Siege

[Sakuraba]

I was disappointed with the conclusion in this chapter of the Sentry/Void story.

I really wanted to get some bits and pieces of the Void's backstory. Not an origin story, but a taste of its nature and its past. As has been mentioned already, Sentry's been killed a couple of times already, and sending the dude with the power of a million exploding stars... into a star is kinda weak. Ideally for me, Sentry would have been separated from the Void, becoming depowered and only powered by the serum. He could continue on as a contributor in the Avengers or whatever, without being an overpowered mental cripple.

The boat was missed on the Void methinks. The whole angel of death thing sounds like nonsense, and his return was set up via giving Rogue Voidorrhea. Something could have been set up where Void has a history and possible origin in the cosmos. Put Void on the cosmic level, retcon him in somewhere neatly, a fallen Celestial maybe. After Bob "gets" his victory over him, Void goes off into space. The heroes rejoice because the day is saved, but there is an ominous foreboding as to the Void's next victims in space and potential return to earth someday.

FWIW

 

[Anubis]

They shoulda tossed his ass into the Crunch.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

or the Fault

 

[Anubis]

Or She Hulk's Vagina.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Can't top that, you win sir

 

[Anubis]

As if there was any doubt.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm really bored of seeing this "the Sentry/Void would be good if he were cosmic!" idea floating around. The Sentry and the Void suck. Hard. I know they have their fans who dug the Jenkins stuff and still fervently wish Bendis could live up to that, but he can't and he didn't. He ran the Sentry/Void into the ground, pissed on him, covered that spot over in dirt, and then spat on it for good measure. Taking him up to the cosmic line at this point wouldn't have done anything other than stink up the otherwise fantastic cosmic line. He's dead and that's for the best. Give him a couple years' rest and then maybe someone who doesn't relish the thought of completely undermining everything Jenkins did can come along and give the character a fresh, promising new start. Only time can wash away the level of suck Bendis instilled in the character.

 

[Sakuraba]

I see your concerns, but The Void would get a clean slate in space without Bob are any of the Bendis' baggage, and would hopefully be accompanied by a genuine backstory. It'd be like a whole new character! With his threatening power levels already established!

I don't endorse bringing the Void back immediately, but in a couple of years. If he stinks then it would only be as a major villain in one event book. Then he's done. Maybe he's goes back to earth, maybe he's f***ing dead. Like, a really good death at the hands of Nova.

 

[Red Mask]

Good riddance to that Druggie!


Thor took his place as the Mightiest Hero of Marvel. It is fitting the Million Dying Suns should be consumed by One Living Sun. As it was when Opus did their own rendition of Laibach's "Life is Life":

"When We All give the Power, We All give the Best.
Every minute of an Hour, don't think about the rest.
And you All get the Power, you All get the Best.
When Everyone gets everything, and every song Everybody sings,
'And it's Life'. (Na na nana na)

Life is Life. (Na na nana na)

 

[Aesop Rocks]

Are you done yet?

 

[Red Mask]

Are you done yet?

This is a time of celebration.

SING! SING, GODDAMN YOU!

 

[Aesop Rocks]

celebrate what? The death of a character we all knew was going to die?

 

[Red Mask]

celebrate what? The death of a character we all knew was going to die?

t: You betcha ! t:

 

[Aesop Rocks]

I just don't feel like dancing anymore.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Don't let the music die, Aesop.

 

[squeekness]

I guess I was the only one who liked Sentry. Even if he was a schizophrenic druggie.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

Looks like Sentry was suffering from some [blackout]Void[/blackout] rage.

 

[Karelia]

I guess I was the only one who liked Sentry. Even if he was a schizophrenic druggie.

Naw, not the only one! I like him. t:

My friend seems positive he's going to return soon. And I'm betting he will too, it doesn't really make sense for him to die the way he did, when he's done that to himself and survived before.

Is "Fallen Sun" already out? If not when's the release date for it?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It came out this week.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Eh, it was alright. As always, Olivier Coipel's art was stunning, and as it has done throughout Siege as a whole, really covered for a multitude of Bendis' sins and made the book more than the sum of its parts. I'm starting to wonder if it was Coipel that was the true genius in the Straczynski/Coipel run on Thor, given how quickly JMS' magic on the title wore off once Coipel departed. Flawed as Siege #4 may have been, it was beautiful to look at.

But there were flaws. Chief among them was the treatment of my favorite Marvel villain, Loki. I had been looking forward to him stepping up to the plate and really getting a big role in this final instalment, but not only did that not happen, but Bendis had Loki act drastically out of character to the way Straczynski and more recently Gillen have been methodically building him up over the past couple of years. It was also a rather unremarkable, anti-climactic death for the character too, though I imagine his dealings with Hela in Siege: Loki to render himself basically immune to death will come back into play to ensure this isn't the end for him.

On the flipside, Loki's brother fared much better. Thor was a primo badass in this issue. It was appropriate to see him be the guy to ultimately bring Sentry down - given both the longstanding desire from fans to see Thor VS Sentry and just in terms of the story, with Asgard being destroyed. Siege showed Thor is not to be messed with. That crazy mofo will fry you to a cinder, pound you to mush with his hammer, throw your corpse into THE SUN then go dance with your mama.

 

[Vartha]

I don't think he's gone KS.
At least they planned this one out a bit more than other rebirths.
Loki is technically immortal now, and Doom has a sample of Loki's genetic code. I don't see Loki being gone for long. It's a ploy.

 

[WolfCypher]

I don't think he's gone KS.
At least they planned this one out a bit more than other rebirths.
Loki is technically immortal now, and Doom has a sample of Loki's genetic code. I don't see Loki being gone for long. It's a ploy.

No ploy...mischief!

 

[Keyser Soze]

I don't think he's gone KS.
At least they planned this one out a bit more than other rebirths.
Loki is technically immortal now, and Doom has a sample of Loki's genetic code. I don't see Loki being gone for long. It's a ploy.

Oh yeah, I have no doubts about that. But I just think Loki got short-changed in the end here. I get it, they wanted it to be all about the good guys getting their time in the sun, but I think a single beat somehow showing how Loki had one-upped death and how everything was still going to plan would have been a nice coda to this long con of his. Maybe we'll get something like that in the next issue of Thor.

 

[Vartha]

Oh yeah, I have no doubts about that. But I just think Loki got short-changed in the end here. I get it, they wanted it to be all about the good guys getting their time in the sun, but I think a single beat somehow showing how Loki had one-upped death and how everything was still going to plan would have been a nice coda to this long con of his. Maybe we'll get something like that in the next issue of Thor.

Yeah I'm hoping there's more to this other than the Ragnarok fight before Thor goes exploring.
Loki's still up to something, and this just has to be something to throw the Asgardians off the trail of his involvement of Bor.

 

[Vartha]

No ploy...mischief!

same thing when it comes to Loki. t: