The Caped Knight
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I liked it. The relationship between bulked up Peggy and skinny Steve was actually quite endearing and it made me sad how it ended. It felt a bit rushed at times but that's to be expected when someone tries to retell a two hour movie in just 30 minutes.
BTW, does anyone know if the creature at the end is something from the comics or just some generic monster?
I liked it. The relationship between bulked up Peggy and skinny Steve was actually quite endearing and it made me sad how it ended. It felt a bit rushed at times but that's to be expected when someone tries to retell a two hour movie in just 30 minutes.
BTW, does anyone know if the creature at the end is something from the comics or just some generic monster?
I thought Captain Carter was pretty solid for what was essentially a condensed, role-swapped version of The First Avenger. If anything it made me realize that I actually miss Dominic Cooper's young Howard Stark. My only real complaint was that Chester Phillips was nowhere to be found which is strange considering how much of a key player he was in those events. It would have been a good way to bring the character back, even for a brief appearance.
I also thought that the animation was fine now that we've seen a full episode of it.
Sure it was rushed, but in this particular case do we really need a lot of development for characters we already know? Even though it's an alternate universe, Peggy was still Peggy and Steve was still Steve. I felt like the moments we got between the two of them were enough. I can tell it's going to be a case by case basis for this show. Peggy and Steve were pretty similar to their main timeline branch counterparts, but I'm sure Starlord T'Challa won't share as many similarities with his Black Panther counterpart.
My only real complaint was that Chester Phillips was nowhere to be found which is strange considering how much of a key player he was in those events. It would have been a good way to bring the character back, even for a brief appearance.
The critic's want more Captain Carter
I dunno about that...based on the First Avenger film so that is one of the weaker MCU films.
I dunno about that...
But isn't that the very reason why the MCU is so successful? Their whole gameplan is built with the expectation that the audience has seen all previous MCU movies and shows (at least the Disney+ shows) based on how interconnected everything is. There's barely any kind of development for most of the Avengers in Infinity War due to time constraints but we're invested because we had been following their journeys through 18 films prior to that. It's not that different with this episode. We already know who Peggy and Steve are and because the show only has a half hour to convey its story, there isn't really a huge need to explore this in detail, otherwise it just becomes redundant since it's covering the same ground as TFA.Yes, character development is still important regardless if this is a mirror universe. You cannot just ask me to get invested piggy backing off the prior property. These episodes have to stand on their own. If you have to bank on another movie without earning your own quality, that is just bad writing. The people making this show know these are 30 minute episodes. Cramming in a 2hr movie into 30 mins is never a good idea. They gotta do better than that
Oh wow, I totally missed that.I'd have to rewatch it but wasn't that him getting shot by the Hydra agent at the beginning of the episode? That's why Flynn ended up taking over the SSR.
Anyway as far as my own views, I actually thought the episode was pretty great. The animation was a lot more fluid that what I was expecting and by the end I loved it. Pacing wise, yea it's fast no getting around that. But I felt engaged the whole time and honestly did not mind it. I will say that this episode could have definitely benefitted from an extra 5-10 minutes but overall I liked it a lot.
EDIT- I just rewatched the beginning of the episode and yeah that's Chester Phillips. You seem in briefly in 2 other shots but you see him get killed by the Hydra agent.
But isn't that the very reason why the MCU is so successful? Their whole gameplan is built with the expectation that the audience has seen all previous MCU movies and shows (at least the Disney+ shows) based on how interconnected everything is. There's barely any kind of development for most of the Avengers in Infinity War due to time constraints but we're invested because we had been following their journeys through 18 films prior to that. It's not that different with this episode. We already know who Peggy and Steve are and because the show only has a half hour to convey its story, there isn't really a huge need to explore this in detail, otherwise it just becomes redundant since it's covering the same ground as TFA.
I will absolutely agree with you about development when it comes to characters like Evil Doctor Strange and Good Guy Killmonger in future episodes because they are even more of a deviation from who we know in the MCU that there will need to be a good deal of explanation as to why they are who they are.
Oh wow, I totally missed that.
To each their own. Maybe you might have been expecting a little too much for an animated anthology series with a limited amount of time to tell each story. Personally, I don't really see how much more they could have improved upon this particular episode, but this is also probably the most basic storyline we'll see in this show compared to how much more outlandish it's going to get.Infinity War also doesn't rush the plot into 30 minutes. So while a bunch of characters, they get developed in the movie. Many anyway. Cast that large, some being less fleshed out is acceptable. Also the scenes are also largely stronger in IW when they opt to do character work. Here, it is a mostly generic script rushed into a small window. So nothing breathes. You can't just live on good will. Especially when your episode has like....4 core characters and none are explored in very interesting ways because they had to rush everything.
Infinite possibilities dont matter if there is no time for a decent story
To each their own. Maybe you might have been expecting a little too much for an animated anthology series with a limited amount of time to tell each story. Personally, I don't really see how much more they could have improved upon this particular episode, but this is also probably the most basic storyline we'll see in this show compared to how much more outlandish it's going to get.