Robert Downey Jr. Is Doom - "Same task, new mask"

[Spider-Fan]

This was the way.



I still think these announcements are forthcoming…

But god knows now. Evans could be anyone. Maybe he is Apocalypse! Or Magneto! Or the Champion! Or the In-Betweener! If RDJ can be Dr Doom, then they can just do whatever crap

 

[Comicbookguy339]

God I should hope not.

Doom can often be an anti-hero of sorts. Even in the 2015 Secret Wars comic by Hickman he's trying to save what can be saved when the incursions happen. The problem with Doom is that he also wants to be the ruler of all that is left.

 

[Arachnerd]

Oh I'm aware. I just think the redemption arc here would be a colossal mistake.

But casting RDJ as Doom is already a colossal mistake, so they might just do that, I dunno. Everything's possible now, Feige has thrown all caution to the wind.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Also, I see the term "big swing" used a lot. Yall....this isn't a big swing. A big swing is a risky move that has high risk or reward. Hiring RDJ in this role isn't risky. It's in fact risk adverse. Its the safest possible move they could have made. They didn't swing for a home run.

 

[Venom 1988]

Also, I see the term "big swing" used a lot. Yall....this isn't a big swing. A big swing is a risky move that has high risk or reward. Hiring RDJ in this role isn't risky. It's in fact risk adverse. Its the safest possible move they could have made. They didn't swing for a home run.

Exactly they could have brought RDJ back as Sleepwalker and it would have generated the same amount of hype. People care about this news cause RDJ is back, not because Doom is casted.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Also, I see the term "big swing" used a lot. Yall....this isn't a big swing. A big swing is a risky move that has high risk or reward. Hiring RDJ in this role isn't risky. It's in fact risk adverse. Its the safest possible move they could have made. They didn't swing for a home run.

I'm not sure I agree with this. I think a lot of casual fans want to see RDJ play Iron Man and not a villain. One of the reasons why Multiverse of Madness was controversial had to do with the way they treated Wanda's character. And if this casting decision doesn't work then everyone will be saying "I told you so" until the end of time.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Exactly they could have brought RDJ back as Sleepwalker and it would have generated the same amount of hype. People care about this news cause RDJ is back, not because Doom is casted.

When RDJ was cast as Stark back when IM1 was being made, THAT was a big swing. That was a real risk. This isn't

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'm not sure I agree with this. I think a lot of casual fans want to see RDJ play Iron Man and not a villain. One of the reasons why Multiverse of Madness was controversial had to do with the way they treated Wanda's character. And if this casting decision doesn't work then everyone will be saying "I told you so" until the end of time.

They're not casting RDJ for us. They're doing it for the casuals. Your casual audience member who doesnt know much about Doom will just say "evil Iron Man, wuuuuuuuuh" and it will make money. This is a safe as Apple Pie on July 4th.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

They're not casting RDJ for us. They're doing it for the casuals. Ypur casual audience member who doesnt know much about Doom will just say "evil Iron Man, wuuuuuuuuh" and it will make money. This is a safe as Apple Pie on July 4th.

But what I'm saying is that the casual audience wants RDJ as the Tony Stark they know and love. Him playing the villain might not go down as well with the GA as you might think.

 

[Spider-Fan]

But what I'm saying is that the casual audience wants RDJ as the Tony Stark they know and love. Him playing the villain might not go down as well with the GA as you might think.

Doesn't matter what he is playing, it's RDJ. Marvel is banking on the casual audiences love for Iron Man to carry this to billions. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. This is the safest possible move on the chess board

 

[Venom 1988]

I'm not sure I agree with this. I think a lot of casual fans want to see RDJ play Iron Man and not a villain. One of the reasons why Multiverse of Madness was controversial had to do with the way they treated Wanda's character. And if this casting decision doesn't work then everyone will be saying "I told you so" until the end of time.

It was controversial because it was the same Wanda. Her character development had shifted dramatically from one project to the next. This not the same as casting RDJ as a different character.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Doesn't matter what he is playing, it's RDJ. Marvel is banking on the casual audiences love for Iron Man to carry this to billions. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. This is the safest possible move on the chess board

They're banking on it, yes, but it's not like everything RDJ is in turns into a hit because people just like him so much. People love RDJ as Tony Stark. That's it.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Drizzle]

RDJ bringing this energy to Doom:

Doom is gonna play the sax intro to "Baker Street" on that magic conch and we're all gonna have to sit there and watch it happen.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I'm a little surprised by the outrage over this.

Is he FFs Doom or just a variant that is conquering the Multiverse? Is he the last Doom we'll get?

 

[Comicbookguy339]

I'm a little surprised by the outrage over this.

Is he FFs Doom or just a variant that is conquering the Multiverse? Is he the last Doom we'll get?

Some people have suggested that we'll get another Doom later down the line but how do you follow up RDJ just a few years later? The performance will no doubt be iconic and it will define the character for a generation of moviegoers. Now imagine asking any actor worth their salt to play the "real" Doom in the FF sequel.

 

[Arachnerd]

This guy's tweets are always notoriously cringeworthy. This is no exception.

 

[lenz]

Also, I see the term "big swing" used a lot. Yall....this isn't a big swing. A big swing is a risky move that has high risk or reward. Hiring RDJ in this role isn't risky. It's in fact risk adverse. Its the safest possible move they could have made. They didn't swing for a home run.

They're not casting RDJ for us. They're doing it for the casuals. Your casual audience member who doesnt know much about Doom will just say "evil Iron Man, wuuuuuuuuh" and it will make money. This is a safe as Apple Pie on July 4th.

This is the line of thinking that makes it a risk. It only reinforces the growing sentiment of creative bankruptcy within their own audience, which is amplified in every comment section, tweet, message board and YouTube channel daily. The idea
this announcement would make everything right in the world of Marvel again shows how diconnected they truly are. The biggest, easily most relevant, franchise they have at the moment was inherited from FOX. The creative force behind that is Ryan Reynolds and friends.

 

[Spider-Fan]

They're banking on it, yes, but it's not like everything RDJ is in turns into a hit because people just like him so much. People love RDJ as Tony Stark. That's it.

Exactly. Hence why they're bringing him back. They want RDJ back in the fold to sell tickets. Cause he is Marvel's little blue blanket they take everywhere like Linus in Peanuts

 

[Spider-Fan]

This is the line of thinking that makes it a risk. It only reinforces the growing sentiment of creative bankruptcy within their own audience, which is amplified in every comment section, tweet, message board and YouTube channel daily. The idea
this announcement would make everything right in the world of Marvel again shows how diconnected they truly are. The biggest, easily most relevant, franchise they have at the moment was inherited from FOX. The creative force behind that is Ryan Reynolds and friends.

Being creatively bankruptcy isn't a risk, lol! Your casual movie goer isn't going to care that they did the least interesting version of Doctor Doom that we could have gotten. All they will see is RDJ's name on a poster. It's laughably risk adverse

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Exactly. Hence why they're bringing him back. They want RDJ back in the fold to sell tickets. Cause he is Marvel's little blue blanket they take everywhere like Linus in Peanuts

RDJ being back in a different role can definitely boost opening weekend, no doubt about it, but I don't think it's a safe bet that audiences will react positively to him playing a bad guy in an Avengers movie.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Some people have suggested that we'll get another Doom later down the line but how do you follow up RDJ just a few years later? The performance will no doubt be iconic and it will define the character for a generation of moviegoers. Now imagine asking any actor worth their salt to play the "real" Doom in the FF sequel.

Idk, i like RDJ but ill be surprised if his Doom is as iconic as Stark. Everyone will be comparing him to Ironman. A new Doom could easily outshine him

 

[Spider-Fan]

Some people have suggested that we'll get another Doom later down the line but how do you follow up RDJ just a few years later? The performance will no doubt be iconic and it will define the character for a generation of moviegoers. Now imagine asking any actor worth their salt to play the "real" Doom in the FF sequel.

They're not replacing the villain of their biggest crossover since Endgame with another version. People need to get used to the fact that this is the slice of Doom Pie we are getting. This is it

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Idk, i like RDJ but ill be surprised if his Doom is as iconic as Stark. Everyone will be comparing him to Ironman. A new Doom could easily outshine him

I mean, one could also argue that you can make a more faithful adaptation of The Lord of the Rings trilogy but ain't nobody touching those movies for a long time.

 

[Drizzle]

Doesn't matter what he is playing, it's RDJ. Marvel is banking on the casual audiences love for Iron Man to carry this to billions. Otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. This is the safest possible move on the chess board

And the reaction in Hall H only reinforced it.

I'd have sold my soul to see the look on Feige's face if RDJ had revealed himself to total confused silence in that room.