Should your job control how you live...if you are an investment.

[SoulManX]

So here is the question...you are very high in a company paying you big bucks, should that company control your life out side of work? No drinking, drugs, late night parties that could lead to trouble?

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

To a certain degree, why are you asking?

 

[SoulManX]

To a certain degree, why are you asking?

Just a question that's been roaming around in my head. And to what degree would that be GAH?

 

[jaguarr]

Absolutely not. My company is just as privileged to have me working for them as I am to be working for them. It's a symbiotic relationship. They do not own or control me or what I do with my personal life. As long as I deliver results in my working life, the rest of my life is none of their damn business.

jag

 

[terry78]

If you're coming to work ****ed up every morning and unproductive, then yeah, they have a right to look into it if you're causing problems.

 

[tzarinna]

I work to live, ya dig?

 

[Noir]

I had a job at Spencers Gifts and they wouldn't let us go outside and smoke.. I still did it and got fired like 3 months after I was hired, ****ing Spencers don't be fooled by them, they control their employees.

 

[jaguarr]

I had a job at Spencers Gifts and they wouldn't let us go outside and smoke.. I still did it and got fired like 3 months after I was hired, ****ing Spencers don't be fooled by them, they control their employees.

Not as much as nicotine does, apparently.

jag

 

[SoulManX]

Absolutely not. My company is just as privileged to have me working for them as I am to be working for them. It's a symbiotic relationship. They do not own or control me or what I do with my personal life. As long as I deliver results in my working life, the rest of my life is none of their damn business.

jag

I understand where you are coming from Jag...but if you end up dead or in jail that won't help the company.

 

[terry78]

^Are you the drunk/druggie in this scenario, dawg?

 

[jaguarr]

I understand where you are coming from Jag...but if you end up dead or in jail that won't help the company.

WTF? Doesn't it reason to stand that, if I am a responsible, productive and reliable employee I'm probably pretty level headed and have my sh1t straight in my private life? And anyway, the company doesn't own me. Period. I'm a free man and I will live my life that way without interference from any company or government.

jag

 

[SoulManX]

^Are you the drunk/druggie in this scenario, dawg?

Nope not me...

 

[bell110]

I understand where you are coming from Jag...but if you end up dead or in jail that won't help the company.

My company has a strict "no dying" policy.

 

[SoulManX]

WTF? Doesn't it reason to stand that, if I am a responsible, productive and reliable employee I'm probably pretty level headed and have my sh1t straight in my private life? And anyway, the company doesn't own me. Period. I'm a free man and I will live my life that way without interference from any company or government.

jag

Just playing devil's advocate

 

[jaguarr]

Just playing devil's advocate

Which is basically advocating the idea that people can't and shouldn't be trusted to live their lives the way they want to because "the company" is more important than them or their happiness and therefore should be allowed to determine everything that an employee does not only in their working hours but in their non-working hours as well. Welcome to Corporate Socialism.

jag

 

[Superman4ever]

So here is the question...you are very high in a company paying you big bucks, should that company control your life out side of work? No drinking, drugs, late night parties that could lead to trouble?

Um, for me it's an absolute critical not to party late, drink or do drugs on on-call nights. We do have actual rules that state no drinking, drugs and such.

 

[SoulManX]

Which is basically advocating the idea that people can't and shouldn't be trusted to live their lives the way they want to because "the company" is more important than them or their happiness and therefore should be allowed to determine everything that an employee does not only in their working hours but in their non-working hours as well. Welcome to Corporate Socialism.

jag

It could happen in the near future...Im not for it mind you but it just pop in my head as question to see what people thought about it.

 

[jaguarr]

It could happen in the near future...Im not for it mind you but it just pop in my head as question to see what people thought about it.

I've seen no indication in the corporate sector that anything like this could happen in the near or distant future, to be honest with you. Not sure where you're coming up with that.

jag

 

[SoulManX]

I've seen no indication in the corporate sector that anything like this could happen in the near or distant future, to be honest with you. Not sure where you're coming up with that.

jag

Hmmm I see

 

[lazur]

It depends on the company. Some companies require you to sign agreements which in some ways can restrict your freedom. Other companies have 'official policies' they enforce, which you must agree to by signature.

If the agreement you signed states that you can't smoke during company hours, hey, you're the one who signed it. You're the one who's not honoring an agreement. You had the option of choosing the job, just as you had the option of choosing not to conform to its requirements.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

People here are controlled by their job. They get up,go to work,come home,go to sleep,then get up and go back to work. It never ends for them.

 

[Argyle of Sock]

In short: no. But I suppose that if you are absolutely opposed to those kinds of restrictions you don't have to work there.

 

[Matt]

I understand where you are coming from Jag...but if you end up dead or in jail that won't help the company.

Neither will them firing me for not following the ridiculous policies. Where does the line get drawn? Are you not allowed to smoke or eat a lot in your personal life as you are more likely to get heart disease or cancer? If you get a speeding ticket you have to go to a mandatory seminar about safe driving because you can get in a crash and die? As long as an employees personal life does not interfere with their work life, then the company has no right to try and control them.

 

[Matt]

It depends on the company. Some companies require you to sign agreements which in some ways can restrict your freedom. Other companies have 'official policies' they enforce, which you must agree to by signature.

If the agreement you signed states that you can't smoke during company hours, hey, you're the one who signed it. You're the one who's not honoring an agreement. You had the option of choosing the job, just as you had the option of choosing not to conform to its requirements.

Thats during COMPANY HOURS though. The question is, if they can interfere with your personal life.

 

[lazur]

Thats during COMPANY HOURS though. The question is, if they can interfere with your personal life.

I don't see how they could enforce it unless part of the agreement for employment requires some kind of medical testing in order to ensure compliance.

At the end of the day, companies can make whatever policies and restrictions they want. If people are unwilling to conform to those policies and restrictions, no one's holding a gun to their heads and making them work there.