should Frank Miller direct a sequel?

[Hypestyle]

if The Spirit goes over well.. maybe he can turn out a hardcore 'R' punisher film

 

[Brendan]

I doubt he would even be interested in The Punisher.

 

[Mutagen]

Good idea, but I don't think Punisher is his 'style.' I don't know why, but I get the feeling he wouldn't want to do it.

 

[ObakeTora]

probably because DareDevil was one of his best moments and he doesnt want to tick off the ol horn head by doing a movie about his sometime nemesis. I think he should have directed Daredevil and adapt one of his best stories to film. Who's with me?

 

[S. Grundy]

Plus, there's no real knowing how good a director he is until The Spirit comes out. Because, there is no real knowing how much of Sin City was Rodriguez or Miller, though I was actually able to pick what scene Tarantino directed the first time I saw it.

 

[citizenpain]

i'd love to see david fincher direct a punisher flick.

 

[Evil Twin]

I doubt he's interested, but I like the idea. And not because I think Miller would be "faithful" but because I think he'd make The Punisher cinematically relevant.

The biggest problem I see with The Punisher on film is that the armed urban vigilante has been mined to death on the big screen. It's no coincidence that The Punisher was created in the 1970s shortly after Death Wish. While The Punisher is a good contrast to the normal comic book heroes, the skull iconography is really the only unique thing he brings to the movies. What was the last urban vigilante movie that was a true hit?

I think the other main problem is that the Italian Mafia isn't seen as a formidible foe any more. Goodfellas and The Sopranos have certainly deromanticized the Mafia and indicated that they survive as much on luck as on any special skill. Arguably, the Punisher's most favored foe is now largely considered irrelevant.

The face of crime for much of America now is black gangbangers and terrorists, specifically Osama Bin Laden. Is anyone crazy enough to make a movie about a white vigilante gunning down black gangbangers in this political climate? Does anyone in Hollywood have the chutzpah to send The Punisher after Osama Bin Laden? I don't even know if Miller would go there, but he'd certainly think of some hook to make The Punisher relevant again.

 

[Brendan]

There is a ton of original stories that Garth Ennis came up with in the MAX series. In the Beginning and The Slavers are especially good, as well as The Cell.

If I was to throw out a possible new director for a sequel, I'll say Ryuhei Kitamura.

 

[S. Grundy]

The Buldats were shoehorned into War Zone, but I guess you could just give the characters different names.

 

[Mutagen]

I doubt he's interested, but I like the idea. And not because I think Miller would be "faithful" but because I think he'd make The Punisher cinematically relevant.

The biggest problem I see with The Punisher on film is that the armed urban vigilante has been mined to death on the big screen. It's no coincidence that The Punisher was created in the 1970s shortly after Death Wish. While The Punisher is a good contrast to the normal comic book heroes, the skull iconography is really the only unique thing he brings to the movies. What was the last urban vigilante movie that was a true hit?

I think the other main problem is that the Italian Mafia isn't seen as a formidible foe any more. Goodfellas and The Sopranos have certainly deromanticized the Mafia and indicated that they survive as much on luck as on any special skill. Arguably, the Punisher's most favored foe is now largely considered irrelevant.

The face of crime for much of America now is black gangbangers and terrorists, specifically Osama Bin Laden. Is anyone crazy enough to make a movie about a white vigilante gunning down black gangbangers in this political climate? Does anyone in Hollywood have the chutzpah to send The Punisher after Osama Bin Laden? I don't even know if Miller would go there, but he'd certainly think of some hook to make The Punisher relevant again.

Smart organized crime is best kept out of what you and I normally hear about. Do you think the gangsters let their ideas float around the public? As long as law is existent, so will the forces that challenge it. We just don't know about it. There are certainly foes for the Punisher to bring to justice.

 

[Evil Twin]

Smart organized crime is best kept out of what you and I normally hear about. Do you think the gangsters let their ideas float around the public? As long as law is existent, so will the forces that challenge it. We just don't know about it. There are certainly foes for the Punisher to bring to justice.

It doesn't matter what "smart organized crime" actually is, although I think Goodfellas and The Sopranos are a lot more accurate than the romanticized myths are, what matters is that the public perception is that organized crime is popularly seen as neither relevant or especially dangerous in the wake of almost two decades of demythologizing. It's certainly not relevant to vast swathes of suburban America. Arguably, the foes The Punisher normally fights are "smaller" than the foes faced by almost every other action hero on the big screen. That's a problem. As is the fact that the armed urban vigilante is not a unique figure to movie audiences. Arguably it's a played out figure to movie audiences.

Yes, there are ways around those problems, but those are issues that have to be addressed not ignored.

 

[Microchip]

As said, lets see what Frank Miller can do by himself. If he wanted to do a sequel, for sure give him the reigns if he can prove his directing chops. I think Punisher needs a bigger budget more than a bigger name directing though. Having someone who understands what Punisher needs to be wouldn't hurt though.