Infinity War Sharon Carter - Agent 13 - Emily VanCamp

[Voltron]

I expect she'll be locked up for helping Steve during CW. Because MCU Cap abandons people who do him huge favors apparently.

Expect there to be a big deal about Natasha "helping" Steve and Bucky, though.

They've basically given Sharon's role to BW in the MCU so why not in A:IW as well .

What does that image come from?

I forgot, you can google it.

Why only "possibly"? No one knew that time about Cap 3 becoming Civil War. The screenwriters talked about her being intended to get a big role in Cap 3. They've got SLJ in cameo for IM, TFA and in a small role in IM 2. They've got Scarlett for quite a small role in IM 2 as well. They've got del Toro for the small part of the Collector. I don't see how Sharon is so different, considering their initial intention to give her a female lead in Cap 3.

Heck, they've got Martin Freeman for even smaller role in Civil War!

Whoa, I agree. And Freeman started off in bit/major TV roles just like EVC.

 

[MbJ]

And she played Carter, so she was just a setup for Sharon.

That's definitely how it worked out...

 

[Xeno]

That's definitely how it worked out...

Except for the fact that Hayley Atwell/Peggy Carter became fairly popular with fans and also with the execs at Marvel. Hence she was given a critically well-received TV show, which was overseen by Marvel's co-president, with the Russos and Markus & McFeely contributing to its early production. There certainly hasn't been that kind of push for Sharon and there probably won't be in the future.

 

[scarlet-witch]

Sharon would've been a good fit on Agents of SHIELD if they wanted people to get to know her more. I can't see her having a big part in Infinity War.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

Steve was shown breaking his team out from the Raft. If Sharon were in some kind of prison as well he would have liberated her too. It's out of character for him to do otherwise.

I doubt we get any information of that, either way.

 

[MbJ]

Except for the fact that Hayley Atwell/Peggy Carter became fairly popular with fans and also with the execs at Marvel. Hence she was given a critically well-received TV show, which was overseen by Marvel's co-president, with the Russos and Markus & McFeely contributing to its early production. There certainly hasn't been that kind of push for Sharon and there probably won't be in the future.

That was the joke. I'm sure at some point there was an intention for Peggy to just be a minor footnote and for Sharon to be the really important character everyone would care about, it just didn't happen...at all.

 

[Voltron]

Except for the fact that Hayley Atwell/Peggy Carter became fairly popular with fans and also with the execs at Marvel. Hence she was given a critically well-received TV show, which was overseen by Marvel's co-president, with the Russos and Markus & McFeely contributing to its early production. There certainly hasn't been that kind of push for Sharon and there probably won't be in the future.

Well her popularity was aided when she got around 28 mins of screen time in Cap 1, was Steve's love interest and she was introduced first before Sharon's mere 3 mins in Cap 2. The reality is that many "fans" unfortunately ended up pegging Peggy/Bucky against Sharon.

 

[Minxie]

There's a set video out of Edinburgh which might be Emily VanCamp (or a double). Not sure...

The article writer thought it was Natasha but... the hair is clearly blonde. And she's not dressed in a BW suit - those are dark pants + a jacket. What do y'all think? She could just be a random stunt character.

The other video at the link might be Chris (or a double more likely) because of the costume but I hesitate because the costume looks all dark, no sign of the red, white and blue. I suppose he might have changed his costume since he's not officially Cap at the moment or something... Chris apparently isn't even over there but I did hear he confirmed he starts in April, so maybe they're just doing some stunt work before he flies over.
At any rate if that is supposed to be Steve then it probably makes it more likely the blonde woman is Sharon. Hopefully there's some more photos or video over the next few days.

 

[MbJ]

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The article writer thought it was Natasha but... the hair is clearly blonde. And she's not dressed in a BW suit - those are dark pants + a jacket. What do y'all think? She could just be a random stunt character.

BW might not be wearing a costume any way if she's in hiding and may have taken steps to hide her appearance.

 

[Capsfan]

More likely it's BW in disguise or even Captain Marvel. They were not willing to use Sharon even in the airport battle in CW, so I really doubt they would put her in some serious action scenes in IW, when they have so many other superheroes to focus on.
At least the body shape looks more like ScarJo, not tall and slim Emily.

The article writer claims to have their source on location. So I suppose the source told them it's BW.

 

[MbJ]

People are also discounting the fact that stuntmen and stuntwomen will often wear wigs any way. It could just be the stuntwoman for Scarjo in this movie is a natural blonde.

 

[Voltron]

Yeah the body shape and height is scarjo's hence it's bw in disguise perhaps.

It's fair to say that Sharon will only be mentioned if anything in this movie and I'll just wait for a CA reboot in 20-30 years time where they'll hopefully feature Sharon heavily if I'm still interested at all.

 

[Capsfan]

It's fair to say that Sharon will only be mentioned if anything in this movie and I'll just wait for a CA reboot in 20-30 years time where they'll hopefully feature Sharon heavily if I'm still interested at all.

These are two big movies. She might get the same screentime and role as Maria Hill did in the Avengers, I just doubt they will put her in some significant action scenes.

Also, regarding your previous post, how do you know Peggy's screentime in TFA is 28 minutes? Did you sit through the movie with stop-watch and count all the seconds while she was on screen?

 

[Rote]

There's a set video out of Edinburgh which might be Emily VanCamp (or a double). Not sure...

The article writer thought it was Natasha but... the hair is clearly blonde. And she's not dressed in a BW suit - those are dark pants + a jacket. What do y'all think? She could just be a random stunt character.

The other video at the link might be Chris (or a double more likely) because of the costume but I hesitate because the costume looks all dark, no sign of the red, white and blue. I suppose he might have changed his costume since he's not officially Cap at the moment or something... Chris apparently isn't even over there but I did hear he confirmed he starts in April, so maybe they're just doing some stunt work before he flies over.
At any rate if that is supposed to be Steve then it probably makes it more likely the blonde woman is Sharon. Hopefully there's some more photos or video over the next few days.

OMG, gee, first fanboys and fangirls were sure EVC would land the female lead in Cap 3. Which obviously didn't happen, because she is not a female lead material. Now they still actually hope she gets a major role in the Avengers movies.

 

[Minxie]

OMG, gee, first fanboys and fangirls were sure EVC would land the female lead in Cap 3. Which obviously didn't happen, because she is not a female lead material. Now they still actually hope she gets a major role in the Avengers movies.

Lmao wat. I haven't been to this forum in ages but I remember you - I see you're still playing the same tired obsessive tune.

At any rate I don't think it's a stretch to think Sharon might have a brief appearance considering she and Steve are a couple? But anyway.

 

[Capsfan]

At any rate I don't think it's a stretch to think Sharon might have a brief appearance considering she and Steve are a couple? But anyway.

I agree with you, it's possible to see a brief cameo. But a couple? Yeah, it's also possible, but as I've said it already, it would be such a cop out to make their relationship happen off-screen. In Civil War it was still too little for them to become a couple. It feels like cheating from the filmmakers. She and Steve barely know each other. They haven't even been on a single date. I think that Cap as the most important MCU character after IM deserves much more developed and well-written romance than that. We need to see Sharon as her own person and why would Steve want to be with her aside from her cute looks and relation to Peggy. Steve talked about wanting to find his "right partner". He wanted someone with shared life experiences.

Anyway, I'm very interested to see what they'll decide to do. Will they drop Steve and Sharon due to backlash? It's also possible. General public didn't seem very interested in this relationship. Or will they consider doing fanservice for comic-book fans still more important?

 

[Minxie]

^ There wasn't an audience 'backlash' at least hardly what the obsessive anti-Sharon people like to claim. I'd wager most general audiences either thought it was nice, if not that memorable, or they didn't have an opinion about it at all and it wouldn't phase them either way if she's around or not.
More likely they're gonna continue what they've been doing all along with the pairing, where they don't invest a lot of screen time or place much emotional weight on it. Sharon will just be his gf or at least someone he has an understanding with (i.e. someone he'd like to be with once he's not a fugitive and has time to settle down) who we see in glimpses. I wouldn't rule out a brief action sequence for her either in one of these 2 upcoming films.

Like it's clear the pairing isn't a huge priority, but at the same time it's not a priority for them to even worry about fleshing out Steve's romantic life so whether or not people like or buy the pairing doesn't matter to them. The pairing is convenient to them as this thing that exists (to stave off complaints about Steve being a 100 year old virgin or whatever) that they don't feel the need to pay a lot of attention to, because they're definitely not interested in putting Steve with anyone else.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Wow... This place is just picking up from the CW thread isn't it.

 

[Capsfan]

Minxie, while I quite agree with your overall analisys, I'm still not convinced it's all so simple as you describe.

There wasn't an audience 'backlash' at least hardly what the obsessive anti-Sharon people like to claim.

By this logic Hulk/Widow didn't get much of a backlash as well.
Even Sharon's fans on these boards are extremely unhappy with it. There was a wordwide twitter campaign heavily hinting that many people didn't like it. (Which is what I actually saw online and IRL. People from general audience, who haven't read comic-books, either didn't care or thought it was rushed and awkward. My friends, which aren't into marvel as much as I am, didn't even remember Sharon from TWS and called Cap a creep to kiss her. I had to remind them that he asked her out in TWS) And the very existence of so-called 'anti-Sharon people' confirmes the existence of backlash. I hope you do understand that Sharon is not a real person, so no one could be truly 'anti-Sharon'. When someone says he doesn't like her in the MCU, what he actually means is that she is a poorly written character. It's not 'her' fault, but the writers' and directors'. Which is objectively true for now. Speaking for myself, for example, I'm a huge sap for on-screen romance. I really wanted to see a good romance for Cap and wanted to love Sharon. I was excited anticipating TWS set up coming to fruition. But with what they ended up willing to give her so far, I came out extremely disappointed. They are making a disservice not only to Sharon's character, but to Cap as well by making his LI being a plot/love-device with no personality of her own. Why the heck Wanda/Vision got more developed and heartfelt romance than Steve in his own last movie?

Also, the deleted reshot scene with Sharon's and Steve's date after the funeral, which lasts hardly any longer than the alternative one in the movie, proves that the test audience didn't like it and that the Russos did care about it, otherwise it would have made the final cut. For example, test audience didn't like Vision's cooking scene, but it was still left in there.
Add to this that Sharon entirely disappears from the movie after the kiss, while in TWS they've made the effort to put her briefly in the ending twice.

 

[MbJ]

I will say from what I remember, just about every single review I read, including the extremely positive ones, cited the Sharon scene as a negative.

Not to the degree that the ship war people view it where it was a crime against nature or anything like that, but there was absolutely a general consensus of "This really didn't need to be in the movie and came completely out of nowhere" among all the reviews I read.

 

[Banshee]

Don't know about infinity war, but I'd like to see Sharron Carter show up more across the universe. Ant Man and the wasp would be a good fit.

 

[Kev4000]

I cant imagine that, they hold the minor characters in their franchises.
It Looks hard to get even Hawkeye in that film.

 

[Panacea]

The actress would be more suitable for a TV series I think. Maybe they will make S.W.O.R.D. after Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

 

[legendkillin]

I think Fury recruited her. He has eyes and ears everywhere and had to know about the Cap vs Tony accords stuff. I believe after Sharon gave the gear back Fury got in contact with her. She would be a valuable asset.

 

[Capsfan]

The only logical place for Sharon to appear aside from IW would be Black Panther since it features CIA with E.Ross heavily. I doubt Fury has now anything to do with Sharon, he has Hill for his small (now) needs and he's laying low. But unfortunately, with already announced BP cast it seems like they miss this opportunity to give her some screentime once again.

At this point I really doubt anyone in Marvel truly cares about this character.