The Dark Knight Scarecrow

[Mr. Socko]

I thought about that but ultimately came to the conclusion that he survived due in part to his, and the Riddler's attire both being seen in Arkham in Batman & Robin. It may be a bit contradictory, but that's Joel Schumacher for you.

 

[Gianakin_]

Eh, I don't think so. I think his clothes were more of a cameo or a self-tribute, than an actual indication of his survival. No matter how fantastical his world was, I don't think Harvey survived. We'd at least have gotten an indication in the Arkham Asylum, like with Nygma. 2-Fae knew Batman's identity, too, so I don't think Schumacher would show us Meridian asking Nygma ONLY.

 

[Savage]

I'd prefer a mix between half the villains dying and half being sent to Arkham. You can't just have 100% of the villains be sent to prison. These superhero film series last a trilogy, more or less.This isn't a television show nor a comic book, it's not on-going. While I'm sure The Joker won't die in TDK, having every villain being sent to Arkham at the end of every Batman film would be a terrible idea.

You've got to have some kind of closure, and sending everyone to Arkham just doesn't do it like it does in a comic book, which will never end. But as I said, I still prefer a mix of half the villains dying and half being sent away, or even open ended deaths. Schumacher didn't kill any villains and we see how that went. In Begins, Ra's died(in an open ended death) and Scarecrow has yet to be apprehended, that's great. But what if at the end of Batman 3, the end of the trilogy, there was just a villain on the loose with no conclusion. It worked for Begins because it was the first film.

Edit: I believe Scarecrow may(or may not) survive TDK, but in Part 3 I see Two-Face being killed. And Joker surviving TDK and Batman 3.

I agree with that to a point but all you have to do is mix it up a bit. Leave an open ended death maybe or have the character mentally damaged or put in a coma or the hospital or something. Daredevil did it pretty well with The Kingpin going to prison while Bullseye is left in traction.

I would actually like to see The Joker with a broken jaw in the third movie and not even able to laugh as The Batman stares at him on top of a building through an Arkham window or something.

 

[COMPO]

what if teh villian was thought to be dead.

 

[Rorschach II]

I'd prefer a mix between half the villains dying and half being sent to Arkham. You can't just have 100% of the villains be sent to prison. These superhero film series last a trilogy, more or less.This isn't a television show nor a comic book, it's not on-going. While I'm sure The Joker won't die in TDK, having every villain being sent to Arkham at the end of every Batman film would be a terrible idea.

You've got to have some kind of closure, and sending everyone to Arkham just doesn't do it like it does in a comic book, which will never end. But as I said, I still prefer a mix of half the villains dying and half being sent away, or even open ended deaths. Schumacher didn't kill any villains and we see how that went. In Begins, Ra's died(in an open ended death) and Scarecrow has yet to be apprehended, that's great. But what if at the end of Batman 3, the end of the trilogy, there was just a villain on the loose with no conclusion. It worked for Begins because it was the first film.

Edit: I believe Scarecrow may(or may not) survive TDK, but in Part 3 I see Two-Face being killed. And Joker surviving TDK and Batman 3.

What part about falling several stories in a train, careening through a parking garage, and finally slamming into a wall causing the train your on to explode was open ended?

 

[Gianakin_]

That he's Ra's Al ghul. Knowing the premise from the comics, Nolan didn't outright confirm or deny the Lazarus Pits. In fact, he nodded both against and for their existences. He died alright- but will he stay dead? The next director after Nolan has plenty of freedom of movement.

 

[Savage]

lol Well he is Ra's. He can be brought back from ash if he felt like it.

 

[Rory gets laid]

What part about falling several stories in a train, careening through a parking garage, and finally slamming into a wall causing the train your on to explode was open ended?

Umm...did they actually show his body/remains?

 

[Rorschach II]

So we may get a pit of liquid that brings people back from the dead (even from "ash", as someone put it), but a vat of chemicals that bleaches your skin and dyes your hair green is too "unrealistic"?

 

[Symbiotic]

Umm...did they actually show his body/remains?

To quote Batman: "Ra's Al Ghul is dead."

 

[Gianakin_]

So we may get a pit of liquid that brings people back from the dead (even from "ash", as someone put it), but a vat of chemicals that bleaches your skin and dyes your hair green is too "unrealistic"?

Seeing that I never was part of the "acid is unrealistic" arguent, I believe that a Lazarus Pit is possible, if not in the Nolan Trilogy, then after that.

 

[Symbiotic]

Seeing that I never was part of the "acid is unrealistic" arguent, I believe that a Lazarus Pit is possible, if not in the Nolan Trilogy, then after that.

Agreed. I don't expect to ever see a Lazurus Pit in the Nolan movies.

 

[Rory gets laid]

So we may get a pit of liquid that brings people back from the dead (even from "ash", as someone put it), but a vat of chemicals that bleaches your skin and dyes your hair green is too "unrealistic"?

Dude, you're the one who asked what made it open-ended...they didn't bother explaining what happened, which left it OPEN to interpretation, regardless of what everyone thought.

 

[Rorschach II]

Maybe you weren't part of that argument, but apparently Christopher Nolan is.

 

[Rory gets laid]

So...

...anyone hear that joke about "the Aristocrats"??

 

[Rorschach II]

Dude, you're the one who asked what made it open-ended...they didn't bother explaining what happened, which left it OPEN to interpretation, regardless of what everyone thought.

I'd say a train accident like the one seen in Begins doesn't need much explanation.

If Ra's comes back from charred, chopped up remains because of some big pit of ****, that's gonna be completely out of left field and won't fit in Nolan's universe at all.

 

[Gianakin_]

Maybe you weren't part of that argument, but apparently Christopher Nolan is.

The point is, Nolan didn't ouright tell us that the LPs don't exist. He just didn't say they do. So, the next director is free to do what he wants with the concept. It's actually a great example of how Nolan doesn't ruin everything with his "realism".

 

[Rory gets laid]

I'd say a train accident like the one seen in Begins doesn't need much explanation.

If Ra's comes back from charred, chopped up remains because of some big pit of ****, that's gonna be completely out of left field and won't fit in Nolan's universe at all.

Fair enough, but what are the odds of that happening?

 

[Rorschach II]

I want DKR after Nolan's done =D

 

[Rory gets laid]

I want DKR after Nolan's done =D

I want Nolan after TDK's done.

 

[Gianakin_]

Rorschach: Heh, who doesn't (but not necessarily after the Nolan Trilogy)?

 

[Rorschach II]

Well, if you place a DKR release date in 2014 (seeing as most people are placing the third Batman film's release date in 2011 and it takes 2 - 3 years between sequels), Michael Keaton would probably be 62 - 63. Just putting that out there ; )

 

[hegele]

... i don't like to think about the Batman series after Nolan. Thats like thinking about potential girlfriends/wives while your current love is dying of cancer. You know she'll be gone soon, but you love her more than anything and she still has some great years left.

 

[Savage]

...Wow...That is the best analogy that I have ever read.

 

[Argyle of Sock]

... i don't like to think about the Batman series after Nolan. Thats like thinking about potential girlfriends/wives while your current love is dying of cancer. You know she'll be gone soon, but you love her more than anything and she still has some great years left.

You're comparing the current Batman series to a person dying of cancer? Seems to me like it's currently in it's prime, so a better analogy would be to think about future relationships when you are right in the middle of a happy, fulfilling one.