Rocky 6

[November Rain]

no offense, but that would've seriously sucked. it'd be a terrible way to end the series. it was bad enough an idea that it didn't even get past the script stage for Rocky V.

nah a death and re-ressurection of his statue with his son taking over the training legacy at his gym and marie running the restaurant would have been perfect.

not only would it help mason's career but also two other people's without any form of a cheesy tarnish, it could have been done.

now that I would've found pretty cool. it would've hurt Dixon's character a bit, but I honestly wouldn't care much.

well I don't think so, it was stated he wasn't at his best for the fight, plus he did get injured and it was only an exhibition match. I feel the mystery element would have helped, I wouldn't have minded if rocky went straight out and lost but the fact they decided to go with a split decision was somewhat hopeful and thus a lil bit of a let down. they ended rocky 3 on a cliffhanger with apollo and rocky's sparring match, I wouldn't have minded the same thing happening here...

actually it was quite surprising apollo didn't turn up in any or rocky's dream sequences, especially considering it's his training regime that pretty much got him to where it is now, which i thought was also compromised with his new regime but i guess different things for different people at different ages.

to me, it was more than enough to inform us that it'd actually numb up and make him able to punch harder. the guy commenting the fight gave us that much exposition. going further than that would only hurt, cause they'd have to cut into the "going the distance" montage.

I got what they were saying, I just didn't get when it was supposed to start becoming deadly, there was nothing said about it again by either the ring commentators or by mason's corner. I wouldn't have minded if his hand was hurt for the rest of the bout, It just wasn't made clear when it was no longer a problem and now a weapon.

at first I was a bit miffed with all the HBO product placement, but it grew on me. as far as the sound effects, they sounded like they had to. this movie clearly isn't meant to be as comic booky as Rocky III or IV. now THOSE were pretty dumbed down. fun to watch, yes, but dumbed down nonetheless.

ah, i was waiting for the big hits, it all felt muffled and with the extra care about contact the punches came across as soft. I guess with youth and decent sounds effect, pulling off more realistic but still comic-esque blows are easier to apply. I normally cringe at a couple of blows given in a rocky film but i didn't feel myself cringing at any, i'm simply a fan of pain, or painful looking stuff.

certainly not a classic by any means, but still pretty well made and a well worthy end to the series.

indeed

"When Rocky was diagnosed with brain damage, it must be noted that many athletes have a form of brain damage including football players, soccer players, and other individuals in contact sports such as rugby, etc. Rocky never went for a second opinion and yielded to his wife's wishes to stop. So with the advent of new research techniques into brain damage, Rocky was found to be normal among fighters, and he was suffering the results of a severe concussion. By today's standards Rocky Balboa would be given a clean bill of health for fighters." Sylvester Stallone, 2006 (aintitcoolnews.com interview), available at http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30861.

It's all good saying this in an interview but why not at least point to it within the film. FIRST thing any son would do when their father talks about fighting again would be to look at the health implications. His son didn't even consider it, it was as if it was no longer a problem, it just felt odd. two lines is all that would be needed ad it would help strengthen continuity ties.

I'm all for the reasoning but there is no anxiety or worry about his condition before being granted his license. From himself, his friend/trainer, his son or the governing board.

but meh.

 

[November Rain]

Dieing would have sucked big time.
The film was great.

nah, could have worked well i feel but to each their own.

The point of this was to make the film more realistic so that people could take the film more seriously.
I think this worked perfectly.
Obviously, this being a Rocky film he was gonna do some damage, but if Rocky had won at 55 or pummelled Dixon Clubber Lang style, film audiences world wide would have laughed.

the fact it got to a split decision in the first place is a lil off for me, Taking a world champion to the distance (albeit only 10 rounds) for the first time surely would have been enough but for the decision to be split in the first place is a lil far fetched, so having him win doesn't seem like too much extra on top of that, especially considering the potential conditions mason was in, injured, fatigued due to a lack of conditioning for multiple bout fighting and not in his best shape.

Well it was clear to me what happened he just punched Rock awkwardly and hurt his hand.

no, not the event itself but the healing/numbing time elasped before it became a weapon again, it was never revealed.

Well yeah they made the film more realistic.
Those sound effects are pretty dumb themselves.
I love the old films but if they had made the new film exactly like the old ones it would have sucked and got ripped by everyone including the critics. As it stands this film seems to have the highest critic ratings of all the sequels. I don’t think you really understand boxing the sport, or what makes a good realistic-esqe film about an aged fighter.

the sound effects were awesome, although i do think they are representative of the time the films were made, just like the evolution of the gun shot sound in film.

exactly like the old ones? One member on here seems to think that Rocky balboa is indeed incredibly similar to the first film, i can't vouch since i've never seen it but from what i've heard, they do seem to come from a similar mould via tone and probably the way the bout went.

For me this film defiantly leaves lasting memories.
I guess it all comes down to how much of a fan you are etc.
Also regarding Drago and brain damage, I think they just skipped over that one, heh.


maybe i don't but old fighters i would expect to either be incredibly gracious or completely overzealous or possibly different depending on whether they are around the ring or not.

something for me that leaves a memory out of a franchise either has the best or worst parts of the franchise within it. I quite like the whole idea of rocky 3, and i quite hate the whole one for 4/5 while 4 has the best fights and montages.

6 sits in the middle for these criteria so nothing really sticks out although it doesn't leave a sour ending taste in your mouth like five does.

 

[JackBauer]

nah a death and re-ressurection of his statue with his son taking over the training legacy at his gym and marie running the restaurant would have been perfect.

not only would it help mason's career but also two other people's without any form of a cheesy tarnish, it could have been done.

come on, his kid following his footsteps? I know he was still trying to figure stuff out, but he didn't strike me as particularly proficient in boxing...

as for Marie, I'd think Paulie would've gotten the restaurant over a woman Rocky only knew for a while.

which is something that really worked for me in the movie. he didn't hook up with her, but there was still a glimmer of hope for him in the future. that would've been lost if he'd died.

well I don't think so, it was stated he wasn't at his best for the fight, plus he did get injured and it was only an exhibition match. I feel the mystery element would have helped, I wouldn't have minded if rocky went straight out and lost but the fact they decided to go with a split decision was somewhat hopeful and thus a lil bit of a let down. they ended rocky 3 on a cliffhanger with apollo and rocky's sparring match, I wouldn't have minded the same thing happening here...

yeah, but for all intents and purposes, he was still a young champion who was in his prime. that Rocky went as far as he did was enough of a stretch, all things considered.

giving into the possibility that he actually lost to an old Rocky would only make him pale in comparison to Rocky's former opponents, which he already kinda does.

actually it was quite surprising apollo didn't turn up in any or rocky's dream sequences, especially considering it's his training regime that pretty much got him to where it is now, which i thought was also compromised with his new regime but i guess different things for different people at different ages.

come on, Apollo got Rocky through Clubber Lang and that was that. and it was all about Rocky getting back his eye of the tiger (which pretty much came from a talk with Adrian).

you give Apollo way too much credit. if anything he comes last, after Mickey and Duke, Apollo's coach.

I got what they were saying, I just didn't get when it was supposed to start becoming deadly, there was nothing said about it again by either the ring commentators or by mason's corner. I wouldn't have minded if his hand was hurt for the rest of the bout, It just wasn't made clear when it was no longer a problem and now a weapon.

Martin, Mason's coach, did say "it'll numb up on you on a couple of rounds". that was enough exposition on that.

ah, i was waiting for the big hits, it all felt muffled and with the extra care about contact the punches came across as soft. I guess with youth and decent sounds effect, pulling off more realistic but still comic-esque blows are easier to apply. I normally cringe at a couple of blows given in a rocky film but i didn't feel myself cringing at any, i'm simply a fan of pain, or painful looking stuff.

matter of opinion, I guess. me, I find those punches that sound like shotguns a tad ridiculous.

It's all good saying this in an interview but why not at least point to it within the film. FIRST thing any son would do when their father talks about fighting again would be to look at the health implications. His son didn't even consider it, it was as if it was no longer a problem, it just felt odd. two lines is all that would be needed ad it would help strengthen continuity ties.

I'm all for the reasoning but there is no anxiety or worry about his condition before being granted his license. From himself, his friend/trainer, his son or the governing board.

but meh.

there's no concern because, as the governing board said to him, he passed all the tests "with flying colors".

I do guess what you're saying about mentioning it in the movie, but if you really think about it, it would've sounded kind of forced. I mean, if he knew years ago that the whole brain damage business was not really an issue, mentioning it in the movie would feel like cheap exposition and explanation for the audience.

 

[JackBauer]

no, not the event itself but the healing/numbing time elasped before it became a weapon again, it was never revealed.

like I said, it was mentioned, albeit briefly, by Martin. "It'll numb up on you. It'll numb up on a couple of rounds."

 

[November Rain]

so it was never revealed, simply assumed, which is my whole point

 

[black_dust]

Well how the hell are they going to know what round Dixsons hand will lose feeling? from their experience they just say in a few rounds

 

[Dangerous]

November Rain- Rocky Dieing would have sucked balls big time.

That would have been the worst possible ending for the series.
It was bad enough that Adrian was dead.
The film was about Rocky dealing with his grief for Adrian’s passing.
Not getting himself killed in the process, that would have been mission failed.

It was about him getting rid of the 'stuff in the basement' and moving forwards in his life to a better place than the sad existence he had lead for the last 4 years.

I think maybe you missed that.

Regarding the fight- Just because Dixon was taken the distance for the first time (all none title fights are 10 rounds these days) does not mean Rocky should have won.
Boxing matches are scored on who does the best work in each round inc- punches landed, aggression, and defence. see?

Rocky accomplished his mission because all he wanted to do was go the distance.

 

[Dangerous]

Where the hells milkman anyway?

 

[November Rain]

Well how the hell are they going to know what round Dixsons hand will lose feeling? from their experience they just say in a few rounds

because he'd mention it in his corner and they can strategise around it, simple

 

[Substance D]

November Rain... You're stupid.

 

[November Rain]

November Rain... You're stupid.

who cares whether i'm stupid or not?

they made a deal about how it was going to be used as a weapon and it was never properly deployed.

It's like them saying 'watch out for his uppercut, it's deadly' and not having a single one thrown in the entire film.

 

[Dangerous]

Word, it was a fine film.
I rank it above III and V.

 

[JackBauer]

so it was never revealed, simply assumed, which is my whole point

it wasn't assumed. it was mentioned, on screen, and shown, as he punched hard with his broken hand. just because they didn't wave it around with a huge sign saying "LOOK, THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT", doesn't mean it wasn't there.

 

[dark_b]

so hes hand was broken?

 

[Reek]

yea he broke his hand in the first or second round i cant remember... the only reason they even hand that in the story was to show that Mason had yet another advantage...being able to punch harder. meaning of all masons other opponents, hes punching rocky the hardest...its meant as a psychological thing for the viewers, not physical...like damn hes getting hit harder than anyone Mason has fought, it didnt have to show him land a devastating punch to show that...

hope that makes sense, it did in my head.

 

[OtepApe]

Just got back from seeing the movie, I loved it.

Thought it was a great way to finish off the series, much better thn V anyway. It was obviously a film with a lot of heart and emotion (what Rocky movie isn't), but it never felt forced of cheesy. The fight scenes were very well done, and I was happy with how the result played out.

Plus, having never seen a Rocky movie at the cinema before, when 'Gonna Fly Now' kicks in, I had goosebumps. Truly a great pleasure to watch this movie.

 

[November Rain]

it wasn't assumed. it was mentioned, on screen, and shown, as he punched hard with his broken hand. just because they didn't wave it around with a huge sign saying "LOOK, THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT", doesn't mean it wasn't there.

yeah it was assumed since we didn't know exactly when it came into practice, nor did mason's corner call him in to put up a new strategy on how he would go about utilizing it. Heck, non of his numbed up punches stood out from his other blows.

again, if they are going to go on about this new weapon he weilds, then why bring it up, it would have been better if it was left out completely.

 

[Milkman95]

Where the hells milkman anyway?

I was out of town my friend, in Chicago to be exact for work.

What did you think?

RB is now at $78.7 million worldwide and it was just released Internationally. Pretty good for $24m dollar budget and what was supposed to be a washed up character and actor............

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/23012007/325/stallone-punches-way-top-box-office.html

its made 3.6 million in the uk..that is great!

 

[Dangerous]

I was out of town my friend, in Chicago to be exact for work.

What did you think?

See previous page.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I was out of town my friend, in Chicago to be exact for work.

What did you think?

RB is now at $78.7 million worldwide and it was just released Internationally. Pretty good for $24m dollar budget and what was supposed to be a washed up character and actor............

Good to hear. Sly new what he was doing, a shame that it took so much effort to get this thing off the ground. Give him credit for following through no matter what it took.

 

[WorthyStevens]

Playing more strongly overseas than at home, Rocky Balboa made $11.2 million and its early total is $23.8 million. The sports drama dominated the U.K. with a $6.9 million start from 404 screens. It also opened in the Netherlands to a decent $241,484 from 58 screens. Holdovers are where Balboa took a beating, dropping more than 50 percent in Spain, Italy and Mexico.

http://boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2239&p=.htm

 

[Mauser9910]

Hey guys !
Just saw it yesterday as it opened in France, I'll look closely to the BO numbers around here, I suppose it should do very good too !

I must say I envy your theaters, especially the ones in Philadelphia for the uncanny atmosphere there was during these screenings apparently.
We're not used to such demonstrations and it's sad lol ; I still remember kicking the (empty) seat in front of me when I saw Rocky IV in theaters !

Anyway, great film and such a tribute to the original film and the franchise, perfect way to end it, really !

 

[WorthyStevens]

'Balboa' total sits at $95,391,967.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=rocky6.htm

 

[Milkman95]

^Nice. All in all, it should rake in well over $100m worldwide and bring in a ton of cash on DVD.