Robert Pattinson IS The Batman

[Holiday]

I would argue the opposite. Pattinson seems more built and suited for Batman than Keaton ever did. The build between Pattinson and Kilmer is comparable but Pattinson is definitely more built than Kilmer or Keaton ever were:
If you accept Keaton and Kilmer I see no reason to not accept Pattinson.

I'm not saying Keaton had a good build for the character but more disagreeing with the term "lanky" to describe him as that's a term that more accurately describes tall, slim people. Rob is 2-3 inches taller than Keaton and Clooney so it's not a huge insult to say he'll be lankier than those two.

I just have to flat out disagree that Pattinson is more built than Kilmer though based on what I see of him right now, that interview included. They both have a pretty average build (though again I would give Kilmer the edge) which is less than some people expect from a superhero crime fighter.

 

[TheBattinson]

I mean the same general criticism could have been thrown at 5'9" Michael Keaton and it has no impact on the film.

Keaton looked like a man, not a boy. Had intensity of the eyes, and an innate masculine energy. He had a bad ass American swagger. I get the total opposite of all these innate characteristics Keaton had as a person, which translated into the role, from Pattinson.

 

[Art Vandelay]

He could have ABSOLUTELY have that Henry Cavill Superman physique or the best Chris Evans Captain America shape. If he started right after he was cast: EASILY!.

I don't know about that. Henry Cavill was already buff prior to being Superman. And Chris Evans was a bit more buff than Pattinson is now. These guys started from very different spots than he's starting from.

 

[Invader Joker]

I just have to flat out disagree that Pattinson is more built than Kilmer though based on what I see of him right now, that interview included. They both have a pretty average build (though again I would give Kilmer the edge) which is less than some people expect from a superhero crime fighter.

I have zero idea how you could look at those pics and give Kilmer the edge unless you really hated Pattinson.

 

[Invader Joker]

Keaton looked like a man, not a boy. Had intensity of the eyes, and an innate masculine energy. He had a bad ass American swagger. I get the total opposite of all these innate characteristics Keaton had as a person, which translated into the role, from Pattinson.

In my opinion he looked goofy. Pattinson has that chiseled jaw and he's a handsome guy that looks more like the depiction of Bruce Wayne from several comics than Keaton or heck, even Bale, ever did.

 

[Eddie Dean]

[willferrellinzoolander]i feel like I’m taking crazy pills!

 

[TheBattinson]

In my opinion he looked goofy. Pattinson has that chiseled jaw and he's a handsome guy that looks more like the depiction of Bruce Wayne from several comics than Keaton or heck, even Bale, ever did.

Nah. He looks petite and boyish. Keaton was handsome. He dated Pfieffer and Courtney Cox in their prime. Keaton’s jaw looked good in the cowl. And obviously he was the most intense, as well as best set of eyes ever for a Batman

 

[SwordOfMorning]

It would've been nice if Pattinson was in the shape Bale was for TDK and Rises, there's a sleekness to how Bale looks in those two which is ideal to me, but... It doesn't matter? He's a handsome, square jawed, six foot tall man in good shape. There's no reason for Batman to look like a roid monster like Henry Cavill or have the body builder look the MCU guys have. As a random example, Joaquin Phoenix in You Were Never Really Here is basically fat ripped and he's far more intimidating on screen than most jacked actors would've been.

If you're doing a take that places a lot of emphasis on Bruce being peak human? Sure, maybe. But if you're doing a gritty detective take? It's at best a tertiary concern.

 

[Holiday]

I like Pattinson as an actor and was happy to see him get the role actually, I'm just not impressed with his build. He doesn't stand out next to Kilmer at all.

 

[TonyDiego]

There's no reason for Batman to look like a roid monster like Henry Cavill or have the body builder look the MCU guys have.

Yes, yes there is... Because he's Batman!

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Yes, yes there is... Because he's Batman!

Batman's physique is about the 75th most interesting or important thing about him. Obviously, I dunno, Ezra Miller or Timothee Chalamet wouldn't be physically suited for the role but... It just really isn't a concern, especially when he'll presumably be spending most fight scenes in heavy body armour anyway.

It's not ideal, but it's whatever and I personally wouldn't have even thought about his physique if it wasn't for the weird fixation on it segments of the fandom have.

 

[Invader Joker]

Nah. He looks petite and boyish. Keaton was handsome. He dated Pfieffer and Courtney Cox in their prime. Keaton’s jaw looked good in the cowl. And obviously he was the most intense, as well as best set of eyes ever for a Batman

I'll literally never understand this argument against Robert Pattinson. He looks handsome, he looks like a billionaire playboy, he looks like Bruce Wayne. Does he look young? Yeah, but that's kinda the point, this is Year 2 Batman.
And if we're talking about intense eyes....

 

[TonyDiego]

Batman's physique is about the 75th most interesting or important thing about him.

It's actually way higher up the list because he's only human and people love him in huge part because he's awesome and he can achieve incredible athletic feats with his body in his crusade against crime (and again, because he's human the audience finds that inspirational, if not aspirational). And the physique that we are arguing about is the visual representation of that! Plus, humans really, really like to look at well developed aesthetic bodies. Bruce at his best represents visually peak masculinity.

he'll presumably be spending most fight scenes in heavy body armour anyway

Even more important in that case, because he has to sell the strength aspect of the character even more to convince people that he can move and be dangerous in heavy body armor.

 

[TonyDiego]

If he didn't have that insanely developed jaw he would have been ridiculous looking. It's the only thing that saves him.

 

[Schlosser85]

Are we pretending Michael Keaton or George Clooney were buff? The only thing making Keaton intimidating is his intensity, which Pattinson also has, not his physical stature which isn't anything special.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Keaton is simultaneously a quarter the size of and twice as intimidating in the cowl as Affleck. Screen presence matters as much as size.

 

[Schlosser85]

Keaton is simultaneously a quarter the size of and twice as intimidating in the cowl as Affleck. Screen presence matters as much as size.

His Toomes was also just a regular middle-aged scrap hauler in a makeshift flightsuit, and was more intimidating than some way more powerful CBM villains.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

His Toomes was also just a regular middle-aged scrap hauler in a makeshift flightsuit, and was more intimidating than some way more powerful CBM villains.

Low-key the best MCU villain in my opinion. So good.

 

[Tg11]

With Pattinson it seems the only problem with him is his build/physique but every other quality of Bruce Wayne/Batman like the dark, brooding personality...the billionaire playboy look he has that down but as far as the overall physical build/physique he doesn't really have that. If Pattinson were to put on like 25 to 30 pounds of weight but that weight is actually ripped muscle then a lot more people would change their tune.

 

[Invader Joker]

I legitimately can't wrap my head around the people that look at Keaton and say: This is handsome billionaire playboy, most elegible bachelor Bruce Wayne.

https://***********/pattinsongifs/status/1179099392273502208

But this isn't:

To me, at least, it's obvious Pattinson fits the archetype a lot more and in these images and gifs he isn't even characterized as Bruce. I'm not saying you have to love him but if you are able to accept Keaton I have no idea why you couldn't accept Pattinson when Pattinson looks waaaay more like the part and his filmography pre-Batman leans more towards Batman than Keaton's did.

 

[BobJM]

Just watched Good Times on Netflix with Pattinson. He’s so good; I can’t wait to see his Bruce Wayne.

 

[TheBattinson]

Keaton is simultaneously a quarter the size of and twice as intimidating in the cowl as Affleck. Screen presence matters as much as size.

Ding ding

 

[Fincher]

It's actually way higher up the list because he's only human and people love him in huge part because he's awesome and he can achieve incredible athletic feats with his body in his crusade against crime (and again, because he's human the audience finds that inspirational, if not aspirational). And the physique that we are arguing about is the visual representation of that! Plus, humans really, really like to look at well developed aesthetic bodies. Bruce at his best represents visually peak masculinity.

Depends on who you ask. Batman is an action hero, and kicking *** and taking names is part of that, but I can appreciate more slender action heroes just as well as muscular ones. The whole peak human physique Batman isn't any concern of mine, and I think that's more of a comic book fan thing than a movie Batman thing. The movies traditionally seem more like James Bond (which also didn't emphasize muscularity until Daniel Craig) than more testerone-filled series like Die Hard or Rambo. Batman has gadgets and a cool car, and his nemeses aren't typically that physically imposing, and even when they are it's about him as the smaller guy overcoming the bigger guy, like Indiana Jones or...James Bond.

I guess you could say Bale vs. Bane was the big guy facing the even bigger guy, just because Bale was more muscular than the previous actors. However, the Nolan movie fights weren't that great, and the focus in that series was more on stealth/martial arts/acrobatics than brawn. The first Batman to be all like, "Rawr, I'm so big! Watch me hurl this crate across the room and smash this guy's head in!" was Batfleck, and BvS and Justice League weren't that popular. I'm not saying they were unpopular because he was big and strong, but the lukewarm reception means they probably didn't change the general audience's ideas about who Batman is that much.

 

[Invader Joker]

Depends on who you ask. Batman is an action hero, and kicking *** and taking names is part of that, but I can appreciate more slender action heroes just as well as muscular ones. The whole peak human physique Batman isn't any concern of mine, and I think that's more of a comic book fan thing than a movie Batman thing. The movies traditionally seem more like James Bond (which also didn't emphasize muscularity until Daniel Craig) than more testerone-filled series like Die Hard or Rambo. Batman has gadgets and a cool car, and his nemeses aren't typically that physically imposing, and even when they are it's about him as the smaller guy overcoming the bigger guy, like Indiana Jones or...James Bond.

I guess you could say Bale vs. Bane was the big guy facing the even bigger guy, just because Bale was more muscular than the previous actors. However, the Nolan movie fights weren't that great, and the focus in that series was more on stealth/martial arts/acrobatics than brawn. The first Batman to be all like, "Rawr, I'm so big! Watch me hurl this crate across the room and smash this guy's head in!" was Batfleck, and BvS and Justice League weren't that popular. I'm not saying they were unpopular because he was big and strong, but the lukewarm reception means they probably didn't change the general audience's ideas about who Batman is that much.

I gotta admit it still bothers me how Batman in the comics, animation and videogames is known for 2 things: being the world's greatest detective and being an insanely good fighter and athlete, maybe the best in the world, and yet his movies have barely even touched on that. Most Batman movies have had mediocre hand to hand action, and lackluster detective scenes.

I do hope for the sequels Pattinson undergoes a Hugh Jackman type of transformation, since his physique right now seems pretty similar to the one Jackman had in that first X-Men:

But for the first movie what he has works fine considering how little time he had to train. I guess it also depends on what kind of backstory this Batman has, maybe for whatever reason he wasn't able to get to that "peak human physique" before he became Batman and he's still figuring things out.

 

[shauner111]

Depends on who you ask. Batman is an action hero, and kicking *** and taking names is part of that, but I can appreciate more slender action heroes just as well as muscular ones. The whole peak human physique Batman isn't any concern of mine, and I think that's more of a comic book fan thing than a movie Batman thing. The movies traditionally seem more like James Bond (which also didn't emphasize muscularity until Daniel Craig) than more testerone-filled series like Die Hard or Rambo. Batman has gadgets and a cool car, and his nemeses aren't typically that physically imposing, and even when they are it's about him as the smaller guy overcoming the bigger guy, like Indiana Jones or...James Bond.

I guess you could say Bale vs. Bane was the big guy facing the even bigger guy, just because Bale was more muscular than the previous actors. However, the Nolan movie fights weren't that great, and the focus in that series was more on stealth/martial arts/acrobatics than brawn. The first Batman to be all like, "Rawr, I'm so big! Watch me hurl this crate across the room and smash this guy's head in!" was Batfleck, and BvS and Justice League weren't that popular. I'm not saying they were unpopular because he was big and strong, but the lukewarm reception means they probably didn't change the general audience's ideas about who Batman is that much.

Bingo. The general audience doesn’t give a ****. The hardcore fans do. But it’s not everything to some hardcore fans. It’s important to me that he’s in shape. That’s all I ask for. I don’t need him to weigh a certain amount. I’ve never really had a problem with the physiques of past Batman. They’re all in shape in their own way. And so is Rob. His height, jaw, hair, eyes, voicework, acting, intensity is way more important.