Sequels Should Black Cat be the love interest in SM 4 and 5?

[Venom'sDad]

To be fair, how many times have you been hit on & had no clue?

How would I know...

 

[Hellrider]

I'm kinda inbetween...so i just voted yes. But I think she should sort of be a temptation to him. She's kinda always flirting with him, sorta leading him on, although...he never bites.

 

[Chris Wallace]

How would I know...

My point isn't lost on you, though.

 

[2nzy]

Venom's Dad
exactly fella
get Gwen & Cat in there
MJ is playing Gwen's role which is why she has to die
not accurate no,but thats Raimi's fault for not sticking to the story in the 1st place
when the villian kills MJ the love of Pete's life it will effective because she is the love of his life
not accurate but Sin Eater or Carnage would be the ideal killer for Spidey to take his vengeance
another way of doing would be to have Sin Eater kill Catain Stacy as he is meant to die and was introduced in #3,bringing Pete/Spidey closer to Gwen
Cap Stacy could be helping solve the Sin Eater case over 4/5
all ideas whoever does 4&5 could use
if the story was stuck to in the 1st place we wouldnt have this mess

 

[Adrian89]

Venom's Dad
exactly fella
get Gwen & Cat in there
MJ is playing Gwen's role which is why she has to die
not accurate no,but thats Raimi's fault for not sticking to the story in the 1st place
when the villian kills MJ the love of Pete's life it will effective because she is the love of his life
not accurate but Sin Eater or Carnage would be the ideal killer for Spidey to take his vengeance
another way of doing would be to have Sin Eater kill Catain Stacy as he is meant to die and was introduced in #3,bringing Pete/Spidey closer to Gwen
Cap Stacy could be helping solve the Sin Eater case over 4/5
all ideas whoever does 4&5 could use
if the story was stuck to in the 1st place we wouldnt have this mess

That doesn't mean he has to mess the story even more though!

MJ is MJ, I don't think she must die just because they brought Gwen in SM3.

 

[Spider-Tim 075]

I don't think a new love interrest is what we need, or love plots that just have gotten old. Have him Marry MJ and deal with the responisibility of actually marrying her and thats it.

Black Cat would just make a love-triangle, already seen it in SM3

 

[Spider-Fan83]

whats this love-triangle stuff, in 3, that everyone always goes on about...

 

[Chris Wallace]

Peter flirted with Gwen to get back at MJ for kissing Harry & for dumping him.

 

[Adrian89]

I don't think a new love interrest is what we need, or love plots that just have gotten old. Have him Marry MJ and deal with the responisibility of actually marrying her and thats it.

Black Cat would just make a love-triangle, already seen it in SM3

Yes, agreed Tim. Enough of this c**p! And NO Black Cat and I say NO to killing MJ also! Killing her won't make up for what they did with the story, on the contrary, it will make it even worse!

 

[Spider-Fan83]

Peter flirted with Gwen to get back at MJ for kissing Harry & for dumping him.

exactly, how is that a love-triangle, Gwen was not a love interest(not for Peter anyway)

to me a “love-triangle“, is when one person is in love with two different people and has to make a difficult choice between them...

there was no such choice between, MJ and Gwen, for him

as for MJ’s kiss with Harry, that was a momentary lapse of judgment that she immediately regretted (she may on some level still have feelings for Harry, but, in the end she will always choose Peter over him)

just saying

 

[Adrian89]

You got a point Spider-Fan83, but to be honest I wouldn't wanna see Spidey with a Side-Kick either. I don't hate Black Cat at all, don't get me wrong, I just find her pressence in the SM Movies a bit "useless" if I can say that, although she would certainly be a hot one!

If she is to make an appearence though, I would probably want Felicia to be introduced in SM5 or 6, becoming Black Cat only during 6 and only aid Spider-Man on his final battle agains the Sinister Six maybe? But that's all.

 

[Chris Wallace]

exactly, how is that a love-triangle, Gwen was not a love interest(not for Peter anyway)

to me a “love-triangle“, is when one person is in love with two different people and has to make a difficult choice between them...

there was no such choice between, MJ and Gwen, for him

as for MJ’s kiss with Harry, that was a momentary lapse of judgment that she immediately regretted (she may on some level still have feelings for Harry, but, in the end she will always choose Peter over him)

just saying

There's validity in your argument. Gwen was, at best, a lust interest, which is something Peter had never had to deal with before. That's how it happens sometimes; temptation comes & smacks you dead in the face.
As for MJ & Harry, your argument's completely true. And the truth of the matter is, everyone was at fault. Peter should've been able to see that something was wrong with his girl. MJ should have been more patient & understanding. She also should have told Peter the truth instead of just obeying Harry's orders. Harry should've kept his damn hands off his best friend's woman.
T101, I agree with your first paragraph but not your second. Felicia jumping into the fray at the last minute would only be a retread of the construction site battle.

 

[Venom'sDad]

There's validity in your argument. Gwen was, at best, a lust interest, which is something Peter had never had to deal with before. That's how it happens sometimes; temptation comes & smacks you dead in the face.

I have to disagree with that statement CW. Peter did not at best lust after Gwen... he was just admired so heavily with popularity(that's what he had never experience before) it simply went to his head. Remember he flirted with Betty and the Chocolate cake girl... or for this film, chocolate cookie girl and a few others. Gwen was completely a tool. Peter wallowed in admiration.

As for MJ & Harry, your argument's completely true. And the truth of the matter is, everyone was at fault. Peter should've been able to see that something was wrong with his girl. MJ should have been more patient & understanding. She also should have told Peter the truth instead of just obeying Harry's orders. Harry should've kept his damn hands off his best friend's woman.

This unfortunately, goes to the point I was making about Sam inability to create real, mature, motivations for these villains. Why would MJ, who's boyfriend is freaking Spiderman, be afraid of Harry, who didn't know was Green Goblin 2. This is such a kiddie approach to a hero/villain being adversaries. That was absolutely unnecessary... Sam did not need to have done that; the motivation was already established.

Anyway, the reason why everyone was at fault is because that was the way Sam saw fit to create this love triangle between Peter, MJ, and Harry. Gwen never was part of anything and was a complete waste of character.

 

[Chris Wallace]

MJ didn't know Harry was the Goblin? I'd think swooping on her on a glider, in costume, & hoisting her by the throat might've given her a bit of a clue.
I agree that Peter's newfound popularity went to his head, but the reason why I said Gwen was at best a lust interest is b/c through it all, the idea of seriously pursuing her, or Betty, or Ursula, never entered his head. He didn't want a relationship with her. He just wanted to have some fun. He didn't even notice her outside of schoolwork until the symbiote took him over.

 

[The Slang]

Parker didn't 'lust' for Gwen. He only took her to the jazzclub cause he knew maryjane was already jealous of her. And the kiss was just for the cameras. It's like when politicians all put their arms on eachother like the'yre best friends. He's the hero, kissin the damsel.

The only one he wouldve possibly slept with was betty brant from the look of things.

 

[QWoods]

Gwen should have never showed up in the first place well she actually should have but in the first and maybe second movie, they shouldn't have waited until the third movie to introduce her, she was a waist. Felicia Hardy would have made so much more sense and could have set up future plots and stuff "BLACK CAT". Felicia could have been more interesting than Gwen Stacy was in SM3

 

[Adrian89]

Gwen should have never showed up in the first place well she actually should have but in the first and maybe second movie, they shouldn't have waited until the third movie to introduce her, she was a waist. Felicia Hardy would have made so much more sense and could have set up future plots and stuff "BLACK CAT". Felicia could have been more interesting than Gwen Stacy was in SM3

I agree on this! But what has been done is done. It cannot be changed now.

 

[8wid]

They need to take a step back from Mary Jane for awhile. One of the other love interests is now a must have because Kirsten Dunst is in it too much.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Personally, I agree; however, i'm not sure how they can do that within the realms of the continuity they have created... unless MJ leaves NYC to pursue her career.

 

[Spiderine]

Gwen should have never showed up in the first place well she actually should have but in the first and maybe second movie, they shouldn't have waited until the third movie to introduce her, she was a waist. Felicia Hardy would have made so much more sense and could have set up future plots and stuff "BLACK CAT". Felicia could have been more interesting than Gwen Stacy was in SM3

I don't think Raimi wanted to include the character in this film. It was another bad idea concocted by Arad along with Venom. And I agree completely, Felicia would have played much better for the lust angle whether she would have become Black Cat or not. Even the use Captain Stacy was lame as hell.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

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[Sebastos]

I think Felicia should have been in SM-3 to be honest. Gwen reminded me so much of her....

 

[anrrd_2]

BC should be spideys love interest, but Felicia and peter should despise each other...also, peter and gwen should be an item...and, well, we all know how that ends

 

[GoldGoblin]

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[TheScarecrow]

How do you prevent a Catwoman rip-off looking like a Catwoman rip-off in the same year Catwoman will be in a movie?

Bad, bad, bad idea. There's so many more interesting villains and plotlines.