Shang-Chi part of Phase 3?

[Endeavor]

I know this is a very iffy source but, when looking up Kevin Feige in IMDB, the second annouced title, right under Dr Strange is: The Hands of Shang-Chi.
Thoughts?

 

[DarkSovereignty]

...who?

 

[Endeavor]

This guy

 

[Mr. Dent]

Friend of Iron Fist.

If Shang Chi were going to in a movie, it would be rolled into an Iron Fist movie imo.

 

[psylockolussus]

A movie for Shang Chi wouldn't do well at the box-office!

 

[cherokeesam]

Why on earth would a kung-fu movie not do well at the box office?
Okay, we're not talking blockbuster material, clearly, but kung fu flicks are a staple of action movies and virtually every action star since the 1960s has done at least a stint or three in them.

Still, if Marvel was even remotely serious about Shang-Chi (given IMDB's poor credibility, I strongly doubt this), I'd think it'd be a lot more wise to roll up all the '70s B-movie action flick superhero types into a proper Heroes for Hire movie or TV show, where they belong: Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Shang-Chi, Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, White Tiger.

 

[Ant-manic]

Why on earth would a kung-fu movie not do well at the box office?
Okay, we're not talking blockbuster material, clearly, but kung fu flicks are a staple of action movies and virtually every action star since the 1960s has done at least a stint or three in them.

Still, if Marvel was even remotely serious about Shang-Chi (given IMDB's poor credibility, I strongly doubt this), I'd think it'd be a lot more wise to roll up all the '70s B-movie action flick superhero types into a proper Heroes for Hire movie or TV show, where they belong: Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Shang-Chi, Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, White Tiger.

i disagree. i think they should devote a phase to movies like this (Punisher, Daredevil, Shang Chi, Iron Fist, and Luke). but i don't think a Heroes for Hire movie (like you're describing) would work. they could get away with a crossover of Iron Fist and Luke Cage; after presenting both solo properties. but i think it'd be wrongheaded to try to shoehorn Shang into the Heroes for Hire mold. he's not a hired hero. he's a secret agent. he has a cast of his own and an agenda. Misty could appear first in Cage's movie (and maybe even as a linking character in Daredevil and/or Punisher as part of the NYPD). Colleen could appear in Iron Fist; as the daughter of a professor researching Kunlun. and then those two could meet and team up in the Iron Fist/Cage crossover. but that's just how i would do it.

 

[psylockolussus]

Why on earth would a kung-fu movie not do well at the box office?

The only kung-fu flicks that did well in the past few years are Kung Fu Panda and the Kung-Fu Kid which is a remake.

 

[blalex620]

i disagree. i think they should devote a phase to movies like this (Punisher, Daredevil, Shang Chi, Iron Fist, and Luke). but i don't think a Heroes for Hire movie (like you're describing) would work. they could get away with a crossover of Iron Fist and Luke Cage; after presenting both solo properties. but i think it'd be wrongheaded to try to shoehorn Shang into the Heroes for Hire mold. he's not a hired hero. he's a secret agent. he has a cast of his own and an agenda. Misty could appear first in Cage's movie (and maybe even as a linking character in Daredevil and/or Punisher as part of the NYPD). Colleen could appear in Iron Fist; as the daughter of a professor researching Kunlun. and then those two could meet and team up in the Iron Fist/Cage crossover. but that's just how i would do it.

We won't be seeing any of the more violent hardcore heroes til at least 2020 if even then. And I think Marvel would introduce Luke Cage and Iron Fist together as Heroes for Hire if they did a movie first. The only way I could see them introduced separately is if they introduced them on the S.H.I.E.L.D. show.

 

[cherokeesam]

i disagree. i think they should devote a phase to movies like this (Punisher, Daredevil, Shang Chi, Iron Fist, and Luke). but i don't think a Heroes for Hire movie (like you're describing) would work. they could get away with a crossover of Iron Fist and Luke Cage; after presenting both solo properties. but i think it'd be wrongheaded to try to shoehorn Shang into the Heroes for Hire mold. he's not a hired hero. he's a secret agent. he has a cast of his own and an agenda. Misty could appear first in Cage's movie (and maybe even as a linking character in Daredevil and/or Punisher as part of the NYPD). Colleen could appear in Iron Fist; as the daughter of a professor researching Kunlun. and then those two could meet and team up in the Iron Fist/Cage crossover. but that's just how i would do it.

Ideally, my dream scenario would be for Marvel to create a TV-MA cable series for Heroes for Hire with Cage and Rand as the core characters, and a rotating ensemble of other "Marvel Knights," including Daredevil, Moon Knight, Punisher, Blade and even Ghost Rider with recurring (albeit not truly permanent) roles.

 

[Hypestyle]

why not Shang Chi? As long as he's not played by Johnny Depp.

 

[T"Challa]

Yeah, Marvel can make lower budget movies for street heroes like Shang Chi, Cage, Iron Fist, Daredevil etc. Most of these could be done for 20-30 million.

 

[cherokeesam]

Yeah, Marvel can make lower budget movies for street heroes like Shang Chi, Cage, Iron Fist, Daredevil etc. Most of these could be done for 20-30 million.

That was originally part of Marvel Studios' plan, according to Avi back before the Avengers came out. They planned to release "small" budget (20-30 million) films in addition to the blockbuster range of 150(ish) million budgets. So far, that strategy has never been realized; and it's a damn shame, considering how many great street-level heroes Marvel has on the shelf gathering dust --- Daredevil, Punisher, Ghost Rider, Blade, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Shang-Chi, Moon Knight, Cloak & Dagger, Elektra...

 

[Endeavor]

I'd think it'd be a lot more wise to ... proper Heroes for Hire movie : Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Shang-Chi, Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, White Tiger.

This

 

[Endeavor]

The only kung-fu flicks that did well in the past few years are Kung Fu Panda and the Kung-Fu Kid which is a remake.

2 words: Kill Bill

 

[T"Challa]

That was originally part of Marvel Studios' plan, according to Avi back before the Avengers came out. They planned to release "small" budget (20-30 million) films in addition to the blockbuster range of 150(ish) million budgets. So far, that strategy has never been realized; and it's a damn shame, considering how many great street-level heroes Marvel has on the shelf gathering dust --- Daredevil, Punisher, Ghost Rider, Blade, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Shang-Chi, Moon Knight, Cloak & Dagger, Elektra...

Agreed. The Raid had a budget of 1 million. If you make a Shang Chi movie of that caliber and slap the Marvel logo on it, you could be looking at a very profitable movie.

 

[T"Challa]

Heroes for Hire is practically begging for a TV show. Its the perfect concept and setup for a procedural.

 

[Hypestyle]

not sure why this hasn't had more momentum yet. The Fu Manchu legal hassle can't be the hang-up. Just name his dad something else.

 

[Hypestyle]

now that The Wolverine has succeeded, there is less of an excuse to explore some martial arts action in the MCU, especially in exotic locales.

 

[Endeavor]

I wanted the Ninja clan to be named as The Hand. I guess they saved it for another story... there is a 2 year gap to explore... Probably Yukio and him will head to Madripoor.

 

[Destructus86]

sounds decent. But I still want a Punisher movie under Marvel.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Iron Fist > Shang Chi

 

[metaphysician]

I wanted the Ninja clan to be named as The Hand. I guess they saved it for another story... there is a 2 year gap to explore... Probably Yukio and him will head to Madripoor.

I suspect they couldn't name it the Hand. The Hand rights were almost certainly part of the Daredevil license, and they lost that last year.

 

[metaphysician]

Iron Fist > Shang Chi

I would generally agree. However, I think Shang Chi would be a little easier to adapt, in a "do it quick and cheap" sense. Iron Fist would require a great deal more effort, because there are more ( and more fantastic ) necessary mythos efforts. Plus the tone being really critical to get right.

 

[Hypestyle]

I wonder does the guy who played Han in the Fast & Furious movies know about Shang Chi? Especially after the end of pt. 6, I guess he's open to new franchise possibilities.