Jessica Jones Season 1, Episode 8 "AKA WWJD?" (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

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A Reminder That This Thread Is Only To Discuss Episode 8: AKA WWJD?

ANY SPOILERS FOR EPISODES BEYOND THIS ONE MUST BE TAGGED.


Jessica experiences a strange homecoming courtesy of Kilgrave. Hograth's conflict with her estranged wife reaches a tipping point.
 
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I'm a bit confused about Kilgrave's "bodyguard." If he IS in fact there on his own free will, is he an idiot or an a-hole? Because as Jessica said, there's no way he hasn't seen what Kilgrave does and he's still choosing to "do his job" and protect him. I just can't tell how we're supposed to be reading his actions.
 
This is one of the most interesting episodes I've seen in any show.
 
how the heck [BLACKOUT]did the neighbor in the end know he was Simpson?[/BLACKOUT]
 
how the heck [BLACKOUT]did the neighbor in the end know he was Simpson?[/BLACKOUT]

Because Kilgrave would have [BLACKOUT]told her, I assume he had her standing outside waiting for anyone going up to the house. She did ask 'are you Simpson' Could have described him and/or shown a photo as well.[/BLACKOUT]
 
I'm a bit confused about Kilgrave's "bodyguard." If he IS in fact there on his own free will, is he an idiot or an a-hole? Because as Jessica said, there's no way he hasn't seen what Kilgrave does and he's still choosing to "do his job" and protect him. I just can't tell how we're supposed to be reading his actions.

I think it's clear he's not under control because Killgrave is unconscious. I think it's pretty self-explanatory. He works for lots of shady people, so he doesn't have much in the way or moral objection to things.

I enjoyed this one a lot. It explored the origins of both characters. I liked that you could see Jessica's childhood before the accident (and that she was still a teenager with some issues). I have to point out that I own the same Green Day poster. You can see the moment her family died and that she harbored that guilt too. Killgrave's origin (apparently he's Kevin Killgrave, as opposed to the much better Zebediah) is creepy as well.

I love the exploration of Killgrave as a hero. The idea seems intriguing, although it's always a tightrope. I'm glad she ultimately didn't go down that road, although a second episode wouldn't have been bad. The idea of getting Killgrave to confess is straight out of his first Daredevil appearance. But alone it doesn't seem to be enough and I think Jessica agrees. That's why it's good that she took him and the recording. Plus, an awesome moment where maybe she flew.

Five Stars.
 
The scene of Kilgrave's childhood reminded me a lot of the movie "Peeping Tom".
 
EPISODE 8: WWJD?
This was an interesting episode, as it is what I imagine would be the closest we could get to Kilgrave as an anti-hero. The notion of Purple Man using his powers for good is a notion that even the comics haven't explored, and in general I'm a sucker for stories about villains trying their hand at heroism and getting a kick out of it, even if it's for the wrong reasons. Similarly, this is also the most the show has asked us to sympathise with Kilgrave, as we get a glimpse of his horrible past. This past is played off against flashbacks to Jessica's own childhood, and the tragedy that would become her "origin story." And as much as the narrative seems to hinge on Kilgrave here, I'd argue the episode is ultimately sold by Krysten Ritter's performance, as our access point into it is putting ourselves in her shoes and asking, as the title suggests, what we would do in her situation.
 
Might be the best episode so far. Kilgrave trying his hand at being a hero and the scene with Jessica's old neighbor and Kilgrave using his powers to make her tell the truth was pretty sweet. I think they did a great job of casting young Jessica, she looks a lot like Krysten Ritter.

It looks like she was always Jessica Jones too, unlike in the comics where she was Jessica Cambell.
 
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Many super villains have the capacity for good and could become heroes. Kilgrave is clearly not one of them. He seems about as cut out for being a hero as Red Skull or Bullseye.

I did like Kilgrave's "Psycho Nightmare Barbie's dream house".
 
My God... What an absolutely fantastically written show this was. Ritter and Tenant were at their best and the way the creators have ratcheted the tension these past two episodes is so absolutely cracker jack.

[BLACKOUT]Jessica, as has been illustrated before, was a big bag of emotional scar tissue BEFORE Kilgrave met her, and the background and insights this episode fleshed that out more. She does have survivor's guilt and that's shaped her personality.

Killgrave it seems deserving of some sympathy but as Jess pointed out... He's a user, a sociopath and a rapist... FOR STARTERS. The character is like a free floating miasma of dread and in a show like this that is magnetic to watch. You do wonder how serious Jess is in terms of trying to harness Purple Man for good, but I suppose that will play out next episode. As for that ending... Poor Mrs. Deluca.[/BLACKOUT]

I still wonder what purpose in the long run Hogarth's drama plays into all this in why Simpson and Trish are in the mix outside of the tendencies of these super hero shows to have big sprawling casts these days. Still... What a fantastic episode. It will be a shame if Ritter and Tenant don't get multiple nominations for their performances on the show.
 
EPISODE 8: WWJD?
This was an interesting episode, as it is what I imagine would be the closest we could get to Kilgrave as an anti-hero. The notion of Purple Man using his powers for good is a notion that even the comics haven't explored, and in general I'm a sucker for stories about villains trying their hand at heroism and getting a kick out of it, even if it's for the wrong reasons. Similarly, this is also the most the show has asked us to sympathise with Kilgrave, as we get a glimpse of his horrible past. This past is played off against flashbacks to Jessica's own childhood, and the tragedy that would become her "origin story." And as much as the narrative seems to hinge on Kilgrave here, I'd argue the episode is ultimately sold by Krysten Ritter's performance, as our access point into it is putting ourselves in her shoes and asking, as the title suggests, what we would do in her situation.


Thank you. This is why I think this episode really showcased Ritter's talent and is deserving of some recognition.
 
Many super villains have the capacity for good and could become heroes. Kilgrave is clearly not one of them. He seems about as cut out for being a hero as Red Skull or Bullseye.

I did like Kilgrave's "Psycho Nightmare Barbie's dream house".

Its kind of funny and horrible watching him go through the motions, though. He clearly only has a vague intellectual idea of what it means to not be a complete *******, and even then, its entirely centered on "what I get out of it".

Minimal empathy and no sense of consequences, its a bad combination.
 
Such an explosive ending.

I liked that they showed the other side of what could be done with Kilgrave's powers.
 
Killgrave's origin (apparently he's Kevin Killgrave, as opposed to the much better Zebediah) is creepy as well.

Apparently he's Kevin Thompson so I assume he chose Kilgrave as a new name and if he did then maybe he chose Zebediah as a new first name as well and we just never hear them use it.
 
I laughed so hard when Jessica said [BLACKOUT]Obi-Wan Kenobi?" And Kilgrave "But cooler." :D[/BLACKOUT]
 
Apparently he's Kevin Thompson so I assume he chose Kilgrave as a new name and if he did then maybe he chose Zebediah as a new first name as well and we just never hear them use it.

Yeah, I had out of date information as of this episode.
 
You know, I was perfectly fine with Kilgrave not having purple skin in the MCU, but changing his name from Zebadiah to Kevin kinda rubbed me the wrong way.

Great episode though. For me the ending to this one was the biggest "Holy ****!!!" moment since the end of episode 1.
 
Eh, Zebediah would have everyone going "What?" Its just such a bizarre name that is 100% incompatible with a British origin. The only way you could make it worse is keeping the idea that he's Croatian.
 
EPISODE 8: WWJD?
This was an interesting episode, as it is what I imagine would be the closest we could get to Kilgrave as an anti-hero. The notion of Purple Man using his powers for good is a notion that even the comics haven't explored, and in general I'm a sucker for stories about villains trying their hand at heroism and getting a kick out of it, even if it's for the wrong reasons. Similarly, this is also the most the show has asked us to sympathise with Kilgrave, as we get a glimpse of his horrible past. This past is played off against flashbacks to Jessica's own childhood, and the tragedy that would become her "origin story." And as much as the narrative seems to hinge on Kilgrave here, I'd argue the episode is ultimately sold by Krysten Ritter's performance, as our access point into it is putting ourselves in her shoes and asking, as the title suggests, what we would do in her situation.

Yeah, it's fascinating as until now we've had a totally evil villain and it's worked really well. We're always told black and white villains aren't as good.
 

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