The Force Awakens Should the Sequel Trilogy bring back the Old Characters?

[Doc Ock]

Hamill. I'm betting my entire existence on it.

Hamill better return, or I will stop existing myself!

 

[Human Torch]

I have no idea what the point of a sequel trilogy would be if it DIDN'T bring back the old characters.

It's not like it's that hard. Just have Mark Hamill grow a beard and fulfill the Obi-Wan Kenobi role. Sheesh. It's not rocket science!

Exactly. Plus A.It's called Ep 7 for a reason.Not a whole new story being told here.It's connected at least in some respect,to the saga as a whole.

And B. It's going to be based on Lucas fabled "sequel trilogy" outline,and legend has it Hamill and Fisher have been under contract to do at least two of those films since the 70's.

 

[Gianakin_]

I agree. Only thing I feel is the Academy sort of undermines the half-thought out prophecy of the prequels. By that (don't get me wrong I do enjoy the prequels). I feel the Force is only in balance because the Sith are gone and (we won't get into those in hiding or whateveR), officially only one Jedi still stands.
This can be easily retconned to either the prophecy not defining how long the Force would stay in balance, or to it beign a debatable factor in the least. the point is, even if they aren't following Sith teachings, eventually one or more of Luke's students will fall and will either seek power in the dark side, or use his anger and just go Dark Jedi. Point is, an Academy truly only sets up for a lack of balance again.

That said, I still want to see an Academy, I at least want to see a small Jedi group for these films. My point being, I'm not against them going in a different direction with this either.t:

to me, the only way the Prophecy is fulfilled is this: After Anakin kills Sidious in RotJ, Luke is the ONLY (that's right) Jedi left. Thing is... he's not a traditional light side Jedi. He's certainly not dark. He's grey. A perfect balance (which could be challenged in the ST, of course) between lgiht and dark.

And his Academy spawns a new generation of grey Jedi.

I mean in RotJ he enters the movie by choking a couple of b**ches.

 

[Gianakin_]

GL says in his head Luke doesn't marry... which, I agree, is a huge mistake. That's what cracked up Anakin and the whole point of hiding Luke and Leia with actual families until they were teenagers was to give them a firmer touchstone with humanity before throwing them into the battle of Jedi vs Sith.

Anakin cracked because he was selfish and greedy, so was his love for Padme. It's not because he got married. Luke's sidestepped that. The only 2 times he almost cracked was in RotJ and then in Dark Empire, under all the pressure of his role in the galaxy.

 

[Gianakin_]

That's yet another problem GL made in the PT that so much of the OT would seem to rectify if followed to the logical conclusion(as the EU has done). Surprise, taking babies away from their parents and raising them to be emotionless warrior monks might be a bad idea. Especially when they all live in an ivory tower and support corruptible structures like a Galactic Senate.

Which is why I think the PT handled it brilliantly. The Jedi had all those strict and dogmatic behavior and rules (like, against marriage) and they were basically as corrupt as the Republic. That's where the Sith found a window and f**ked 'em up.

 

[Gianakin_]

When you think back of indiana jones do you picture him at his prime or how he was in the last movie? Is it possible some of the illusion is lost when you bring back these actors 20-30 years later to play the same character?

I picture him as a hero who got old. 'Cause heroes are allowed to do that.

And Luke deserves to be the new Obi Wan, or even Yoda. If they write him as awesome as in the books you won't even have to worry about him being out of shape, 'cause he'll be powerful enough to not need a lightsaber.

 

[Gianakin_]

I don't want the movie to be about a bunch of old men and robots. The fact is that Star Wars was a generation ago and it's time to pass it on to a new generation.

I don't think anyone wants the characters from the OT to be the main ones in the ST. We're simply talking re-appearances.

 

[Gianakin_]

Lucas told Hamill and Fischer about this project over a year ago!

http://www.slashfilm.com/george-luc...arrie-fisher-about-the-new-trilogy-last-year/

I guess there goes that trashy rumour that Hamill resents George and SW. As if it's not natural for tension to exist on a movie set. Or during a long collaboration.

 

[Gianakin_]

Lando is probably the best and coolest black character in pop culture, me thinks. What Empire Strikes Back did well was that Lando never ever came off as a token character.

And then he became one in RotJ.

 

[redhawk23]

^Because blowing up the death star and bringing about the climax of the film is such a token role.

 

[Gianakin_]

He wasn't nearly as interesting as he was in ESB. And Nien Nunb could've been written to pilot the Falcon and blow up the DS and the script wouldn't have changed at all.

 

[AnneFan]

I don't think anyone wants the characters from the OT to be the main ones in the ST. We're simply talking re-appearances.

Exactly.

Yoda, Vader, Obi-Wan and these famous types are all gone. New characters will get their chance, ala Anakin had his children become the heroes in the OT. I think there should be some connective tissue in there, some familiar face/s, for the time being at least, to add colour to the film.

 

[Great Mind(s)]

Luke must be the new Yoda type. You know? He's older, he should be hidden in the shadows as this mysterious Jedi Master.

 

[LegendAssemble]

Which is why I think the PT handled it brilliantly. The Jedi had all those strict and dogmatic behavior and rules (like, against marriage) and they were basically as corrupt as the Republic. That's where the Sith found a window and f**ked 'em up.

Thats not handled brilliantly at all. The Jedi in the prequels are nothing like the Jedi in the original trilogy. Anakins fall wasn't tragic it was stupid, I mean it doesn't take a renowned psychologist to look at this brooding, angry mess and come to conclude he's losing it.

Not to mention Anakin and Padmes relationship wasn't selfish or greedy it was just really forced and there was nothing in the movies to state that his love wasn't why he fell to the darkside. I hate to break it to you, but the original films weren't greatly received either, however over the years things have changed, but the prequels aren't getting any better in the public eye. I don't think it's necessarily fair to say they were brilliant by any means.

 

[Gianakin_]

Thats not handled brilliantly at all. The Jedi in the prequels are nothing like the Jedi in the original trilogy. Anakins fall wasn't tragic it was stupid, I mean it doesn't take a renowned psychologist to look at this brooding, angry mess and come to conclude he's losing it.

Not to mention Anakin and Padmes relationship wasn't selfish or greedy it was just really forced and there was nothing in the movies to state that his love wasn't why he fell to the darkside. I hate to break it to you, but the original films weren't greatly received either, however over the years things have changed, but the prequels aren't getting any better in the public eye. I don't think it's necessarily fair to say they were brilliant by any means.

Sure, alright.

 

[AnneFan]

I have seen people talk about Luke appearing as a force ghost. That would be good to see, but I wouldn't want to see it right now. I'd like to see it take place about 30 years after ROTJ - with Luke as the Old Ben type. Having set up his Jedi academy in that time. It would be a fitting legacy for him, after being the last Jedi to helping restoring them.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I'd be open to the original cast coming back but honestly, to distance itself and avoid more scrutiny, just set this thousands of years later. It just opens for more opportunity. This universe is so vast I think it would be kind of a waste to just continue. And this is called Episode 7 more for the sake of brand recognition. It doesn't mean anything in terms of it continuing after Jedi. This can go either way. The thousands of years works because we haven't really seen it before and it would justify a new threat happening.

 

[Lord]

If this was called Episode VII just for brand recongition it would be a terrible move, many of the people i've seen on the net interested want to see the old cast back, some didn't even read the EU material and so say they would like to know what happened to Luke after Episode VI.

They have a unique oportunity, i don't mind spin-off and one shot films set in the SW universe but they better not be called "episode *".

 

[Doc Ock]

Mark Hamill as the Obi-Wan/Yoda type is a must.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I'd rather have him as the Jar Jar type. Disney could do wonders with that.

Mesa a Jedi masta.

 

[spidergeek232]

Who cares if Mark is bigger now, he'd be a freaking grand master!!! The master of masters!! The original cast is a must.

 

[LegendAssemble]

Who cares if Mark is bigger now, he'd be a freaking grand master!!! The master of masters!! The original cast is a must.

he could lose some weight he's not hurting on money for a dietitian or a personal trainer.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I don't mind a recast. If you can successfully recast James Bond, Batman, Superman, the cast of Star Trek, Bilbo Baggins, Sherlock Holmes, the Incredible Hulk, Jack Ryan and God knows how many other characters, I don't see why you can't recast here. Yeah, Star Wars is sacred, you're raping my childhood, blah, blah, blah. People need to get over it and realize that if the movie is good, that's really all that matters.

 

[Nathan]

Really depends when the Movie takes place. If it's soon after Episode 6, recasts are inevitable. If it's several decades later, then at the very least Hamill has to return as a Jedi Master. Or even force ghost.

 

[Daybreak_st]

The two people that I don't see the franchise having any difficulty in recruiting back should they need them are Mark Hamil and Billy Dee Williams imho.

And honestly, if only a few can or want to return, they could just say that the ones that didn't come back were killed off prior to the events of the sequel trilogy.


Also, I'd like to think that with them moving forward from the events of "ROTJ" that we may get like a Animation Series that dives into the events between the ending of ROTJ and before the start of the sequel trilogy, especially since there's bound to be a large separation of time between the two films. I've always wanted to see in some media form of what happened in canonical terms with Luke Skywalker after defeating the Emperor.

I love this idea. After watching the Clone Wars animated series I've often wondered/hoped they would do something similar with Luke's story after Return of the Jedi. It needs to be told. And the current animated series is light years better than the prequels. So just imagine how good an animated series done by the same team but about Luke, Han and Leia! It would be epic!