Scream 4!!!!!

[Ponyboy]

Scream 2 is an excellent horror movie. It doesn't get much better than having Laurie Metcalf as the killer!

She was an interesting character. Debbie Salt right? I believe I saw Scream 2 at the theatre... All I can remember was there was a staggering amount of hot girls there. Mostly for Jerry O'Connell.

 

[Punisher Rising]

I can never understand why people hate on 2. Honestly. I think if 1 was rated a 10, 2 would only be a 9.5.

3? Yeah. I can understand hate on that. It was "meh". Not BAD by any sort, but comparable to the other 2 it's meh.

I just hate how 2-3 get lumped together when it should really be 1-2 and 3 stands alone in the hate column.

I've just never been big on Scream 2 or 3. I actually think of the first three, 2 might be the one I like the least. I don't know why but for some reason I just can't get into it and find it rather dull, and it doesn't even feel like a proper Horror film to me and for some reason feels more like a Scream imitator than a sequel. It's just a very forgettable and disappointing movie IMO, and the same goes for 3. Neither one lives up to the original for me, which still holds up as a fun and smart but also suspenseful and tense Horror movie that never gets old.

 

[antsman41]

What's everyone's favorite chase/attack scenes? For me,

1. Gale & Dewey in the Film Department of Windsor University (S2)
2. Sid at Stu's house, everything after Billy gets stabbed (S1)
3. Sid on the set of her house/Woodsboro... (S3)

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Gale's chase scene in Scream 2.
The finale of Scream one after Billy gets stabbed.
Drew Barrymore's opening scene of course.

Honorary non-Scream mention that I actually feel is a better chase scene than all those: Sarah Michelle Gellar's Chase/Death Scene in I Know What You Did Last Summer.

 

[The Dark Defender]

I can never understand why people hate on 2. Honestly. I think if 1 was rated a 10, 2 would only be a 9.5.

3? Yeah. I can understand hate on that. It was "meh". Not BAD by any sort, but comparable to the other 2 it's meh.

I just hate how 2-3 get lumped together when it should really be 1-2 and 3 stands alone in the hate column.

In my experience, that's generally how it is.

 

[Spideyfan93]

Only thing I hated about Scream 2 was how Kennedy's character died. His character, forgot his name, was so extremely likable. Did he really have to go the way he did...?

The scene in the first where he explains the whole horror film list is still amazing. I'LL BE RIGHT BAAAAAACK!

 

[antsman41]

Only thing I hated about Scream 2 was how Kennedy's character died. His character, forgot his name, was so extremely likable. Did he really have to go the way he did...?

The scene in the first where he explains the whole horror film list is still amazing. I'LL BE RIGHT BAAAAAACK!

My favorite of Randy's is; "Jamie, he's behind yoooouuuuu..." while ghostface is behind him.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Scream 2 is an excellent horror movie. It doesn't get much better than having Laurie Metcalf as the killer!

Yeah, lol. Sefenitely one of my faovrite horor sequels to come out of the 90's along with Halloween:H20 and Wes Craven's New Nightmare.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I don't get the criticism for the seemingly over the top performances of the killers. Who the hell are we to know what killers act like? Are there experts out there on how psychotics act?

And it bums me out Randy got killed, but they all couldn't get away scott free again. Makes me sad watchig him surviving the first film to only him getting killed in the next one.

Would have been curious to see if he would have ever been with Sydney.

 

[Punisher Rising]

What's everyone's favorite chase/attack scenes?

Easily Sidney being chased around Stu's home in Scream 1, but I also like Sidney being chased in her house in Scream 1 as well.

 

[The Joker]

Randy getting killed was great because it showed literally no one was safe. Nobody expected the lovable movie nerd who managed to survive the first movie to bite the dust.

By the end of Scream 2, Sid literally has nobody left. Her boyfriend and all her friends (save Dewey) are dead. It's why I love that final shot of Sid just walking away on her own through the college campus.

 

[Punisher Rising]

I thought killing off Randy was pretty pointless. Another reason I don't care for Scream 2. It killed off one of the most likeable and cool characters as a cheap ploy to amp the suspense when it was suspenseful to begin with.

 

[The Joker]

Tatum was cool and likable, and she died, too. That's one of the things that makes the Scream movies a cut above most generic slashers. They don't just kill off brainless useless characters you don't give a toss about. They have the balls to kill off cool characters you like, and shock you. Tatum, Randy, Cotton etc. All examples of great characters who got it.

To follow on from the chase scenes question, which scenes did you guys find the most intense? Mine are:

- Casey Becker's death
- Sid's first phone call from the killer in her house
- Cici's death
- Gale's chase in the Film school
- Sid and Hallie trapped in the Cop car with Ghostface

 

[Punisher Rising]

Definitely the opening of the original Scream. I also found Sidney's first phone call from Ghostface and pretty much the whole last third to be intense, and the car scene in Scream 2 was pretty tense, too.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Tatum was cool and likable, and she died, too. That's one of the things that makes the Scream movies a cut above most generic slashers. They don't just kill off brainless useless characters you don't give a toss about. They have the balls to kill off cool characters you like, and shock you. Tatum, Randy, Cotton etc. All examples of great characters who got it.

To follow on from the chase scenes question, which scenes did you guys find the most intense? Mine are:

- Casey Becker's death
- Sid's first phone call from the killer in her house
- Cici's death
- Gale's chase in the Film school
- Sid and Hallie trapped in the Cop car with Ghostface

This is something that ALL horror film slashers should be doing. When your characters are likeable it makes the movie that much more suspenseful and shocking.

Tatum, Hallie, Derek, hell, I even liked Jennifer Jolie if some others didn't. The standard in horror should be to have characters with depth and personality that you actually give two ****s about like in the Scream series and not the polar opposite where they are just dumb stupid vapid teenagers like in the Friday the 13th series.

 

[Punisher Rising]

A Horror movie can still be suspenseful and intense without having to resort to shock tactics or gratituous deaths.

 

[Ponyboy]

and the car scene in Scream 2 was pretty tense, too.

I remember almost everyone in the theatre squealing during that.

 

[Punisher Rising]

I remember almost everyone in the theatre squealing during that.

There is one moment during that entire sequence though that annoys me to no end. It's when Sidney goes to check Ghostface after she and Hallie get out of the car, to see who it is. While I can understand they'd finally uncover the identity and can easily report him to the police to get an APB on him, it was still incredibly stupid of her to do that; in that situation, I'd just get away from him and not look back, hands down. Sidney is my favorite character in the series and to see her make such a stupid mistake just grinds my gears so much. No way would the intelligent and resourceful Sidney of the first Scream made such a stupid and fatal mistake.

 

[The Joker]

This is something that ALL horror film slashers should be doing. When your characters are likeable it makes the movie that much more suspenseful and shocking.

Tatum, Hallie, Derek, hell, I even liked Jennifer Jolie if some others didn't. The standard in horror should be to have characters with depth and personality that you actually give two ****s about like in the Scream series and not the polar opposite where they are just dumb stupid vapid teenagers like in the Friday the 13th series.

This

A Horror movie can still be suspenseful and intense without having to resort to shock tactics or gratituous deaths.

How many other slasher movies were suspenseful and intense for you like Scream?

There's only one slasher movie that is above Scream 1 and 2 for me, and that's John Carpenter's Halloween. He made me care about the trio of girls Michael targets in that.

There is one moment during that entire sequence though that annoys me to no end. It's when Sidney goes to check Ghostface after she and Hallie get out of the car, to see who it is. While I can understand they'd finally uncover the identity and can easily report him to the police to get an APB on him, it was still incredibly stupid of her to do that; in that situation, I'd just get away from him and not look back, hands down. Sidney is my favorite character in the series and to see her make such a stupid mistake just grinds my gears so much. No way would the intelligent and resourceful Sidney of the first Scream made such a stupid and fatal mistake.

Sid: "I want to know who it is"
Hallie: "Oh no, Sid, come on. Lets just run"
Sid: "Hallie, I'm sick of running. If we know who it is then it's over"
Hallie: "We can just get the Police"
Sid: "Yeah, and when we come back he'll be gone. It'll just take a minute"

I can totally understand and support Sid doing that. After all the crap she'd been through, living in fear etc, I'd want to do the exact same thing and take advantage of having Ghostface unconscious. Your intelligent and resourceful Sidney from Scream 1 went to a house party in the back ass of nowhere, after being attacked and threatened over the phone, and knowing the killer was still out there after her.

 

[Punisher Rising]

How many other slasher movies were suspenseful and intense for you like Scream?

There's only one slasher movie that is above Scream 1 and 2 for me, and that's John Carpenter's Halloween. He made me care about the trio of girls Michael targets in that.

Some of the victims in other Horror series like Friday The 13th, A Nightmare On Elm Street, Saw, etc. I care about and they didn't die, and yet there was still a lot of suspense because of the danger of their situation at hand, ie. the original Saw when

Spoiler

Dr. Gordon finally has to saw his foot off because he ran out of time to think of other ways to kill Adam, otherwise his wife and daughter are about to die as a result of his failure to comply with the rules of his game.

A Horror movie doesn't need pointless gore and death scenes to be suspenseful. Characters the audience cares about being in a dangerous situation and keeping the overall mood and tone ominous and threatening is all it takes.

Sid: "I want to know who it is"
Hallie: "Oh no, Sid, come on. Lets just run"
Sid: "Hallie, I'm sick of running. If we know who it is then it's over"
Hallie: "We can just get the Police"
Sid: "Yeah, and when we come back he'll be gone. It'll just take a minute"

I can totally understand and support Sid doing that. After all the crap she'd been through, living in fear etc, I'd want to do the exact same thing and take advantage of having Ghostface unconscious. Your intelligent and resourceful Sidney from Scream 1 went to a house party in the back ass of nowhere, knowing there was a killer out there after her.

It's still incredibly stupid to do, IMO. In her situation I couldn't have cared less who was behind the mask, I'd just want to get out of there. The cops could handle him once he inevitably showed up again. Not only was it a dumb mistake, it was one that got Hallie killed. In regards to Sidney heading back to the house in the first Scream, where else could she go? She was far away from anywhere else. She could've tried calling the police to get there before Ghostface caught up to her again.

 

[The Joker]

Some of the victims in other Horror series like Friday The 13th, A Nightmare On Elm Street, Saw, etc. I care about and they didn't die and yet there was still a lot of suspense because of the danger of their situation at hand, ie. the original Saw when

Spoiler

Dr. Gordon finally has to saw his foot off because he ran out of time to think of other ways to kill Adam, otherwise his wife and daughter are about to die as a result of his failure to comply with the rules of his game.

You really cared about the characters in the NOES and F13 movies? You say the ones that didn't die, meaning the leading ladies?

Saw, I wouldn't call a slasher movie. Not in the Scream/Halloween/F13/NOES sense.

A Horror movie doesn't need pointless gore and death scenes to be suspenseful.

Yet that's what the F13 and NOES movies are predominately all about, yet you just said above you found them suspenseful.

It's still incredibly stupid to do, IMO. In her situation I couldn't have cared less who was behind the mask, I'd just want to get out of there. The cops could handle him once he inevitably showed up again.

Yes, because the Cops have a stellar record of catching Ghostface, don't they. I mean he just slaughtered the two who were supposed to be protecting her 5 minutes before.

In regards to Sidney heading back to the house in the first Scream, where else could she go?

Stayed in the Police Station until they found her father. Not go to a house party in the middle of nowhere THE NEXT DAY after being attacked and threatened by a killer (who was still on the loose), with just Dewey as her protection.

But she chose to put herself out in the open in danger like that. That's neither intelligent or resourceful, yet you criticize her for wanting to unmask the unconscious Ghostface. Does that mean it's her fault that Tatum died because she went to the party with Sid? Same as how Hallie chose to stay and wait while Sid went to unmask Ghostface?

She could've tried calling the police to get there before Ghostface caught up to her again.

I don't understand what you mean.

 

[antsman41]

Yeah, Scream series is really the best of all horror franchises because, while I love the characters (victims) you also love the killer (ghostface) and it is that in-between that is so hard. It is so cool watching him in action but you also want people to live instead of all the other films except the original Halloween and Friday The 13th.

All of the remakes now and the sequels in the 80's and 90's had me rooting for the killer to kill everyone because they usually are so annoying and bland.

Does anyone else think of TDK's Joker when Billy is telling Sid that killers are way more interesting when you don't know why they kill or where they came from?

Also, all of the scenes of Sid owning ghostface by quotes of fighting in 2 or 3 are the best parts of the series...

 

[Punisher Rising]

You really cared about the characters in the NOES and F13 movies? You say the ones that didn't die, meaning the leading ladies?

Saw, I wouldn't call a slasher movie. Not in the Scream/Halloween/F13/NOES sense.

Yes, the survivors. A lot of the supporting victims are usually annoying and the kind of characters you want to see die. Saw I agree isn't really a Slasher movie per say but it still works much like a traditional one and can invest you in the characters and want to see them succeed and not die.

Yet that's what the F13 and NOES movies are predominately all about, yet you just said above you found them suspenseful.

Yes but some of them still succeed at being suspenseful because of things like the mood, tone, intensity, etc. it takes more than just gore to make an unsettling Horror film. It has to be evened out with actual suspense. When all you're doing is showing disgusting gore you're just creating disgust, not terror. There's got to be an even balance.

Yes, because the Cops have a stellar record of catching Ghostface, don't they. I mean he just slaughtered the two who were supposed to be protecting her 5 minutes before.

Those were merely two cops, I doubt he'd have much luck taking on a whole force of them or even a SWAT team if they were sent after him. He got lucky when he killed those cops. I doubt he'd have any luck at all trying to get either Sidney or Hallie if they went to a police station and stayed there if they'd gone there after leaving the car.

Stayed in the Police Station until they found her father. Not go to a house party in the middle of nowhere THE NEXT DAY after being attacked and threatened by a killer (who was still on the loose), with just Dewey as her protection.

But she chose to put herself out in the open in danger like that. That's neither intelligent or resourceful, yet you criticize her for wanting to unmask the unconscious Ghostface. Does that mean it's her fault that Tatum died because she went to the party with Sid? Same as how Hallie chose to stay and wait while Sid went to unmask Ghostface?

I thought you meant why she went back in when Ghostface chased her at the house party, my bad. Sidney was still young and taking in the whole experience of being stalked during the first movie. She had no idea Ghostface would follow her to the party and felt assured knowing Dewey was there and others were as well, if Ghostface wanted her and her only. She became smart with not only running from Ghostface later on and going for help but also getting the gun and threatening to shoot both Randy and Stu seeing as she didn't know if either was Ghostface, and when she learned the truth behind Billy and Stu, she took them both offguard and got the upper hand with calling the cops, attacking Billy from the closet, shooting Billy in the head, etc. she became smarter as the movie went along.

I don't understand what you mean.

See above reply, misunderstood the one I replied to before.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

I have my problems with Scream 3 but I love this:

Sidney: God! Why don't you stop your whining and get on with it. I've heard all this **** before.
Roman: Stop.
Sidney: Do you know why you kill people Roman? Do you?
Roman: I don't want to hear it.
Sidney: Because you choose to. There is no one else to blame.
Roman: Damn it! ****ing damn it!
Sidney: Why don't you take some ****ing responsibility?
Roman: **** you.
Sidney: **** you.

 

[The Joker]

I have my problems with Scream 3 but I love this:

Sidney: God! Why don't you stop your whining and get on with it. I've heard all this **** before.
Roman: Stop.
Sidney: Do you know why you kill people Roman? Do you?
Roman: I don't want to hear it.
Sidney: Because you choose to. There is no one else to blame.
Roman: Damn it! ****ing damn it!
Sidney: Why don't you take some ****ing responsibility?
Roman: **** you.
Sidney: **** you.

LOL, that was classic.