The Last Jedi Rotten tomatoes score?

[Consona]

Yea, this was one of my worst cinema experiences ever, so it makes sense it's the worst movie of the year for me.

 

[Leenie]

I wouldn't call The Last Jedi "The Worst Movie of the Year," simply based on the fact that I haven't seen every movie this year. And I'm sure there are a lot of worse ones out there; I haven't even seen Justice League, for starters.

It's most definitely the worst movie *that I have seen* this year, though. Especially in theaters.

 

[Consona]

I wouldn't call The Last Jedi "The Worst Movie of the Year," simply based on the fact that I haven't seen every movie this year. And I'm sure there are a lot of worse ones out there; I haven't even seen Justice League, for starters.

It's most definitely the worst movie *that I have seen* this year, though. Especially in theaters.

You've said better what I wanted to say.

Btw, even that butchered disjointed awful dialogue and humor JL was a much more pleasant and enjoyable experience than this.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Yeah, no. Justice League was garbage. This was much better.

 

[Consona]

So much garbage this year. Thor, JL, TLJ.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

When DCEU gets super low and MCU super high, everything is ok. When the worst movie of the year i.e. TLJ gets low score, it's trolls and bots.

Everything is not okay. The audience rating for DC films would be lower if RT didn't count the 20,000 glowing, "objective" reviews posted on there before JL even came out. It's absolutely not okay. The discrepancy between the MCU audience scores and DCEU ones is way too low. It ought to be much steeper.

And you must watch two films a year if you think TLJ is anywhere close to the worst of the year. That kind of hyperbole is immediately discrediting.

IMO, people are just so frustrated, they went to those sites and downvoted the movie even though they do not have any account there or voted before. Maybe I'm wrong but I'd not be surprised this is the case since it's a SW movie and it sucked so much.

So you are apologizing for organized downvoting of a movie they haven't even seen because the spoilers they read didn't match up with the version of the movie they convinced themselves that they were entitled to?

They're 'frustrated'? Tell them to get over it. It's a movie.

By the way, it's an absolute joy seeing your barely contained, incredibly sad DC victim complex in here.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Rotten Tomatoes Says Last Jedi User Score is Accurate
https://screenrant.com/rotten-tomatoes-last-jedi-user-score/

For one, RT would never admit that their system had been undermined. Secondly, trolling the score by organizing angry fans to swamp it with negative reviews wouldn't show up as an "inconsistency" in the way they're looking for it.

But RT score or no RT score, we REALLY need to stop equating movie quality with whether or not we LIKED a movie. I don't LIKE Vertigo, but it's on of the greatest movies of all time. There are movies that I LIKE, like Sahara, but know that they aren't necessarily well made, just enjoyable to watch.

 

[spiderman2]

While the movie has now fallen to a 92 and with the amount of votes it has now it may be hard for it to get back to a 93.

 

[harlequinade]

I wouldn't call The Last Jedi "The Worst Movie of the Year," simply based on the fact that I haven't seen every movie this year. And I'm sure there are a lot of worse ones out there; I haven't even seen Justice League, for starters.

It's most definitely the worst movie *that I have seen* this year, though. Especially in theaters.

Yeah worst for me in theaters too, but in the year that had Snowman and Kingsman 2 TLJ is still not at the very bottom JL is at least fun, even if often times it's unintentionally funny :P

 

[markjoedelonge]

Definitely not the worst movie of the year for me, but definitely most disappointing.

 

[Kev4000]

Definitely not the worst movie of the year for me, but definitely most disappointing.

Great summary to my Feelings to this, I agree.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I'm not so much looking at critics reviews because I place no store in them. Audience reviews are now sitting at 55 percent with approximately 117,000 responses. Justice league with the same amount of responses is sitting at 79 percent audience likes.
I enjoyed Justice league. I did not enjoy Star wars. I believe a beloved part of my youth has been maliciously molested and no one will be brought to justice for it.
Sad days. Sad days.

When fans can't help but express themselves this way... They take away whatever legitimate criticisms they may have and honestly just sound silly. Everyone I guess has their own truth but there are limits.

 

[spiderman2]

About fan scores the fact that JL has a 79 is very flawed has I have a hard time beliving that most fans like the movie considering all the hate you see for it on forms and how big of a drop off its boxoffice had and how bad its legs where.

 

[Consona]

Everything is not okay. The audience rating for DC films would be lower if RT didn't count the 20,000 glowing, "objective" reviews posted on there before JL even came out. It's absolutely not okay. The discrepancy between the MCU audience scores and DCEU ones is way too low. It ought to be much steeper.

And you must watch two films a year if you think TLJ is anywhere close to the worst of the year. That kind of hyperbole is immediately discrediting.

Yea, sure, my opinions are total nonsense because you don't agree, blah, blah, blah, etc., etc., etc...

To me it's the f***ing worst movie I've seen this year, there was not even one minute in it I did not find weird or stupid or cringy. No hyperbole, man. I'm utterly shocked myself.

So you are apologizing for organized downvoting of a movie they haven't even seen because the spoilers they read didn't match up with the version of the movie they convinced themselves that they were entitled to?

They're 'frustrated'? Tell them to get over it. It's a movie.

I'm not saying anything about people haven't seen the movie yet they've been voting. How do you know they haven't seen it?

By the way, it's an absolute joy seeing your barely contained, incredibly sad DC victim complex in here.

What do you mean by that?

An "absolute joy"? That tells a lot about you.

 

[Mjölnir]

Definitely not the worst movie of the year for me, but definitely most disappointing.

That nails it for me as well. And that's despite walking into TLJ without a good idea what it would be and being happy that I didn't know.

 

[Webhead38]

I don't know man. You're right that it didn't divide people but that's because Empire at the time was unanimously considered weaker than Star Wars since it wasn't as fun and joyous. Also it was thought that the movie felt incomplete and didn't have a beginning or end. People didn't get upset about the characterizations of say Luke, but they thought the everyone seemed more grumpy. Yoda was considered a technical marvel, and some critics did concede that the movie was well made, but they'd insist it lacked the magic of the first.

Hence the common consensus that the movie was only alright. It's only well after fans saw how the saga competed along with the benefit of vhs did people finally begin to think Empire was better than Star Wars.

But you have to remember Star Wars in 1977 was a phenomenon unlike any other. That was also a self-contained story where, quite honestly no one was thinking about a sequel straight out of the gate. People were still trying to wrap their heads around what they had just seen. That movie revolutionized the industry.

Even when talk popped up of a sequel, it initially was entitled Star Wars II. There were no chapter references suggesting a "bigger" story arc. That honestly became a marketing ploy that has been the potent Kool-aid many still drink to this day. Once Lucas gave it a separate subtitle, then the first Star Wars film adopted it's own subtitle and thus began this episodic journey.

But I have to be honest and say, for me, this new film is just Star Wars VIII. And it feels like it too. So to think that ANY film could reinvent the magic of that first blockbuster is not really putting context to history. You're absolutely right that people were not accustom to a middle section story. That is spot on. But even if it was fully contained with a traditional happy ending it still would not have touched the impact of that first movie.

I saw Empire just like Jaws II, Superman II, Rocky II. We were in that early era where sequels were really only starting to kick in. Prior to the late 70's the only sequels you really saw or thought about as part of a franchise was with the Planet of the Apes films. But it was actually because those films had begun losing their popularity in addition to the television show, which I loved, getting taken off after only 14 episodes that the industry thought the sci-fi market was dead.

That's why when Lucas approached Mego to make the figure line for Star Wars, an unknown property at that point, they passed because they were already eating crow on the unsold figures from the Apes movies and shows. So when Star Wars exploded, Kenner had gotten the license and had to race to get something made. Enter the insane popularity of the 3 3/4 inch figures and the end of the Mego 8 inch era.

So Star Wars changed the face of everything in pop culture. It changed not only the subject matter of what people watched, but how they watched it, and what the kids played with for merchandise. Plus it forever changed how movies were made and marketed. No follow up film was going to match that achievement no matter how it was structured.And they still haven't made one to top it yet either. That's why people like me who were in theaters for that first film hold such reverence to the title, because it was utter magic back in 1977. There was NOTHING like it anywhere. Star Wars was not a movie, it was an event.

When you saw that film, suddenly everything felt possible. Anything that could be imagined suddenly felt obtainable because this movie made something this far out, seem strangely real. It was a neat time to be a kid and ride that wave of wonderment. Today's films at best can only pay homage to it. That's lightening in a bottle we won't see again for a long time. When you say Star Wars to me, there was (and is) only one Star Wars. Everything after that is the subtitle stuff. It will never hold a candle to that first film. And history continues to support that perspective.

 

[007]

Yeah, no. Justice League was garbage. This was much better.

Both were as bad a each other.

Justice league was an incoherent mess, but at least it had decent actors.

Star wars was more coherent but still a mess, with far less talented cast.

Justice league more dissapointing though because i care about the franchise and characters more.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Both were as bad a each other.

Justice league was an incoherent mess, but at least it had decent actors.

Star wars was more coherent but still a mess, with far less talented cast.

Justice league more dissapointing though because i care about the franchise and characters more.

Agree to disagree on TLJ, but yes...JL was a hot mess.

 

[007]

The last night was worse than both.

Also the snowman was woeful.

and a bet any money bright will be absolute garbage.

 

[harlequinade]

Both were as bad a each other.

Justice league was an incoherent mess, but at least it had decent actors.

Star wars was more coherent but still a mess, with far less talented cast.

Justice league more dissapointing though because i care about the franchise and characters more.

Um....Star Wars has Driver, Isaac and more importantly Del Toro and Dern. That alone puts it way above JL which had Simmons, but barely, Irons and Miller. The rest as good as they are aren't really in Del Toro and Dern's league

So it's even worse that SW is less entertaining, imho of course, than JL. but at least Dern shone, even if it was in such a dumb storyline

 

[007]

So much garbage this year. Thor, JL, TLJ.

Thor was an incredible movie that was universally praised and loved.

 

[007]

Um....Star Wars has Driver, Isaac and more importantly Del Toro and Dern. That alone puts it way above JL which had Simmons, but barely, Irons and Miller. The rest as good as they are aren't really in Del Toro and Dern's league

So it's even worse that SW is less entertaining, imho of course, than JL. but at least Dern shone, even if it was in such a dumb storyline

Driver and Isaac are poor. driver is especially woeful, easily one of the worst parts of the the new trilogy.

Cast is utter rubbish.

 

[harlequinade]

Thor was an incredible movie that was universally praised and loved.

Well Consona and few others clearly render that claim wrong

 

[harlequinade]

Driver and Isaac are poor. driver is especially woeful, easily one of the worst parts of the the new trilogy.

Cast is utter rubbish.

Calling the cast containing such talent 'rubbish'? Really?

 

[007]

Calling the cast containing such talent 'rubbish'? Really?

del toro is not enough to make up for the others lac of talent.

driver has never been in anything that ive been impressed with hm by and isaac nearly ruined an entire x men film with him performance.

Ridley and Boyega dont warrant discussion, woeful.

hamill was good though.