudo]

?? Supreme? It's a rip-off not a spin-off.

Not to mention it's hardly the most succesful Superman rip-off. Altough, it is one of the best (Moore's run on the character, that is).

 

[Nivek]

Aside from giving Captain America man-boobs his work isn't bad.

Your right, it's complete a$$. So much so that I heard he's fired inkers for "fixing" his work in the past. You know, because even exaggerated superhero artwork has basic limitations, like not making thigh muscles 36" and male chests 86" around, and giving everyone size 8 feet. The guy is a horrible artist, HORRIBLE.

 

[super85]

Aside from giving Captain America man-boobs his work isn't bad.

*shudder*

*shudder*

how many fingers?

 

[IKnowSomeJudo]

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