Robert Pattinson IS The Batman

[Eddie Dean]

 

[Iceman]

In the age where all of the major superhero actors are hyper-handsome dudes that look like they're in their physical peak, I don't quite think that casting a regular guy looking, semi balding comedian that's quite petite as freaking playboy billionaire Bruce Wayne, peak human Batman would fly nowadays.

Pattinson may not be that big, but at least the dude is tall and his face looks the part.

I personally prefer certain heroes to be played by actors who either were already in great shape or got into great shape for the role. In the case of Bruce Wayne (and not with all superheroes) I’d also prefer him to be a good-looking dude. Keaton was still an amazing Batman for his time regardless but it’s a bit harder to mask the difference when he’s playing Bruce Wayne. It would probably be a lot harder to cast a young Keaton now even though we all know he’s a great actor.

 

[Invader Joker]

What exactly are you trying to prove here?

Keaton did not make the sort of transformation Chris Pratt did. Chris Pratt used to be fat but as soon as he slimmed down and got fit for Star Lord he looked great.
Keaton in fact didn't make any transformation period lol. And even if he did, his face and height.

 

[Invader Joker]

I personally prefer certain heroes to be played by actors who either were already in great shape or got into great shape for the role. In the case of Bruce Wayne (and not with all superheroes) I’d also prefer him to be a good-looking dude. Keaton was still an amazing Batman for his time regardless but it’s a bit harder to mask the difference when he’s playing Bruce Wayne. It would probably be a lot harder to cast a young Keaton now even though we all know he’s a great actor.

Yeah. I don't think anyone wants Batman to seem like the ugly duck compared to other superheroes.

Not saying Keaton is particularly ugly, but if you compare it to pretty much every other superhero on screen nowadays... well.

 

[Iceman]

If Pratt and even comedian Kumail Nanjiani can do it, a tall young guy carrying little fat cast as Batman can too, so hopefully we’ll see Pattinson make more changes as he appears in more films. It’s funny as I don’t think getting in shape was that important for the roles played by those other guys.

I think Hugh Jackman would have played Wolverine really well even if he didn’t get into such good shape. It just enhanced it for me that he did, and because he kept it up throughout, it meant he was like an ambassador for the role even between films. I really liked that aspect.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Ok, wanna go with the example of the until very recently uninsurable ex-junkie who hadn’t headlined a film in twenty years as Iron Man instead?

 

[Iceman]

Yeah. I don't think anyone wants Batman to seem like the ugly duck compared to other superheroes.

Not saying Keaton is particularly ugly, but if you compare it to pretty much every other superhero on screen nowadays... well.

Yeah, Keaton wasn’t ugly. It’s more that being handsome seems like a distinguishable character trait of Batman and linked to his Bruce Wayne playboy persona, more so than for many other heroes. Again, like with Ledger, visual differences become minor when you get a performance that blows you away.

 

[Invader Joker]

Yeah, Keaton wasn’t ugly. It’s more that being handsome seems like a distinguishable character trait of Batman and linked to his Bruce Wayne playboy persona, more so than for many other heroes. Again, like with Ledger, visual differences become minor when you get a performance that blows you away.

But with Ledger they added makeup on him to make him look creepy and significantly less handsome, with Joker appearance is less of a problem because you can get creative with the design of the makeup.

 

[Invader Joker]

Ok, wanna go with the example of the until very recently uninsurable ex-junkie who hadn’t headlined a film in twenty years as Iron Man instead?

Terrible example because he completely looked the part of Tony Stark.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Did he?

 

[Invader Joker]

Did he?

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When properly groomed and taken care of he did as we clearly saw since the first Iron Man.

No matter how much you groom or take care of Michael Keaton he's not gonna look like Bruce Wayne as we clearly saw in his two Batman movies.

The fact you can't even think of a single superhero actor that's not a sort a really handsome, sex symbol type of guy pretty much proves my point.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Paul Rudd?

Tobey Maguire?

Benedict Cumberbatch?

Mark Ruffalo?

Don Cheadle?

Hasn’t played a superhero yet, but, the by your words, very ugly, Adam Driver is maybe the biggest male star right now. And has a lot of fan suggestions for different roles.

 

[Invader Joker]

Paul Rudd?

Tobey Maguire?

Benedict Cumberbatch?

Mark Ruffalo?

Don Cheadle?

Hasn’t played a superhero yet, but, the by your words, very ugly, Adam Driver is maybe the biggest male star right now. And has a lot of fan suggestions for different roles.

Tobey Maguire hasn't played Spider-Man in 12 years and he got cast 19 years ago.

Benedict is considered handsome by a lot of people especially when he has the Doctor Strange beard. Also he looks the part as Doctor Strange in a way that Keaton never did as Bruce.

Mark Ruffalo is not a lead.

Don Cheadle is also not a lead.

Paul Rudd is handsome.

Adam Driver is not playing any superhero and he's most popularly fancast as villains (Joker, Scarecrow)

 

[TMP98]

The best actor to ever be cast as Superman is still Nic Cage

 

[TMP98]

Keaton did not make the sort of transformation Chris Pratt did. Chris Pratt used to be fat but as soon as he slimmed down and got fit for Star Lord he looked great.

Sports science has changed a lot since the 80's, it's easier to get actors in shape now than it was back then. If Keaton had the kind of resources that Pratt has now, he would have gone through a bigger transformation

 

[Invader Joker]

Sports science has changed a lot since the 80's, it's easier to get actors in shape now than it was back then. If Keaton had the kind of resources that Pratt has now, he would have gone through a bigger transformation

Still wouldn't matter because of his face and height. Pratt's problem was never his face

 

[TMP98]

Still wouldn't matter because of his face and height.

But you complained about his physique, not his face/height lol. The latter's also an incredibly moot point. Apple boxes? Lift boots? Not that hard.

 

[Invader Joker]

But you complained about his physique, not his face/height lol. The latter's also an incredibly moot point. Apple boxes? Lift boots? Not that hard.

I've been talking about his face on top of the many other factors around him, Eddie is the one that brought up the physical transformation aspect which doesn't matter in Keaton's case.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Downey is shorter than Keaton.

 

[TMP98]

Downey is shorter than Keaton.

I guess that makes Iron Man canonically shorter than Batman then

 

[Eddie Dean]

I've been talking about his face on top of the many other factors around him, Eddie is the one that brought up the physical transformation aspect which doesn't matter in Keaton's case.

Not physical transform, but unlikely choices for the role.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Still wouldn't matter because of his face and height. Pratt's problem was never his face

Pratt pre steroids looks like every other guy at the bar on Saturday night. He only got those chiseled cheekbones and square jaw after major weight loss.

 

[Invader Joker]

Pratt pre steroids looks like every other guy at the bar on Saturday night. He only got those chiseled cheekbones and square jaw after major weight loss.

No one looks super handsome while fat, but if you're already quite handsome when you have an average physique you're still gonna look handsome when muscular.

Also, I was still talking about Keaton's face as the main factor against him.

You could probably cast someone like... idk Jack O'Connell, have him have the exact same physique he had in Skins and he'd be somewhat accepted in this environment.

Keaton I don't see him getting accepted as playing one of the world's most popular superheroes nowadays.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Also, you guys see Desperate Measures? Keaton totally can have the body.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Keaton would be acclaimed as an interesting, unique choice by most and derided by a small vocal minority. His reception would probably be far warmer now than it was back then.