The Dark Knight Scarecrow

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Scarecrow will

  • Help/Create the "Joker" toxin and team up with Mister J

  • Teamup,try to control J by using his toxin without effect

  • Team up and then be killed

  • fight each other for the same thing


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No, it's not new:
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Yeah, it just confused me because of the shot cutting off at the bottom, it looks like the rope is over his shoulders and the noose is hanging over the left-side of his chest, but of course that's the rope part, and it's the noose around the neck.

:hyper:
 
Because of the low interest in Batman Begins I'll post this here.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=301792

I have a question, does anyone know the reason why Scarecrow/Crane at the end of Begins states "I'm hear to help!" to the boy and Rachel? It makes me wonder, by his tone and voice if he was actually going to help them out of the Narrows.

Rachel tells the "they wouldn't believe me" kid that no one will hurt him, then Crane comes by on his horse and says "of course they are" in his menacing voice. Dawes, in confusion, asks "Crane?" then he says "No! Scarecrow!" (Keep in mind he never states that "of he course is")

It skips to the Loeb then the Batman/Gordon scene. Then at 1:56 goes to the main scene, where Crane, after finding Dawes and the boy, still in his pursuit, says "there you are". "There is nothing to fear but fear it self" He then changes his tone completely and appears to raise out his hand and says in a sincere manner "I'm here to help" and she of course raises her arm and shocks him in the head. He then rides off into the night screaming.

This was all with subtitles. Just found this out recently when I watched the movie again. Why the hell would he do that? It doesn't look like he's about to trick her, not at all. And changing his voice seems strange to me. Unfortunately they never go into to much detail about it. This always always puzzled me, could he have turned over a new leaf? Maybe getting gassed made him think sanely? I just don't understand it. He sounded, again, sincere to me, and it really doesn't help that he states he's "there to help".
I really hope he has a decent part to play in the Dark Knight.

I wonder if this has any bearing on Jonathan Crane's/Scarecrow's characteristics in the Dark Knight?
 
For me, Scarecrow meaned, with his ''I'm here to help'', that he would ''cure'' their fear, by killing them, or something like that.
 
I'd have to watch that again, 'cause I didn't catch that. Maybe it was a little bit of dialogue between Rachel and Crane before she shocked him that was cut out of the film?
 
I don't think Crane sincerely wanting to help anyone is very likely. He's a homicidal sociopath who gets a kick out of terrorizing people to an inch of their life and never shows much sign of being anything else in the comics, or in Batman Begins IMO.
 
He said the ''I'm here to help'', as menacing as he said ''The only thing to fear is fear itself''.
 
Sorry, but for me, he only sounds... Rushing. Like he is tired or ''forcing'' his voice.
 
I always see that scene as Crane having gone bat**** insane by then, literally thinking of himself as Scarecrow, and running around in this gleeful high as his fear gas spreads everywhere and terrified people are running all around him. He's having the time of his life right up until Rachel tazes him in the face, IMO.

I think it's a nice attention to detail that in the TDK pic of Scarecrow it looks like you can see the burn from the tazer on his mask.
 
I always understood it as Crane saying

"You have nothing to fear but fear itself"
"I'm here to help you fear the fear"
 
I understood "I am here to help" as an Ironic statement. He is a doctor after all and doctors are usually meant to help. He had no intention of helping them, just a something to provoke fear through use of irony.
 
Yeah, it just confused me because of the shot cutting off at the bottom, it looks like the rope is over his shoulders and the noose is hanging over the left-side of his chest, but of course that's the rope part, and it's the noose around the neck.

:hyper:

yeah I can tell it isn't new.
 
Same here, totally didn't notice that before
 
:hehe:
WOW I didnt even notice that, thats badass!

I'm still trying to figure out how people noticed it. They had to have gone frame to frame pausing the trailer the entire time. I can't wait to see Scarecrow!
 
I'm still trying to figure out how people noticed it. They had to have gone frame to frame pausing the trailer the entire time. I can't wait to see Scarecrow!

The Scarecrow is so small that he looks like a little old lady behind the wheel, LMFAO.
 
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