Robert Pattinson IS The Batman

[Invader Joker]

I ****ing hate how he looks. It really irritates me, man. He's supposed to look like the most dangerous man in Gotham, let alone the DC universe. And that's the only thing I demand. For the actor to look muscular and imposing. Do whatever batsuit and story and whatever else you like then. But just give me a Bruce Wayne actor that looks the part. Otherwise all the illusion is broken. To me, it feels like you spit on the character when you don't put the work in and care about that aspect. ****... And here I'd thought months ago leading up to it that he'd be like the Jim Lee BW come to life... At the end of day, I just can't see Pattinson being the BW/Bats that I see in the comics, video games, animation. And goddamn I've tried. That connection is lost. It really sucks...

And goddamn he had all the ****ing time in the world. He was cast last May ffs... He had a whole 7 ****ing months, more than most superhero actors ever before their first rodeo. He could have ABSOLUTELY have that Henry Cavill Superman physique or the best Chris Evans Captain America shape. If he started right after he was cast: EASILY!
Man, WB, Reeves and Pattinson really piss me off with this. They really didn't get it...

Btw @emielaen I finally saw Seven Samurai. What a masterpiece, such a beautiful film and it's so entertaining at that. Could even be my favorite film now. Ikiru was also great. I'm definitely going to be seeing all of Kurosawa's films.

He didn't have "all the time in the world". He was shooting Tenet which wrapped in mid November. The Batman started doing pre shoots in January 5th and started official filming in January 28th. So he actually had very very little time. A month and a half which is considerably less than what most superhero actors get.

Also. You can't really judge how his physique is based on a picture of him with a jacket going for some groceries. He has a leaner build, that wasn't gonna change unless he trained intensively for a year which he couldn't. How ripped or defined he is we don't know yet.

The person that leaked the No More Lies picture said he looked buff on set and was under a strict non stop eating diet. So I trust those reports.

 

[TonyDiego]

He didn't have "all the time in the world". He was shooting Tenet which wrapped in mid November. The Batman started doing pre shoots in January 5th and started official filming in January 28th. So he actually had very very little time.

Yes he did. WB had a problem. Have their goddamn Batman actor start training for Batman and suffer some minor continuity issues with him being a supporting character on Tenet, or just do Nolan another favor. They choose the latter. They could have flew down to Robert's place a trainer last May right after he was cast. They didn't.
And many superhero actors have trained for their DC or Marvel roles while shooting other movies. Ben Affleck did so during Gone Girl. The film did just fine with him bulking for Batman and being the lead. He looked great, in fact.
So the whole 7 or 8 month thing that I mentioned absolutely stands. Such a shame...

Also. You can't really judge how his physique is based on a picture of him with a jacket. He has a leaner build, that wasn't gonna change unless he trained intensively for a year which he couldn't. How ripped or defined he is we don't know yet.

Yes I can. You can too and you hate to admit it. And you can give him a break on his legs department because actors struggle with that bodypart because a lot of hard work and time is needed to bring it up, but his upper body posture and muscularity should have been there. We would have noticed him being wider on the shoulders if he had any back development. His chest area would have been filled up and stood proud. His shoulders and arms would have stood out more, etc...

The person that leaked the No More Lies picture said he looked buff on set and was under a strict non stop eating diet. So I trust those reports.

It's too late for that. He's not going to build any muscle with 14 hour filming schedules, plus working out on top. You can't recover and grow from that. Unless you are enhanced. Supehero actors shrink down as filming commences into the months due to being overworked and becoming chronically tired (Chris Evans used to quit working out altogether during the last month of a Marvel shoot).

Even with the 3 month prep that he had, Pattinson should have done a beginner Test cycle if he had any dedication for the role. Obviously he didn't.

 

[Captain Tired]

Man. Who knew posting in a Robert Pattinson Batman thread would be this intense.

 

[Invader Joker]

Yes he did. WB had a problem. Have their goddamn Batman actor start training for Batman and suffer some minor continuity issues with him being a supporting character on Tenet, or just do Nolan another favor. They choose the latter. They could have flew down to Robert's place a trainer last May right after he was cast. They didn't.
And many superhero actors have trained for their DC or Marvel roles while shooting other movies. Ben Affleck did so during Gone Girl. The film did just fine with him bulking for Batman and being the lead. He looked great, in fact.
So the whole 7 or 8 month thing that I mentioned absolutely stands. Such a shame...

Yes I can. You can too and you hate to admit it. And you can give him a break on his legs department because actors struggle with that bodypart because a lot of hard work and time is needed to bring it up, but his upper body posture and muscularity should have been there. We would have noticed him being wider on the shoulders if he had any back development. His chest area would have been filled up and stood proud. His shoulders and arms would have stood out more, etc...

I mean. Not necessarily. It depends on the size of the jacket and how it fits him. He's obviously not bulky but we can't tell how defined the muscles he already has are.

I'd have loved for Robert to transform more radically. But you're kinda overreacting here.

They weren't going to screw Nolan over and it's also very likely that on the intense shooting of Tenet Pattinson just didn't have time to train period. There are too many factors to take into consideration. If he had gone through the intense training you're describing during Tenet it'd have been more than obvious in the movie because he'd have changed drastically from one scene to the other.

 

[TonyDiego]

Nothing that screams weak or not being "masculine" to me from that gif of him in Tenet (looking as Bruce Wayne would)

He doesn't fill the suit. He won't be filling those Bruce Wayne suits either. He's going to wind up being the lankiest BW of all. Not sure how the costume designer will adress that...

And you guys have no idea how INSANE Pattinson would look with 25 pounds of muscle in him...
You think his jaw looks good now (and it does, and it's the only thing that will save him from utter ridiculment), but that muscle weight would have turned his face into the Bruce Wayne from the Jim Lee comics. Insanely idealised. And couple his good looks with a muscular stature, man, what BW/BATMAN aesthetic goodness we missed on... It's criminal.

 

[TonyDiego]

Man. Who knew posting in a Robert Pattinson Batman thread would be this intense.

We are all passionate about Batman. The actor playing the character that we love carries in him our collective passion for the character. We project onto him our wishes for adapting the aspects that we love from the comics, animation and video games (at least I do). It's not hard to understand.

 

[Invader Joker]

He doesn't fill the suit. He won't be filling those Bruce Wayne suits either. He's going to wind up being the lankiest BW of all. Not sure how the costume designer will adress that...

Every single Batman of the 90s was by far more lanky than Pattinson.

 

[TonyDiego]

I mean. Not necessarily. It depends on the size of the jacket and how it fits him. He's obviously not bulky but we can't tell how defined the muscles he already has are.

It's obviously not an oversized jacket. It's his fit. He won't have much of any muscle maturity or hardness. At best he will look like those shirtless beach photos from a couple years back. And that's if he'll be lean enough...
Here's Henry Cavill wearing something similar to get the idea:

Obviously Henry was pumped for the scene, but you can understand that the jacket he wears doesn't hide his general size.

They weren't going to screw Nolan over and it's also very likely that on the intense shooting of Tenet Pattinson just didn't have time to train period. There are too many factors to take into consideration. If he had gone through the intense training you're describing during Tenet it'd have been more than obvious in the movie because he'd have changed drastically from one scene to the other.

They could have looked over his calories, not add any drastic weight and make it easier for the editing there, but they could have still built a foundation and some muscle that he would then blast on from in the end. And he has a very defined face, adding some more definition wouldn't have thrown audiences off too much, if at all. They could have worked something.
But at the end of the day, they cared more about a supporting character's continuty than their new Batman that's set to launch of their most worthy franchise. Horrible choice. Don't defend it.
And he definitely had more time on Tenet to train than he does on Batman to train.

 

[Invader Joker]

It's obviously not an oversized jacket. It's his fit. He won't have much of any muscle maturity or hardness. At best he will look like those shirtless beach photos from a couple years back. And that's if he'll be lean enough...

If there's something I've learned about Robert Pattinson all these months is that he always chooses the most awful casual clothing that don't favor his look at all.

 

[TonyDiego]

Every single Batman of the 90s was by far more lanky than Pattinson.

Absolutely 100% not true.

Pattinson looks like Mazzucchellil's Year One Batman at best... And I hate that artistic interpretation of the character. Too skinny and unimposing. And it's an outlier; the skinniest the character has even been in the comics as far as I know. And we have seen better visual Year One interpretations of the character, like in Zero Year from Greg Cappulo who draws him like he should for even a BW that's just setting up in Gotham.

 

[Invader Joker]

Absolutely 100% not true.

Pattinson looks like Mazzucchellil's Year One Batman at best... And I hate that artistic interpretation of the character. Too skinny and unimposing. And it's an outlier; the skinniest the character has even been in the comics as far as I know. And we have seen better visual Year One interpretations of the character, like in Zero Year from Greg Cappulo who draws him like he should for even a BW that's just setting up in Gotham.

I was talking actors dude

 

[TonyDiego]

I was talking actors dude

I knew you knew your comics better than that; was wondering why you'd say something like that... And goes to show how little I care about 90s live action Batmen, lol...

 

[Gothamsknight]

Seeing people get so mad that he's not "huge" is kinda funny because Batman was not always big in the comics and he's had iterations where he was slim, such as the neal Adams run. It's getting tiring seeing people bash this guy for every little thing. I don't want him to be bulked and huge like Affleck, or Evans. I want him to be the weight that fits this version of the character. As I said, not EVERY version was huge.

The pattinson bashing is getting annoying now.

 

[Whatupman]

I ****ing hate how he looks. It really irritates me, man. He's supposed to look like the most dangerous man in Gotham, let alone the DC universe. And that's the only thing I demand. For the actor to look muscular and imposing. Do whatever batsuit and story and whatever else you like then. But just give me a Bruce Wayne actor that looks the part. Otherwise all the illusion is broken. To me, it feels like you spit on the character when you don't put the work in and care about that aspect. ****... And here I'd thought months ago leading up to it that he'd be like the Jim Lee BW come to life... At the end of day, I just can't see Pattinson being the BW/Bats that I see in the comics, video games, animation. And goddamn I've tried. That connection is lost. It really sucks...

And goddamn he had all the ****ing time in the world. He was cast last May ffs... He had a whole 7 ****ing months, more than most superhero actors ever before their first rodeo. He could have ABSOLUTELY have that Henry Cavill Superman physique or the best Chris Evans Captain America shape. If he started right after he was cast: EASILY!
Man, WB, Reeves and Pattinson really piss me off with this. They really didn't get it...

Btw @emielaen I finally saw Seven Samurai. What a masterpiece, such a beautiful film and it's so entertaining at that. Could even be my favorite film now. Ikiru was also great. I'm definitely going to be seeing all of Kurosawa's films.

 

[Holiday]

Every single Batman of the 90s was by far more lanky than Pattinson.
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As lanky? Possibly. But "far more lanky" that Pattinson is looking at the moment? I gotta disagree. At worst, i think people would have to admit Val Kilmer is very comparable to Pattison.

I personally think Marvel sometimes gets it wrong in their actors look (Chris Evans was overdeveloped to the point of poor posture) so I didn't need to see Pattinson go that route, but I think some criticism is valid here.

 

[Tg11]

If Pattinson put on more muscle then it wouldn't be a problem

 

[Juke Box Hero]

If seeing a picture of the dude walking in the street not being ripped and jacked is going to ruin your movie experience, when you can't tell that he's not jacked or shredded under his suit, then that's on you

 

[Holiday]

If seeing a picture of the dude walking in the street not being ripped and jacked is going to ruin your movie experience, when you can't tell that he's not jacked or shredded under his suit, then that's on you

He's not going to be hiding under the Batsuit in every scene. He will likely appear in a business suit and as that gif from Tenet shows he'll be looking quite slim. He may even appear shirtless as Kilmer and Bale did in their films or in at least a t-shirt and we will then get a good look at his build.

WB may have even wanted a slimmer, more agile Batman as has been portrayed in some mediums but not every fan will be on board with that. This is a character who has decided to fight crime as his mission in life, he needs a physical presence to sell that.

 

[Eddie Dean]

No no no no no no no stop it

 

[Invader Joker]

As lanky? Possibly. But "far more lanky" that Pattinson is looking at the moment? I gotta disagree. At worst, i think people would have to admit Val Kilmer is very comparable to Pattison.

I personally think Marvel sometimes gets it wrong in their actors look (Chris Evans was overdeveloped to the point of poor posture) so I didn't need to see Pattinson go that route, but I think some criticism is valid here.

Look at the arms. Pattinson is more built.

 

[Holiday]

Look at the arms. Pattinson is more built.

Pattinson is flexing in both photos, especially the first, making his biceps appear larger. Look at Kilmer's chest/shoulders. He build is very comparable and certainly not smaller. Heat came out the same year in '95, and you see in this photo (lol @ his elbow) Kilmer had decent sized arms.

Pattinson is tall (6'1) so he naturally appears lankier than shorter men so I'd also argue that while Micheal Keaton wasn't impressively built either, he appears less lanky than Rob based on his shorter height.

 

[Invader Joker]

Pattinson is flexing in both photos, especially the first, making his biceps appear larger. Look at Kilmer's chest/shoulders. He build is very comparable and certainly not smaller. Heat came out the same year in '95, and you see in this photo (lol @ his elbow) Kilmer had decent sized arms.

Pattinson is tall (6'1) so he naturally appears lankier than shorter men so I'd also argue that while Micheal Keaton wasn't impressively built either, he appears less lanky than Rob based on his shorter height.

I would argue the opposite. Pattinson seems more built and suited for Batman than Keaton ever did. The build between Pattinson and Kilmer is comparable but Pattinson is definitely more built than Kilmer or Keaton ever were:

If you accept Keaton and Kilmer I see no reason to not accept Pattinson.

 

[Invader Joker]

Also in this interview filmed in December where he looks faaaar more presentable and is wearing a more tight shirt, he looks in pretty great shape.

 

[Schlosser85]

We're really judging Pattinson for not looking like Bruce Wayne while running out for groceries in shorts and a hoodie during a quarantine?

He's not remotely "in character" or made-up, or anything, and he's wearing a loose-fitting hoodie. Those are terrible pics to go by to judge what an actor is gonna look like in a movie.

 

[Gothamsknight]

We're really judging Pattinson for not looking like Bruce Wayne while running out for groceries in shorts and a hoodie during a quarantine?

He's not remotely "in character" or made-up, or anything, and he's wearing a loose-fitting hoodie. Those are terrible pics to go by to judge what an actor is gonna look like in a movie.

Thats what fanboys do sadly. All I know is I look at this and Im super happy.