Siege

[i'm Spider-Man]

What do you guys thinkwill hapen to each of the Dark avengers when they lose in the end?

TBH, i wouldn't be surprised if most of them were killed, crippled or depowered.

Bullseye's fears are pretty valid - with the exception of maybe Moonstone and Venom, they're WAY outclassed.

 

[runawayboulder]

What do you guys thinkwill hapen to each of the Dark avengers when they lose in the end?

Daken is getting his own ongoing (Wolverine's getting his book back) and Moonstone has been revealed as being in the new Thunderbolts lineup led by Luke Cage. She's most likely getting arrested and forced to work for the government as a prisoner.

Osborn is either getting killed or going to jail, if I were a betting man I'd say killed, just because I'm getting that feeling from the solits of ASM: American Son limited series which is mostly about Harry Osborn in a post SIEGE Marvel U. He might actually become American Son since it's what his dad wanted, it sounds wacky but the Osborn's are wacky.

I'm praying Sentry gets killed, but going to space with Nova and Guardians of the Galaxy may save the character.

Bullseye is getting killed as far as I'm concerned. I think you can take that to the bank. He's got no reason to go back to DD since they have Lady Bullseye in that book and she's more of a fresh character.

Venom-Gargan will either die or fade into obscurity.

That leaves Victoria Hand, who really isn't a villain, she's just a disgraced SHIELD agent that Osborn picked out of a hat to be his assistant. I'd like to see her join up with the Avengers or Secret Avengers in some capacity.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't know why people think going to space will save the Sentry. Going to space will not save the Sentry unless they write him as a drastically different character from how Bendis has been writing him. And you know what? Writing him as a drastically different character from how Bendis has been writing him would save him anywhere! It's called writing a character well as opposed to writing a character badly, which is what Bendis has been doing for the past 3 or 4 years.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Bullseye's definitely surviving. You don't have a character gripe as long and pointedly as Bullseye has about the risks of a mission if you intend to kill him off.

Anyway, here's what I hope:

Bullseye survives, goes back to being a Daredevil villain.

Gargan dies, the symbiote returns to Eddie.

Daken dies and no one cares.

Moonstone obviously survives and is going to join Luke Cage's Thunderbolts.

Sentry dies and never, ever, ever comes back.

Norman escapes and goes completely bonkers, restoring the Green Goblin persona and giving Spider-Man back his #1 villain.

I'd agree with all of that except for Sentry dying and Gargan dying. I wouldn't mind the symbiote dying though. Then Gargan can go back to be being a better villain than Venom ever was

Also, I don't care what happens to Daken and Moonstone.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Daken is getting his own ongoing (Wolverine's getting his book back) and Moonstone has been revealed as being in the new Thunderbolts lineup led by Luke Cage. She's most likely getting arrested and forced to work for the government as a prisoner.

Osborn is either getting killed or going to jail, if I were a betting man I'd say killed, just because I'm getting that feeling from the solits of ASM: American Son limited series which is mostly about Harry Osborn in a post SIEGE Marvel U. He might actually become American Son since it's what his dad wanted, it sounds wacky but the Osborn's are wacky.

I'm praying Sentry gets killed, but going to space with Nova and Guardians of the Galaxy may save the character.

Bullseye is getting killed as far as I'm concerned. I think you can take that to the bank. He's got no reason to go back to DD since they have Lady Bullseye in that book and she's more of a fresh character.

Venom-Gargan will either die or fade into obscurity.

That leaves Victoria Hand, who really isn't a villain, she's just a disgraced SHIELD agent that Osborn picked out of a hat to be his assistant. I'd like to see her join up with the Avengers or Secret Avengers in some capacity.

Lady Bullseye isn't anything like Bullseye, though, oustdie of working for Fisk


And Venom is not going to fade into obscurity. Seriously, Venom? He'll be around forever, ruining Spider-Man stories and increasing sales.

I wouldnt mind if Gargan went back to being the Scorpion though. **** that teent bopper that's using the name

 

[WolfCypher]

Gargan was lame as the Scorpion and lame as Venom. I wouldn't mind if Gargan did die, regardless of whether Eddie gets the symbiote back or not. In fact, I wouldn't mind if Eddie didn't get the symbiote back (since he has the Anti-Venom suit), just so long as we are rid of dumb-ass Gargan!

But since we're supposedly getting a Venom vs. Anti-Venom miniseries, maybe Gargan won't die in Siege.

God, I'm tired of my keyboard/computer! I type and al too often th strokes don't regiter!

 

[SouLeSS]

I don't know why people think going to space will save the Sentry. Going to space will not save the Sentry unless they write him as a drastically different character from how Bendis has been writing him. And you know what? Writing him as a drastically different character from how Bendis has been writing him would save him anywhere! It's called writing a character well as opposed to writing a character badly, which is what Bendis has been doing for the past 3 or 4 years.

It worked for Annihilus and Ultron though. I'm saying like, have him (bob) and void go at it in his mind and the entire Sentry character just jets off into the vast nothing of space in exile. Then maybe three or four years down the road someone writing the cosmic stuff could kinda come in and be like "hey so you remember sentry and how awful he was? we're gonna fix all that". Then either turn him into some super badass villain or have him be one of the good guys, but keep him in the cosmic scene where he has a chance of being outmatched.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Ultron was already great before the cosmic books. He just had that one unfortunate s***stain in Mighty Avengers written by... oh, lookie here, Bendis.

I'd be all for the Sentry going full-on villain or, better yet, the Void. But I've always maintained that the Void is a far better character than the Sentry. Again, though, you could have him become a villain or the Void on Earth and it'd work just as well because you wouldn't be writing him as a whiny b****.

 

[SouLeSS]

I just wanna see how DnA would handle him personally. I think they'd find a nice middleground for his powers somehow and take the dual personalities thing to a higher and better level.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, it can't get much worse than Bendis, I guess. I just don't see him as a useful or necessary character. He had his time in the sun and it was good; just leave it at that rather than trying to milk him further.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

He's best played (as a hero) as someone who occasionally shows up and does stuff (when his fears allow). Or as a villan.

Personally, the ONLY way he can work, is if his powers were constantly repressed, so that he's more in line with others, as would be the Void.

Oh, and to begin showing him as the creator sorta intended, the Sentry and Void with personality traits AWAY from Bob's. Neither one are really plagued by his fears, aside from not existing, and being one half of the other.

 

[SouLeSS]

That's what I'm saying. Have him be the next "this dudes about to destroy all of reality" cosmic villain, or have something happen that severely downpowers him and levels him out a bit.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

The Void really wasn't interested in destroying all of reality.

It goes against his, "I feed on your f***ing soul" habit. And his controlling of crime itself.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Gargan was lame as the Scorpion and lame as Venom.

To be fair, everybody is lame as Venom.

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Well, it can't get much worse than Bendis, I guess. I just don't see him as a useful or necessary character. He had his time in the sun and it was good; just leave it at that rather than trying to milk him further.

I have a feeling that you don't really think his time in the sun was good

 

[Drz]

 

[Brown Lantern]

Why does everyone love the Void? I have read everything with the Sentry/Void in it and the Void is such a lame two dimentional character. I am all that is evil, for every life you save I kill one, blah blah blah. I get it your evil personified. I hate villains whose sole motivation is to do evil (because really there is no good or evil just perspective). We all love Doom, Luthor, and Magneto because they truly believe their actions to be just, not just eeeeevvvviiilllllll.

In regards to killing this worthless character, why can't Emma Frost or someone just go back into his head and wipe his mind clean. Make him the Avengers housemaid for all I care.

Another senario I wouldnt mind would be Jean Grey coming back to take down the Void/Sentry. One cosmic force vs. one Godly force. I'd buy that for a dollar.

 

[Union Jack]

or maybe have the void and sentry ripped apart for good and bob take on his evil twin ala superman 3 and win...let him be depowered to at the most superman level change his costume and look so he can restart his life again...it is interesting to see how much osborn his corrupted bob to be letting his evil side out.

i also (on a side note) would love to see wonderman return at some point too!

 

[CantThinkOfAName]

Haha to that Sarah Palin cartoon

 

[Spider-Vader]

Bullseye is getting killed as far as I'm concerned. I think you can take that to the bank. He's got no reason to go back to DD since they have Lady Bullseye in that book and she's more of a fresh character.

Venom-Gargan will either die or fade into obscurity.

I'd like to see Bullseye become a villain to Hawkeye in a possible Hawkeye/Mockingbird ongoing.

As for Gargan, I think he'll stay. Eddie's being Anti-Venom, so who else will be Venom?

 

[runawayboulder]

I'd like to see Bullseye become a villain to Hawkeye in a possible Hawkeye/Mockingbird ongoing.

As for Gargan, I think he'll stay. Eddie's being Anti-Venom, so who else will be Venom?

I'd just like to see Barton STAY in the Hawkeye costume forever. A Bullseye/Hawkeye feud would be only interesting if Bullseye totally smeared the Hawkeye name while masquerading in the costume. I don't feel that was ever established much. Most of the Marvel U has to know that the guy dressed as Hawkeye for the past year isn't the REAL Hawkeye.

Gargan needs to go back to being the Scorpion and Brock needs to either become Venom again or stay as Anti-Venom, since Gauntlet is going on right now and that's all about reestablishing Spidey's rogue gallery.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Has Bullseye even done anything particularly bad as Hawkeye in the public eye? I thought he still looked like a perfectly stand-up hero between his trying to keep out of trouble and Osborn's spin machine cleaning up whatever little slip-ups he might've had.

 

[WolfCypher]

Gargan just needs to die. Painfully. Tortured first, then slained.

Bulls/Hawkeye did do some crazy stuff in that Dark Reign; Hawkeye mini. I never finished it, but I know his actions went public. Knowing Osborn, he found a way to sweep it under the rug.

 

[SouLeSS]

Has Bullseye even done anything particularly bad as Hawkeye in the public eye? I thought he still looked like a perfectly stand-up hero between his trying to keep out of trouble and Osborn's spin machine cleaning up whatever little slip-ups he might've had.

Uh, you could say that. On top of killing ~40 civilians from a rogue Hulkbuster, he "saves" a lady from three thugs by killing the three said thugs, and then kills the lady. All of which is caught on a live news feed via helicopter. He then "corrects" this problem by blowing up said helicopter.

So yeah, he's tarnished it pretty good. And that doesn't even include the hundreds of people he killed when he blew up a building while fighting Daredevil. Don't remember if that ever got made "public" like the rest, but uh..

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Then I fully support a feud between him and Clint after he's ousted. Not that Bullseye really needs another nemesis. He already shows up often enough for Daredevil and Deadpool.