The Dark Knight Scarecrow

[bkey]

There is a picture of him without it sitting with the Batmen, were they filming or just sitting around?

I'm pretty sure that it was in between takes or something, and not during filming.

 

[The Battousai]

also it would be kind of pointless to bring back cillian murphy if you aren't going to show his face.. You could get some lousy intern to do the role and just say it was cillian

So he's just going to stand there and look ugly for the camera?

 

[bkey]

I dont think it matters if we see his face or not. Its the way he acts and portrays the character, not his face, that makes the scarecrow; granted he did look pretty freaking creepy in BB, but hes the full fledged Scarecrow at this point. Theres no reason for him to have his mask off.

 

[CaptainClown]

Well still the whole point of getting Cillian Murphy is to see cillian Murphy. If they just show him with his mask that would be kind of silly. Many actors could do what Cillian did but what really sold his Scarecrow was Cillians facial expressions, especially when he is scared out of his mind when confronting Batman.

 

[bkey]

I did love his expressions in BB, especially in the scene your talking about. I guess we won't know until the movie comes out, and I would certainly not be disappointed if he's maskless at some point. I just don't think its necessary.

 

[CaptainClown]

I think mentally he will be all scarecrow but at times he will take it off.

 

[bkey]

I think mentally he will be all scarecrow but at times he will take it off.

I agree 100% with that. I guess when Batman captures Scarecrow, he could possibly rip his mask off, so we can see him scared *****less.

 

[CaptainClown]

I would actually want Batman to do that to Crane and have Crane with his freaked out look on his face and Batman just says Boo

 

[The Battousai]

I agree 100% with that. I guess when Batman captures Scarecrow, he could possibly rip his mask off, so we can see him scared *****less.

I'd expect his reaction to be the opposite - it would freak out Batman that he's not frightened this time due to his descent into psychosis from the overdose of fear toxin.

IMO, of course

 

[Argyle of Sock]

also it would be kind of pointless to bring back cillian murphy if you aren't going to show his face.. You could get some lousy intern to do the role and just say it was cillian

If you don't see an actor's face there's no point. Surely you jest. What about Hugo Weaving in V for Vendetta? David Prowse in Star Wars (actually, many actors in Star Wars come to think of it)? There's more to acting than looking pretty.

 

[CaptainClown]

If you don't see an actor's face there's no point. Surely you jest. What about Hugo Weaving in V for Vendetta? David Prowse in Star Wars (actually, many actors in Star Wars come to think of it)? There's more to acting than looking pretty.

That is very true, but how many of the general audience is going to realize they brought back cillian murphy when his voice is not distinct enough and his actions are subtle. As I said before you could get anyone to do the scarecrow role if you weren't planning on showing his face.

Lets use SM as an example and a mock sm2, lets say in SM green goblin doesn't die. You want to have him back in SM2 but William Dafoe doesn't want to do it, you could hire a stunt man to put on the whole costume and go through the motions and there you have the character.
David Prowse hardly did anything as vader practically nobody besides a group of nerds knows who he is.
Hell look at Boba Fett, you could have switched him in Empire strikes back and Return of the Jedi and nobody would have known. Audiences like to have insurance that it is indeed the same guy.

Characters like V rely on their mask and resort to great exaggerated movements to display emotions. His whole character was created like that. Scarecrow wasn't, if scarecrow all of a sudden did these weird array of emotions it wouldn't make much sense.

 

[The Battousai]

That is very true, but how many of the general audience is going to realize they brought back cillian murphy when his voice is not distinct enough and his actions are subtle. As I said before you could get anyone to do the scarecrow role if you weren't planning on showing his face.

Lets use SM as an example and a mock sm2, lets say in SM green goblin doesn't die. You want to have him back in SM2 but William Dafoe doesn't want to do it, you could hire a stunt man to put on the whole costume and go through the motions and there you have the character.
David Prowse hardly did anything as vader practically nobody besides a group of nerds knows who he is.
Hell look at Boba Fett, you could have switched him in Empire strikes back and Return of the Jedi and nobody would have known. Audiences like to have insurance that it is indeed the same guy.

Characters like V rely on their mask and resort to great exaggerated movements to display emotions. His whole character was created like that. Scarecrow wasn't, if scarecrow all of a sudden did these weird array of emotions it wouldn't make much sense.

You never hear Prowse's voice, so I don't get why he's even included in this

Besides, he did the part again because he must have enjoyed doing the first one; and he was available to do TDK.

It doesn't really matter if it was necessary if it's already said and done, does it?

 

[Darkness Falls]

in the bb game batman confronts scarcrow in the bridge contro room

batman approaches him Scarecrow starts to see the demon bat then snaps out of it saying something like "i'm not arfraid of you, you're not real"

something like that would work well in tdk imo

 

[CaptainClown]

You never hear Prowse's voice, so I don't get why he's even included in this

Besides, he did the part again because he must have enjoyed doing the first one; and he was available to do TDK.

It doesn't really matter if it was necessary if it's already said and done, does it?

Ya I didn't get prowse, they could have replaced him and I wouldn't have said
OMG thats not vader!

Moving on, it really isn't about whether or not he wanted to do the role. I am glad he decided on yes it is about taking off a mask for the audience to identify with him.

 

[Mr. Socko]

To date, V is the highlight of Hugo Weaving's career. A brilliantly fantastic performance concealed under a mask the entire film. And boy does he look just like Alex Ross's Joker...

just throwing that out there

 

[CaptainClown]

Well if they ever make a Justice movie then they should call up Hugo. I bet he could do it.

 

[bkey]

If you don't see an actor's face there's no point. Surely you jest. What about Hugo Weaving in V for Vendetta? David Prowse in Star Wars (actually, many actors in Star Wars come to think of it)? There's more to acting than looking pretty.

They could have just used an extra to play Scarecrow, and never remove his mask, but whats the point. Even if he doesn't take his mask off, which we don't know if he does or doesn't at this point, I think they decided to the best of their judgement that they should have Cillian reprise his role. I personally think that Cillian's portrayal of Scarecrow went beyond his facial expressions, and into his actions. Plus, I don't think that Murphy demands that much money compared to some of the other actors in the film, so it wouldn't be too burdonsome to hire him to keep the continuity.

 

[CaptainClown]

Well it was his expressions that I felt sold his character. His actions were kind of generic but the subtle things that he did with his face were priceless. Also the mask seems more like what makes him brave without it he is a coward.

 

[Marx]

Cillian's manuerisms and expressions sold the character. Regardless of whether or not he takes the mask off (which I think will happen once or twice,) Cillian IS the scarecrow. He's brilliant. I thought that line of "The Batman" that he delivered in Arkham was chilling.

 

[Nightmare]

Cillian's manuerisms and expressions sold the character. Regardless of whether or not he takes the mask off (which I think will happen once or twice,) Cillian IS the scarecrow. He's brilliant. I thought that line of "The Batman" that he delivered in Arkham was chilling.

"the batman" line was brilliant.

 

[Armored Avenger]

I want the Scarecrow's performance in the Dark Knight to be different from Batman Begins - at the end of Begins Crane had fully embraced his Scarecrow personality and had been exposed to his Toxin without receiving a cure, so therefore should be much more chilling and villainous in the Dark Knight.

 

[Marx]

I want the Scarecrow's performance in the Dark Knight to be different from Batman Begins - at the end of Begins Crane had fully embraced his Scarecrow personality and had been exposed to his Toxin without receiving a cure, so therefore should be much more chilling and villainous in the Dark Knight.

Another reason why I am so excited to TDK. I just wonder if we will see the full-on Scarecrow?

 

[Figs]

Another reason why I am so excited to TDK. I just wonder if we will see the full-on Scarecrow?

Same here. I hope the Nolans wrote him to be a bit more like the comics IE: loony.

For some reason I have a feeling he isn't going to be much different than he was in BB.

 

[The Joker_1000]

He'll probably only be seen for a few minutes but I would like to see the Scarecrow will a completely new outfit & mask, something like we saw in "The New Batman Adventures".

 

[Batmans Spirit]

Awesome, i have this!
Scarecrow rocks, can't wait to see him in TDK!