The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Rotten Tomatoes - Predictions?

[Nemeres]

Assuming a good story is a priority, I predict it'll fall between the 70s and 80s. Just from the trailers it seems a tad cluttered, and that's likely to be a complaint.

Then again, this is 100% a blind game, lol. So replace "predict" with "blindly guess".

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Anything above 80% would be a major success.

But since MOS it seems critics have been tougher on SH movies. Plus critics seemed biased against the SM reboot. It will be an uphill climb.

My prediction for now is 75%. User rating should be 85% though.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Assuming a good story is a priority, I predict it'll fall between the 70s and 80s. Just from the trailers it seems a tad cluttered, and that's likely to be a complaint.

Then again, this is 100% a blind game, lol. So replace "predict" with "blindly guess".

The movie doesn't look anymore cluttered than most of the comic book films out there now.

 

[Naite22]

65 to 70 is what I'm thinking though I think it's too early to tell. I need some clips or something before making any real predictions for the RT score.

That, for me, is unacceptable. I WILL be very, very disappointed if that's the case! TASM1 is at 72% on rotten tomatoes. That's actually not bad. But I am truly expecting TASM2 to be at least on a solid 80%! I really don't wanna see it drop below 80! And TASM2 has every bit of potential in the world to cross the 80% line on rotten.

I think it has a great chance to be better because:

- It'll be its own thing, now that the origin is out of the way.
- The relationships will be expanded on.
- The story will no doubt feel larger in scope.
- The action will be bigger and better.
- We have a better cinematic villain(s).
- Screenplay for Amazing 2 seems more promising, because of Alex & Orci.
- Hans Zimmer will make the movie feel Epic because of his music!!t:

Cons:

- I fear the villains will suffer from overload, or that they are badly executed.
- I fear that too much action will get in way of the story (if not, then bring it on!)

those are my only concerns.

 

[Naite22]

Anything above 80% would be a major success.

But since MOS it seems critics have been tougher on SH movies. Plus critics seemed biased against the SM reboot. It will be an uphill climb.

My prediction for now is 75%. User rating should be 85% though.

MOS was my most anticipated film of 2013! I'm a huge superman fan (see my avatar, hehe). But that film was the biggest disappointment of my life. It deserved every rotten review it got.

My point here is actually that Zack Snyder is the worst ****ing storyteller on the planet! But he isn't directing Amazing 2. Marc Webb is. He both cares for his characters and is a solid storyteller. Alone because of that my mind is at ease on that front. Amazing 2 has a good chance of hitting the 80% mark.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I don't think villain overload will be an issue. Execution on the other hand is a different story… but I'm not too worried about that either.

Not worried about too much action, either.

 

[Picard Sisko]

MOS was my most anticipated film of 2013! I'm a huge superman fan (see my avatar, hehe). But that film was the biggest disappointment of my life. It deserved every rotten review it got.

My point here is actually that Zack Snyder is the worst ****ing storyteller on the planet! But he isn't directing Amazing 2. Marc Webb is. He both cares for his characters and is a solid storyteller. Alone because of that my mind is at ease on that front. Amazing 2 has a good chance of hitting the 80% mark.

Orci and Kurtzman are good at handling action heavy films, while Marc Webb is the master of strong characters and storytelling. With the two of them combined...

 

[Naite22]

Orci and Kurtzman are good at handling action heavy films, while Marc Webb is the master of strong characters and storytelling. With the two of them combined...

... good things will happen! Yes, I truly hope so too

 

[Nemeres]

The movie doesn't look anymore cluttered than most of the comic book films out there now.

It's got three major villains, several mystery characters and a handful of plot points it needs to explore, both new and old. I'd say it looks cluttered all right. It may be a big problem or a small one, depending on how the approach it.

MOS was my most anticipated film of 2013! I'm a huge superman fan (see my avatar, hehe). But that film was the biggest disappointment of my life. It deserved every rotten review it got.

My point here is actually that Zack Snyder is the worst ****ing storyteller on the planet! But he isn't directing Amazing 2. Marc Webb is. He both cares for his characters and is a solid storyteller. Alone because of that my mind is at ease on that front. Amazing 2 has a good chance of hitting the 80% mark.

Yowza. Just out of curiosity, in a nutshell, what would be the 3 biggest sins you'd single out about MOS?

Spoiler

And just in case someone nags about derailing the thread: SPIDER-MAN!

 

[Naite22]

It's got three major villains, several mystery characters and a handful of plot points it needs to explore, both new and old. I'd say it looks cluttered all right. It may be a big problem or a small one, depending on how the approach it.



Yowza. Just out of curiosity, in a nutshell, what would be the 3 biggest sins you'd single out about MOS?

Spoiler

And just in case someone nags about derailing the thread: SPIDER-MAN!

1: The storytelling is horribly bad and uninvolving. You never got to dwell in anything.
2: The editing is beyond weird.
3: The characters were so hollow (Zod was a tad better though). You never really got to know any one :-(
4: The action was the main player in the film, and it was ruined because of it.

Sorry. Can't sum it down to only three things. I could go on.

 

[Picard Sisko]

It's got three major villains, several mystery characters and a handful of plot points it needs to explore, both new and old. I'd say it looks cluttered all right. It may be a big problem or a small one, depending on how the approach it.

Wait, what? Who said anything about three major villains? I'm so tired of having to explain this, but here it goes.

The main villain is Electro. That has been clarified time and time again. Rhino is only in a couple of scenes, and is only teased for the sequel. Harry Goblin is a secondary villain, and probably only turns into a villain towards the end of the movie.

There are some mystery characters that will be explored, but its not as if they are front and center and will require much character development. This movie does not seem that cluttered.

 

[Shikamaru]

I don't think I can predict any RT score at this point. Not even the exact range. In the past 2 or 3 years, we had a few films that had RT scores completely polar opposite to the scores I thought they should have gotten and/or expected them to get. Mainly TKDR, IM3, and MOS. Nothing has been predictable for me since then.

 

[Picard Sisko]

In a world where SR gets over 70% positive and MOS gets around 50%, I think we can say that RT is really unpredictable.

 

[Shikamaru]

It's got three major villains, several mystery characters and a handful of plot points it needs to explore, both new and old. I'd say it looks cluttered all right. It may be a big problem or a small one, depending on how the approach it.

It doesn't. It has one main villain (Electro), a peripheral villain that will be in like 2 scenes at most and won't be connected to the rest of the plot (Rhino), and a secondary villain (GG).

At most, it will have 2 major villains (Electro & GG). Which is very common in superhero films.

Yowza. Just out of curiosity, in a nutshell, what would be the 3 biggest sins you'd single out about MOS?

Spoiler

And just in case someone nags about derailing the thread: SPIDER-MAN!

1) Since the start of production, the film promised it would show humanity's reaction to Superman and IT NEVER SHOWS IT.
2) The lack of a second act.
3) The horrendous job it does with Superman's secret identity. It is horrible even by the usual "Glasses can hide my identity" Superman standards.
4) Not getting into Superman's head enough.
5) All the plot holes with Krypton and Zod. Including why Zod wants to turn Earth into Krypton in the first place.

 

[Nemeres]

1: The storytelling is horribly bad and uninvolving. You never got to dwell in anything.
2: The editing is beyond weird.
3: The characters were so hollow (Zod was a tad better though). You never really got to know any one :-(
4: The action was the main player in the film, and it was ruined because of it.

Sorry. Can't sum it down to only three things. I could go on.

Fair enough. I have my own share of complaints.

Wait, what? Who said anything about three major villains? I'm so tired of having to explain this, but here it goes.

The main villain is Electro. That has been clarified time and time again. Rhino is only in a couple of scenes, and is only teased for the sequel. Harry Goblin is a secondary villain, and probably only turns into a villain towards the end of the movie.

There are some mystery characters that will be explored, but its not as if they are front and center and will require much character development. This movie does not seem that cluttered.

You're aware of those things because you follow the development of the movie. How about the critic/GA member who grows fond of Giamatti's Rhino and then doesn't see him appear again for the rest of the movie? Who is not okay with dangling plot threads, or stuff being set up for sequels? What if the things they like are pushed to the background in favor of less interesting elements/performances/characters? There's way too many variables. Informed guesses are only guesses at the end of the day. And then again, I was only referring to the trailers, the 1st of which didn't do much for me (the 2nd did, though).

 

[Picard Sisko]

I don't think people are going to complain about Rhino being pushed aside for Electro/Green Goblin. There are way too many variables for any movie to tell whether or not it will turn out well. Why is TASM2 any different?

Your post has too many "what ifs."

 

[Shikamaru]

Rhino will be mostly comic relief. He won't have the same depth as Electro and GG, based on what we know.

 

[Nemeres]

I don't think people are going to complain about Rhino being pushed aside for Electro/Green Goblin. There are way too many variable for any movie to tell whether or not it will turn out well. Why is TASM2 any different?

Your post has too many "what ifs."

Well, that's what speculation is all about. On the other hand, you might be assuming too much. That's what I mean by too many variables: we just can't know what dozens of people will or won't like. It's not just a question of summing up your pre-acquired knowledge of the movie and assuming everyone else shares it. In fact, that's the test of fire for movies, IMO: uninformed first impressions. But we'll see. My point was that the movie gives the feeling of being a little too busy, which is an impression I've seen many share.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Rhino shouldn't have as much depth as those other characters anyway. Seriously, this whole "too cluttered" nonsense is getting really annoying. If there is any movie I'm worried about, its DOFP.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Well, that's what speculation is all about. On the other hand, you might be assuming too much. That's what I mean by too many variables: we just can't know what dozens of people will or won't like. It's not just a question of summing up your pre-acquired knowledge of the movie and assuming everyone else shares it. In fact, that's the test of fire for movies, IMO: uninformed first impressions. But we'll see. My point was that the movie gives the feeling of being a little too busy, which is an impression I've seen many share.

Most people think the movie is "too busy" because Spider-Man 3 also had three villains. Pretty closed minded if you ask me, and even a little ignorant.

 

[Shikamaru]

DOFP looks far more cluttered than any Marvel movie this year.

 

[TheLastBlade]

I think the production of the first Amazing Spiderman movie was like Spiderman 3. I remember both the actors and production team were pretty miffed that Sony interfered with the overall movie. Had Sony known that the movie would've been the highest grossing reboot of all time, this probably wouldn't have happened. Hopefully, the second one will do what the Dark Knight did with Batman Begins.

 

[TheLastBlade]

DOFP looks far more cluttered than any Marvel movie this year.

Have you heard that music? God awful..... And that Robocop Reboot sounds like garbage, too.

 

[Shikamaru]

The funny thing is that Sony had much more interference in TASM than in SM3 yet SM3 is mostly blamed on Sony whereas TASM is mostly blamed on Webb.

Have you heard that music? God awful..... And that Robocop Reboot sounds like garbage, too.

Yep. That track has been used so many times by now that it's getting really cliché and generic to hear it.

 

[Picard Sisko]

DOFP looks far more cluttered than any Marvel movie this year.

They just announced that Toad is in that movie, too. Sigh. Another Wolverine film with a ton of mutants in the background. And cyclops is still dead.