Rumsfeld flees France fearing arrest!

I dare the French to come over and try and take him....

you would all cave in like children the MINUTE that regularly scheduled programming was not available.
so, seriously, this posturing is really unbecoming.

I also like how YOU dare the French.
I'm sure the whole of France is all a quiver.:whatever:
 
my point is, it is a pointless thing unless the French actually get their hands on Rumsfeld and I would hope they do. Roman Polanski lives in France and hes a child molester, and yet the French havent done anything to him yet......but he only violated an american girl so I guess the French don't really care about that...
 
my point is, it is a pointless thing unless the French actually get their hands on Rumsfeld and I would hope they do. Roman Polanski lives in France and hes a child molester, and yet the French havent done anything to him yet......but he only violated an american girl so I guess the French don't really care about that...

Person who many believe is guilty of war crimes > kid ****er
 
Person who many believe is guilty of war crimes > kid ****er

Belief is not due process.......I am not saying he is innocent or guilty.....if the French want to charge him, fine.....but they look like morons to the rest of the world if they cant get their hands on him....
 
my point is, it is a pointless thing unless the French actually get their hands on Rumsfeld and I would hope they do. Roman Polanski lives in France and hes a child molester, and yet the French havent done anything to him yet......but he only violated an american girl so I guess the French don't really care about that...

France refuses to extradite it's citizens, which Polanski is. American and French extradition treaties acknowledge this. But he could still be extradited from other countries if he visits them, so to avoid possible extradition, he travels only to countries that would not extradite him.
 
then wouldnt the same law/rule apply to Rumsfeld if he was "tried"??...
 
my point is, it is a pointless thing unless the French actually get their hands on Rumsfeld and I would hope they do. Roman Polanski lives in France and hes a child molester, and yet the French havent done anything to him yet......but he only violated an american girl so I guess the French don't really care about that...

uh, why?
why must you do this?
first of all, apples and oranges.
second, do you really, honestly think that French people "don't care" about American Girls getting "raped" ( if statutorily so) ?
I don't really think you do, much like I don't really think you wouldn't care if a French girl got raped.
 
uh, why?
why must you do this?
first of all, apples and oranges.
second, do you really, honestly think that French people "don't care" about American Girls getting "raped" ( if statutorily so) ?
I don't really think you do, much like I don't really think you wouldn't care if a French girl got raped.

Rape is bad, regardless of nation....and I personally think France is doing this to make themselves look tough in the international community....
 
Rape is bad, regardless of nation....and I personally think France is doing this to make themselves look tough in the international community....

yeah, meddling in the affairs of other countries is a sure fire way to loose the respect of all other nations.
they should know that.

by now.
 
I'm not sure whether the U.S. has a policy of non-extradition regarding it's citizens.

I'm fairly sure the US government is not going to turn over a former government official to a foreign country....
 
This should be the fate of everyone in the Bush administration after 2008.
 
This should be the fate of everyone in the Bush administration after 2008.

what fate? be charged in absentia in France.....so they just cant go to France anymore...big flippin deal....This whole war has become a mess, but some of the far left seem to have this jerk off fantasy of those in the administration being impeached or prosecuted for war crimes and it is NOT going to happen Bush is going to leave office and go back to Crawford, maybe write a book and disappear quietly......
 
If only they could capture Bush...

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Actually,with what Bush has done to his own country and the world..he does deserve that.
 
what fate? be charged in absentia in France.....so they just cant go to France anymore...big flippin deal....This whole war has become a mess, but some of the far left seem to have this jerk off fantasy of those in the administration being impeached or prosecuted for war crimes and it is NOT going to happen Bush is going to leave office and go back to Crawford, maybe write a book and disappear quietly......

I'm skeptical about the war crimes stuff, but I think it could be an impeachable offense. About a couple weeks ago, I read John Dean's book "Worse than Watergate" and there was an interesting section in it.

In "Public Law 107-243", the joint resolution of congress that authorized use of force against Iraq, there were 23 "whereas" clauses. These are introductory statements, essentially window dressing and pretty much opinions. They have no legal binding effect. The only section that has a "legal binding effect" is what comes after the "resolving clause"- "Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled".

Congress then gave the unprecedented authority to the president of launching a war without further advance notice of Congress. But Congress did want a formal determination by the president, within 48 hours of using force or before doing so, stating that (1) further diplomatic means alone would not resolve the "continuing threat" and (2) the military action was part of the overall response to terrorism, including dealing with those involved in "the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001." Essentially, Congress wanted the president to prove 2 points that were the central themes of his argument for war.

On March 18, 2001 the president sent his formal "determination" to Congress, which used the language of Public Law 107-243" as his determination. Accompanying this "determination" (a letter sent to the Speaker of the House and the president of the Senate) was the "Report in Connection with Presidential Determination under Public Law 107-243." To quote H.L. Mencken "It is rumble and bumble, it is flap and doodle, it is balder and dash."

The report explains that the president made his determination by relying on congressional findings of fact, which never existed. Example- for the American with Disabilities Act, Congress had it's own inquiry which was explained after the statement "the Congress finds that...." Basically, The president relied on information that the White House provided Congress for its draft resolution, then turned around and claimed that this information came from Congress.

The rest of the report used various "whereas clauses" of the joint resolution as Congressional findings, or statements of fact.
 
Wow... is everybody on Capitol Hill illiterate or something? Because if that's true, it's outrageous that nobody in Congress caught that and called him on it.
 
the problem with impeachment is that it is a lengthy and time consuming process and no other legislation gets through while it is going on......even if the Articles of Impeachment get passed and that requires a majority vote in both the house and the senate.......you still need 2/3 vote across the board to convict......and that wont happen........
 
Rape is bad, regardless of nation....and I personally think France is doing this to make themselves look tough in the international community....

Was it statuatory? Depending on how old the girl was that's a bit different then actual rape...
 
Was it statuatory? Depending on how old the girl was that's a bit different then actual rape...



1.- I like your avatar
2.- though it WAS statutory, the girl was 13 so yuck.
 

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