Scream 4!!!!!

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JustABill said:
It's in old video interviews with Carpenter that I saw this. He talked about a couple different ideas he had for Halloween 4. One where Michael was a sexual deviant perving on young girls, and another where Michael Myers had truly died in the fire and had become something of a Headless Horseman style ghost for Haddonfield.

I don't know if these would be on Youtube or not.
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If Halloween 4 didn't happen, that would actually have been awesome, IMO. Halloween 4 (1988) was still great though.
 
God, it sucked. I give them credit for making at least sensible characters, but the sequels always suffered from the lack of Carpentor's direction. The music isn't as good without his direction and style, same as Michael. Why didn't Castle come back for the second one? The mask was horrible in the sequels as well. Progressively worse actually. Then the whole supernatural thing... God, they just ruined the mystery of Michael. He was pure evil. That is the only explanation.
 
Doctor Jones said:
God, it sucked. I give them credit for making at least sensible characters, but the sequels always suffered from the lack of Carpentor's direction. The music isn't as good without his direction and style, same as Michael. Why didn't Castle come back for the second one? The mask was horrible in the sequels as well. Progressively worse actually. Then the whole supernatural thing... God, they just ruined the mystery of Michael. He was pure evil. That is the only explanation.
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The mask was the only thing in Resurrection I thought was decent. Not great, but better than the other sequels.
 
HighFivingMF said:
The mask was the only thing in Resurrection I thought was decent. Not great, but better than the other sequels.
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I want to know why they had a good mask (w/ short hair like in the original) in H20 but used the dumb one (w/ an afro and an angry mouth) 90% of the time.
 
Doctor Jones said:
The mask was horrible in the sequels as well. Progressively worse actually.
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I thought for Halloween II, the stunt actor used the same mask Nick Castle did for the first movie. Halloween 4 (which was a pretty decent movie overall), had the WORSE mask ever -- it didn't even look remotely like the first film's. At least the remake went to great lengths to have the original mask replicated.

I'm thankful the Scream franchise doesn't have these mask issues. Ghostface looks consistent from film to film.
 
mclay18 said:
I thought for Halloween II, the stunt actor used the same mask Nick Castle did for the first movie. Halloween 4 (which was a pretty decent movie overall), had the WORSE mask ever -- it didn't even look remotely like the first film's. At least the remake went to great lengths to have the original mask replicated.

I'm thankful the Scream franchise doesn't have these mask issues. Ghostface looks consistent from film to film.
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Halloween 5's mask looked waaaay worse than 4.
 
mclay18 said:
I thought for Halloween II, the stunt actor used the same mask Nick Castle did for the first movie.
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Yes, it just looked different because it decayed a little bit because it was an old mask, first off (Shatner), and the white paint messed up the material for 3 years between shoots.
 
mclay18 said:
I'm thankful the Scream franchise doesn't have these mask issues. Ghostface looks consistent from film to film.
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The only thing that ever bugged me about the original Scream was that there are a few shots where different shaped Ghostface masks are used, namely in the opening scene with Barrymore. In one shot it looks the way it should, in another it's smaller and a different shape, and it goes back and forth a few times.
 
do you have pictures of the different masks from the opening scene?
 
mclay18 said:
I thought for Halloween II, the stunt actor used the same mask Nick Castle did for the first movie. Halloween 4 (which was a pretty decent movie overall), had the WORSE mask ever -- it didn't even look remotely like the first film's. At least the remake went to great lengths to have the original mask replicated.

I'm thankful the Scream franchise doesn't have these mask issues. Ghostface looks consistent from film to film.
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You sure? It looked a bit different. In terms of similarity, it did look like the first one the most.

I don't get how people could like the fourth film. First off the whole contrived daughter thing... :dry:
 
Doctor Jones said:
You sure? It looked a bit different. In terms of similarity, it did look like the first one the most.

I don't get how people could like the fourth film. First off the whole contrived daughter thing... :dry:
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Fourth film?

Likeable main characters? Check. Good scene setups and scares? Check. Good plot? Check. The whole thing about Jamie being contrived is ridiculous. Laurie was 17 in Halloween/Halloween 2. She disappeared/died between Halloween 3 and 4. Jamie was said to 8 years old. By the time of the film had Laurie been alive she'd have been 27/28. Plenty of time for her to have a child.

I actually think Halloween 4 is an all together better movie than H20. The only part of H20 worth watching to me is the last battle with Laurie and Michael. Because Laurie's the only character in the movie I care about.
 
Just watched the trailer. I'm hoping this is gonna be good. I wasn't that impressed with the trailer.
 
Tex said:
do you have pictures of the different masks from the opening scene?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulykPn5ZUVs

Skip to about 1:54 as Ghostface turns around, and he is sporting the more famous version of the mask. From that moment on (and especially as he chases Casey in slo-mo), the mask is different and has a pretty funky shape. Then as Ghostface chokes her out at 2:36, the mask is the classic version again.
 
There was a new Halloween documentary recently which I have yet to see.
 
theShape said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulykPn5ZUVs

Skip to about 1:54 as Ghostface turns around, and he is sporting the more famous version of the mask. From that moment on (and especially as he chases Casey in slo-mo), the mask is different and has a pretty funky shape. Then as Ghostface chokes her out at 2:36, the mask is the classic version again.
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Thanks theShape. I hadn't noticed that before.
 
I hope it is not a complete gorefest. The original three were smart entertainment that kept the gore down to a minimum. I mean obviously they are coming back to the well because of the new style of horror movies that have popped up in the last ten years and some type of gore that sends up the Saws and Hostels of the world will be necessary.

I just don't want to see Ghostface become Jigsaw. They need to keep that cheeky irreverent tone from the first two movies.
 
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