Running Time Confusion

[CelticPredator]

Heh. I shoulda. My outline is really basic.

Fox sucks

AvP- PG-13

ect...

I went over the AvP incident, then the Die Hard crap....and then the X-3 vs. Superman.

But the one that got the best reaction was, I showed people Deadpool from the comics...then MoviePool. They went "WTF!?" It was awesome.

 

[sniktsnakt]

I had a dream that I went to the movie and it was amazing. Over two hours, with a good half of the movie with Weapon X/War scenes before the Adamantium.

Yeah. One can dream, but that's about it.

 

[craigdbfan]

I'd recommend you to get the X-Men Origins: Wolverine game for the 360 when its released. It looks heaps better than the film. In tone,story,look, and violence.

X-Men Origins Wolverine HD Trailer

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[Andreth]

to contribute with the confussion: a member of the Gambit guild saw the movie at a secret screening with some network executives of her country, the past weekend and this is what she wrote:

...Since I haven't seen the leaked version, I couldn't say which scenes were added. But one of the execs who did get to watch the leak said that there are probably 15 minutes worth of additional scenes. It's long, but evenly paced. Didn't find myself getting bored...

 

[neemer5]

to contribute with the confussion: a member of the Gambit guild saw the movie at a secret screening with some network executives of her country, the past weekend and this is what she wrote:

Let's hope... although I am not holding my breath.

Let's say they did cut 10 minutes of the worst, most pointless parts of the film, and added 10 minutes that are on-par with the best parts. I would be satisfied.

 

[Timstuff]

Heh. I shoulda. My outline is really basic.

Fox sucks

AvP- PG-13

ect...

I went over the AvP incident, then the Die Hard crap....and then the X-3 vs. Superman.

But the one that got the best reaction was, I showed people Deadpool from the comics...then MoviePool. They went "WTF!?" It was awesome.

With AVP, that was the real turning point for Fox IMO. James Cameron wanted to make Alien 5 as a collaboration with Ridley Scott, with Cameron writing / producing and Scott directing, and there was even talk of having Arnold Schwarzenegger as the movie's star (but that quickly was dropped when he ran for Governor). However, Fox didn't like the fact that the movie would have cost well over 100 million dollars, so they instead took Paul Anderson's Alien vs. Predator pitch, hot on the heels of the cinematic trash that was Resident Evil. They actually turned down a pitch from two of Hollywood's greatest minds in favor of a B-movie hack! That pretty much says everything about where Fox is going wrong.

 

[Milu]

I wish you had recorded it or had it in written form. I would love to hear/read it.

Me too .

 

[CelticPredator]

The whole class loved it. They were laughing, and enjoying themselves. No other speech has done that thus far.

 

[bullets]

Let's hope... although I am not holding my breath.

Let's say they did cut 10 minutes of the worst, most pointless parts of the film, and added 10 minutes that are on-par with the best parts. I would be satisfied.

Well the guy said "probably" 15 more scenes. Still not sure what to believe. The only good thing is that I will never watch the workprint.

 

[night0205]

The thing is people, the workprint was not done edited...i mean even ff, elektra, and x3 were better edited then that. If they didn't edit it down, then the pacing would be horrid. I think they edited it down, and added some scenes in.... But who knows. I just know that the movie will be a completely different experience from the workprint.

 

[Dark Victory]

The whole class loved it. They were laughing, and enjoying themselves. No other speech has done that thus far.

This film works as an enjoyable popcorn flick to the GA which is what I've feared for the last three years.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

There is evidence that the work print is NOT the final version.

There are TONS of lines and shots that have been heavily promoted in trailers and TV spots that AREN'T in the work print.

There is also evidence that the work print IS the final version.

The runtimes we are getting are the same as the work print, and X-Men 3 also had tons of scenes heavily promoted that aren't in the actual movie.

Who knows what to believe?

 

[TNC9852002]

I know...I'm remembering this.

This is like I said before about last-minute edits that people usually never see because they're done pretty much after the film is almost released or while the commercials are still being put together. There will definitely be some minor changes in some shots, lines of dialogue, angles, and maybe the order of a few scenes.

Aside from the special effects and the score, it's far fetched to believe that the workprint and the final film will be exactly the same in every way.

 

[Andreth]

yeah I mean, in one scene one character is 10 ft away and the next second he's standing right next to wolverine, there HAS to be something in between...

 

[Deaths Head II]

yeah I mean, in one scene one character is 10 ft away and the next second he's standing right next to wolverine, there HAS to be something in between...

Yeah, the CGI version of that character running to Wolverine.

 

[CelticPredator]

There is evidence that the work print is NOT the final version.

There are TONS of lines and shots that have been heavily promoted in trailers and TV spots that AREN'T in the work print.

There is also evidence that the work print IS the final version.

The runtimes we are getting are the same as the work print, and X-Men 3 also had tons of scenes heavily promoted that aren't in the actual movie.

Who knows what to believe?

I havent seen one clip in any trailer, that wasnt in the work print.

 

[icelemt38]

There's been dialogue with Gambit that weren't in the workprint but are featured in the commercials.

 

[chaseter]

There's been dialogue with Gambit that weren't in the workprint but are featured in the commercials.

There is a lot of stuff in the commercials that will not make the movie. X3 had a lot of dialogue that was changed or cut. TDK had a lot of different takes on the same dialogue. So what you see in the tv spots doesn't mean you will see it in the movie.

 

[dark_b]

There is a lot of stuff in the commercials that will not make the movie. X3 had a lot of dialogue that was changed or cut. TDK had a lot of different takes on the same dialogue. So what you see in the tv spots doesn't mean you will see it in the movie.

i agree.

remember the scene where peter sees venom in hes mirror? was not in the movie.

they also have alternate takes .


so for now everything was in the movie.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I havent seen one clip in any trailer, that wasnt in the work print.

Then you either A.) didn't watch the workprint and just mindlessly bash it for the sake of bashing it or B.) did watch it, but didn't gather in everything.

I'll give the benefit of the doubt and say B.

But trust me, there are MAJOR selling points of the trailers, and TV spots, that are not in the work print. There is one thing in particular that has been in just about every piece of promo since the comic-con trailer that didn't make it into the work print.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I love the whole dialogue of the deaf going on with the running time and those 10 brand new minutes which appear to be an utter fabrication.

Frankly, this is like the only answer we've been to get in the past few day:

Q: So apprently this workprint is missing 10 minutes of footage shot during the reshoot but the theatrical cut has the same length as the workprint version? What's that all about?

Fox: The workprint is not a completed cut, there's missing FX, the music is temporary, some wireworks are still visible, some dialogs haven't been recorded, there's no digital grading whatsoever.

Yeah I know but what about the content? Can you tell us more about the new footage?

Fox: As we said, this is not the final cut, the editing is nowhere near polished, the visual effects aren't completed, the music is temporary, some wireworks are still visible, some dialogs haven't been recorded, there's no digital grading whatsoever.

And round and round we go...

By the way, allociné says the film is 1h45 long.
http://www.allocine.fr/film/fichefilm_gen_cfilm=111544.html

Ha ha, this is pretty much spot on, Fox always seem to be trying to dodge the run-time when any questions about the leak surface.

 

[SWAT]

2939 m.; 107:25. It's the lenght the Norwegian rating board has it as.

Also rated 15 for being dark and with violent scenes that 11 year old could find scary

 

[JL Unlimited]

From AICN:

Sometimes there are clauses prohibiting us from writing about a movie before a certain date ("embargo"). But this was different: we had to sign a clause that we wouldn't even TALK about the movie until two days prior to its US release, especially on the web. I found that quite odd.

Add to that recent reports that the finished version is as long as the leaked workprint, even though FOX stubbornly insists that the workprint is missing the material from the reshoots. It makes sense, too, as the trailers have scenes that are not featured in the workprint (Wolverine carrying his girlfriend to the beach, a young Ororo in Nigeria).

Well, having seen the finished film, the mystery is solved: the workprint version IS in fact identical to the release print, sans effect and some audio work. It's obvious that FOX is trying their darndest to keep this news from getting out, because it will eliminate most of the motivation for people who have seen the workprint to pay for a ticket.

Some scenes from the trailer are not in the finished version, either.

The finished effects are lackluster, to say the least - some really bad CGI work made me groan numerous times (especially, but not restricted to, Patrick Stewart's cameo). The scene with Stewart looks so much better in the workprint - trying to digitally de-age him did NOT work this time around...

Good pacing, good lead performances, and some cool comic book fights overcome a non-existing story, horrible dialog (including the classic "I'm so cold..."), and criminally underdeveloped characters. It's a fun flick, but it will never be considered one of the great comic book movies of our time (like Iron Man, Dark Knight, Watchmen, etc.). They also have to jump through some ridiculous hoops to reset all the relationships to properly connect it to the first "X-Men" movie (unnecessary, I think - who seriously gives a ****?).

 

[chaseter]

^HAHA

 

[3 Dev Adam]

yeah I mean, in one scene one character is 10 ft away and the next second he's standing right next to wolverine, there HAS to be something in between...

Unless it's Wraith.

The Finished/Theatrical Version Of WOLVERINE Has Been Seen!! Just How Different Is It From That Workprint??

Spoiler

Merrick here...


When the workprint of WOLVERINE leaked a few weeks back, we heard a great deal from Fox about how said print represented a different edit of the film than we'd see in theaters. We heard how recently shot footage was still to be incorporated into the movie, and were told the leaked version was months old (despite the presence of FX time-stamped only a week or two before the leak).
So, many of us have been wondering exactly how the final version of WOLVERINE would differ from its workprint iteration.
Veritas sent in the following message after viewing the edit we'll be seeing in theaters, also including an aside about a conspiracy of silence surrounding advance screenings of the film.


Here's Veritas...

Sometimes there are clauses prohibiting us from writing about a movie before a certain date ("embargo"). But this was different: we had to sign a clause that we wouldn't even TALK about the movie until two days prior to its US release, especially on the web. I found that quite odd.
Add to that recent reports that the finished version is as long as the leaked workprint, even though FOX stubbornly insists that the workprint is missing the material from the reshoots. It makes sense, too, as the trailers have scenes that are not featured in the workprint (Wolverine carrying his girlfriend to the beach, a young Ororo in Nigeria).
Well, having seen the finished film, the mystery is solved: the workprint version IS in fact identical to the release print, sans effect and some audio work. It's obvious that FOX is trying their darndest to keep this news from getting out, because it will eliminate most of the motivation for people who have seen the workprint to pay for a ticket.
Some scenes from the trailer are not in the finished version, either.
The finished effects are lackluster, to say the least - some really bad CGI work made me groan numerous times (especially, but not restricted to, Patrick Stewart's cameo). The scene with Stewart looks so much better in the workprint - trying to digitally de-age him did NOT work this time around...
Good pacing, good lead performances, and some cool comic book fights overcome a non-existing story, horrible dialog (including the classic "I'm so cold..."), and criminally underdeveloped characters. It's a fun flick, but it will never be considered one of the great comic book movies of our time (like Iron Man, Dark Knight, Watchmen, etc.). They also have to jump through some ridiculous hoops to reset all the relationships to properly connect it to the first "X-Men" movie (unnecessary, I think - who seriously gives a ****?).
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