Santa Claus, a false idol

[Franklin Richards]

Jesus probably wasn't even born.

Fixed.

 

[huskerwebhead]

And its not reincarnation that SOME christian groups are asking to be mentioned in schools - its the Creation story. And those groups arent demanding anything to be removed from the science curriculum, just that creationism be added to the mix.

Creationism (as well as the theory of reincarnation) shouldn't be added to the science curriculum because there is ZERO evidence that we were created by a magical being in the sky, and therefore it is pseudo-science. If public schools want to teach it in optional religious theory classes, that's fine by me. But don't insert something which isn't scientific AT ALL into a science class EVERYONE has to take.

Not to hijack the thread but I agree with JManspice. There is no physical evidence that can be tested to help support Creationism. Nothing that can be tested. The scientific theory cannot be applied to it in any way. If we start including creationism into Science class we might as well introduce Alchemy into chemistry.

 

[SuBe]

Santa Claus is not a "Fasle Idol", he is a Socialist.

He runs a facist government over the "Worker Class" (elfs=Tax payers), confiscates their property (toyes=taxes) and distrubutes it to people that didn't work for it (the kiddies=welfare recipients). All for the fame and admiration of the people he gives to.

He is no better than Lenin and Mussolini. He even wears RED for crying out loud!

 

[Cracker Jack]

I should be Fixed.

Fixed

 

[Franklin Richards]

Bah!

Shouldn't you be in Grant Park beggin'?

 

[chaseter]

That's pretty much what I wanted to say.

About Jesus beating the crap out of Claus?t:

 

[The Squirrel]

About Jesus beating the crap out of Claus?t:

Jesus would utterly destroy Claus.

 

[BlueLightning]

I believe in God, and I am catholic. I think we must not confuse the phenomenon of Santa Claus with Saint Nicholas. The thing is that in a modernized culture like this, with commercialism things tend to get a treatment like this.

Same goes with the Easter Bunny, who I believe is a more grave thing.

 

[The Squirrel]

DUR. Obviously reincarnation is NOT a Christian principle, it is a Hindu principle. Creationism (as well as the theory of reincarnation) shouldn't be added to the science curriculum because there is ZERO evidence that we were created by a magical being in the sky, and therefore it is pseudo-science. If public schools want to teach it in optional religious theory classes, that's fine by me. But don't insert something which isn't scientific AT ALL into a science class EVERYONE has to take.

For some reason evolution was skipped in my public high school classes, so what proof is there in the THEORY of evolution?

 

[chaseter]

I believe in God, and I am catholic. I think we must not confuse the phenomenon of Santa Claus with Saint Nicholas. The thing is that in a modernized culture like this, with commercialism things tend to get a treatment like this.

Same goes with the Easter Bunny, who I believe is a more grave thing.

A Catholic talking about what is wrong with religion/society There could have been more than one Saint Nick

 

[Franklin Richards]

For some reason evolution was skipped in my public high school classes, so what proof is there in the THEORY of evolution?

Please read the definition of Scientific Theory.

 

[Cracker Jack]

Bah!

Shouldn't you be in Grant Park beggin'?

Why, is that a good place to beg?

 

[chaseter]

For some reason evolution was skipped in my public high school classes, so what proof is there in the THEORY of evolution?

We had evolution in jr. high only because my teacher was an atheist. In high school, we didn't delve into it either. In college, that is when I got the entire spectrum of evolution and I am thankful for that. I understand so much now and I am glad I am not a blind follower anymore I am still a theist, but I would say I am a much more educated one. The problem with religion lies in man, not in religion itself. One day, someone said that evolution was an atheist notion and then it spread like wildfire. Science and theism can go hand in hand...but both sides will go out of their way to disprove either side for some odd reason.

 

[The Squirrel]

Please read the definition of Scientific Theory.

"In science the word theory is not a synonym of "fact". For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the center of the planet but we invoke theories of gravity to explain this occurrence. However, even inside the sciences the word theory picks out several different concepts dependent on the context. In casual speech scientists don't use the term theory in a particularly precise fashion, allowing historical accidents to determine whether a given body of scientific work is called a theory, law, principle or something else. For instance Einstein's relativity is usually called "the theory of relativity" while Newton's theory of gravity often is called "the law of gravity." In this kind of casual use by scientists the word theory can be used flexibly to refer to whatever kind of explanation or prediction is being examined. It is for this instance that a scientific theory is a claim based on a body of evidence."

I am just asking what the evidence is, cause last time I checked, we hadn't discovered monkey-man yet.

 

[BlueLightning]

A Catholic talking about what is wrong with religion/society There could have been more than one Saint Nick

Maybe. Still the way the society traits Santa Claus, is kind of a gimmick or an excuse for parents togive something to their childrens.

I don´t despise this idea, I like the give and receive Christmas trait, but without forgetting the true meaning. I like Santa Claus as a fictional character, nothing more.

 

[chaseter]

Maybe. Still the way the society traits Santa Claus, is kind of a gimmick or an excuse for parents togive something to their childrens.

I don´t despise this idea, I like the give and receive Christmas trait, but without forgetting the true meaning. I like Santa Claus as a fictional character, nothing more.

Sorry but I have many more beefs with Catholicism than I do with Santa Claus

 

[mrvlknight21]

Santa Claus is just the character with a nice story that has come to be associated with the holiday. I dont think anyone is worshipping him, at least not any more than someone worshipping the Easter Bunny @ Easter.

Franklin, even if you are not a Christian, I have heard of a number of historical accounts that say that Jesus was born.

It looks like this is turning into a creationism thread unfortunately.

 

[The Squirrel]

We had evolution in jr. high only because my teacher was an atheist. In high school, we didn't delve into it either. In college, that is when I got the entire spectrum of evolution and I am thankful for that. I understand so much now and I am glad I am not a blind follower anymore I am still a theist, but I would say I am a much more educated one. The problem with religion lies in man, not in religion itself. One day, someone said that evolution was an atheist notion and then it spread like wildfire. Science and theism can go hand in hand...but both sides will go out of their way to disprove either side for some odd reason.

Science can go hand in hand with my belief in God. Usually, science only strengthens my belief. But, as far as I know, we haven't discovered the "missing link" to show we came from monkeys.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

Never did trust that fat B@stard.

I mean who breaks into your house and your fine with it?

You know he prolly steals something even if he gives you something.

 

[BlueLightning]

Sorry but I have many more beefs with Catholicism than I do with Santa Claus

Fair enough.

 

[The Senator]

For some reason evolution was skipped in my public high school classes, so what proof is there in the THEORY of evolution?

There are numerous cases involving animal and plant species where evolution appears relevant.

There is nothing which indicates man was created with the snap of a finger.

The difference between evolution and "intelligent design" is that evolution is a scientific theory, while intelligent design is a religious or supernatural theory.

 

[chaseter]

Science can go hand in hand with my belief in God. Usually, science only strengthens my belief. But, as far as I know, we haven't discovered the "missing link" to show we came from monkeys.

We didn't come from monkeys

 

[chaseter]

Never did trust that fat B@stard.

I mean who breaks into your house and your fine with it?

You know he prolly steals something even if he gives you something.

You as Santa Claus would be the ultimate creepy

 

[The Squirrel]

There are numerous cases involving animal and plant species where evolution appears relevant.

There is nothing which indicates man was created with the snap of a finger.

The difference between evolution and "intelligent design" is that evolution is a scientific theory, while intelligent design is a religious or supernatural theory.

Well I don't even believe that, so that's not relevant. God didn't just snap his finger. He took his time. It definitely didn't happen in our concept of time of seven literal days.

And animals and plants can change over time, adapt to environment and such. But this doesn't prove evolution.

 

[The Squirrel]

We didn't come from monkeys

I know that. But do "they" know?