Siege

[TheCorpulent1]

He is, although that dude in the comic looked distinctly white. Your bad, Lark.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Spoiler

Hawkeye puts an arrow in Norman's face as he gets off an elevator.

You fo' real?!?

 

[Anubis]

Real as a dollar bill.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I still can't quite tell if you are being serious

But that's a good thing, I don't wanna know fo sure. All I'll say is I could imagine something like that happening.

 

[Anubis]

Bendis is writing it, so anythings possible, and by anything, I mean

hawkeye: I'm going to...

Osborne: What are you doing with that bow!

Hawkeye: I'm going to...

Osborne: What?

Hawkeye: Shoot you in the face!

Osborne: Really?

Hawkeye: Yeah...

Osborne: Oy gevalt.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Heh, "gevalt," he says. This guy.

 

[Anubis]

I thought, maybe I should go with Gefilte Fish, but I figured that would be a bit too....esoteric.

 

[NightBeetle]

''Brian Reed Gets "Embedded"

In the Marvel Universe, Urich is the author of a book titled "Legacy of Evil," which is about Norman Osborn's career as the Green Goblin. Given their history together, and Urich's incorruptible nature, sparks are sure to fly when the reporter becomes part of the embedded press corps covering Norman Osborn's campaign against Asgard. "I'm looking forward to an upcoming scene with Ben and Norman. We got a glimpse of this scene at the end of 'Secret Invasion: Front Line,' but Norman had the rest of the world press there to defend him at the time," Reed explained. "What's going to happen when it's just Ben and Norman? That's a scene I'm looking forward to writing."


"Siege: Embedded" is a road trip style story that begins at the location of the incident which kicks off "Siege" and follows the action all the way to Broxton, Oklahoma and Asgard, the mythical city that floats over it. "Ben starts by going to look at the incident that starts 'Siege.' In the process, he realizes that Norman Osborn has stacked the deck and is using the reporters he wants, to tell the stories he wants to tell," Reed revealed. "Ben being Ben doesn't like that, and when you add that to his already volatile relationship with Norman, it means it's now time to kick Norman Osborn's ass using the bastion of journalism."


"We get introduced to an old friend of his who was on New York television at some point. We also get to hang out with Volstagg from the Warriors Three for a couple of issues, and we'll see the Dark Avengers around. So there are some new and some old supporting characters, but everything is very much focused on Ben."


Siege: Embedded" also features a different tone than "Secret Invasion: Front Line" in that it's not as dark. "There is a chance for humor here, which sounds funny considering what the subject matter is, but when you've got Volstagg on the page for a few issues, there's a chance for humor," Reed said. "And there are some elements going on with different characters where they lend themselves to lightening the situation a bit more than 'Front Line,' where it was a normal day and then all of a sudden it was, 'Oh God! We're all going to die!'



"This also has scenes where we're talking with soldiers and learning how much downtime there is in a war situation, and the best thing you can do at that point is make yourself laugh," Reed added. "Otherwise, you're just going to go nuts waiting for bad things to happen."

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Heh, Volstagg's great.

 

[JewishHobbit]

I'm so torn on this one. I loved Civil War: Frontline for the first half but hated the second half. I skimmed several issues of both Hulk and Secret Invasion's versions of Frontline and neither caught my eye. They just seemed boring to me, and umimportant to the overall story. But this one has caught my eye. I'm thinking I'll at least try the first issue and see where it goes from there.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Civil War and World War Hulk Frontline was hurt by the simple fact that it had that abomination of a character named Sally Floyd (the one comic book character that I hate more than Vixen). I actually liked Secret Invasion: Front Line and thought that Reed did a good job with it. I think Siege: Embedded will be just as good

 

[JewishHobbit]

I didn't mind Sally. I liked her in whatever that Decimation mini she debuted in, and I liked her in Frontline until the 2nd half. I just hated the way Jenkins steared the story. So Secret Invasion's was good huh? Maybe I'll try it at some point.

I'd probably pass on Embedded, but it's only 4 issues instead of 8, so it's more tempting to try it, but then again it'll also be $4 per issue, which is a turn off for me. I don't know. I'll skim it.

 

[hippie_hunter]

If you're into Ben Urich, then you should like it.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm not sure whether I'll buy it or not myself. It's ancillary to Siege so it probably won't count for much, I'm not a fan of Ben Urich at all, and it'll carry the $4 standard price for Marvel minis. But it's built around Volstagg, whom I love. The idea of Volstagg playing off normal humans should make for some funny moments, at least. But I don't know if those funny moments would really be worth it.

 

[Brown Lantern]

I was so pissed when I saw Soldier Field being blown up to start off Seige. Da Bears forever (even if we suck right now). Blow up Jerry World over in Dallas (but then again dead Texans wont evoke much reaction )

On the real though, this stunt feels way to been there done that.

 

[SouLeSS]

Oh that's a full sized bite for you? Allow me to take a nibble!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I was so pissed when I saw Soldier Field being blown up to start off Seige. Da Bears forever (even if we suck right now). Blow up Jerry World over in Dallas (but then again dead Texans wont evoke much reaction )

On the real though, this stunt feels way to been there done that.

It's supposed to. Osborn's using the Civil War formula to regain the public's attention and turn them against the Asgardians. The New Warriors provoked Nitro until he blew up Stamford, which turned the public against superheroes in general; Osborn set up Volstagg to fight the U-Men in the stadium and had the U-Men blow it up to turn the public against Asgardians in general. That way he gets the full support of the US people in what would otherwise be a rash and illegal (thanks to Iron Man) assault on the sovereign nation of Asgard.

 

[Brown Lantern]

Yeh I get that, but for me, and I stress the 'for me', it feels too contrived. I guess I just wanted something fresh. This moment didn't have the holy s*** feel that Stamford did (other than my love for Da Bears). I suppose the story will tell all, but this event seems like it would just spark the publics hatred of super-powered beings in general. People would question having Avengers at all, or why they elected a super powered being to lead them. I guess I just cant see the public souly blaiming the Asgardians.

 

[RockSP]

I guess I just cant see the public souly blaiming the Asgardians.

This is the marvel universe public. They are okay with super powered weirdos in spandex running around doing crazy stuff...as long as you weren't born with those powers.

They somehow forgot the Green Goblin is a murdering psychopath and have him running SHIELD-lite cuz he shot an alien in the head.

 

[roach]

which is why when the aliens attack we have to keep them away from Manson or he could end up running the CIA

 

[Franklin Richards]

Blow up Jerry World over in Dallas (but then again dead Texans wont evoke much reaction )

Don't Mess With The Rangers!

 

[Spider-Jay420]

They somehow forgot the Green Goblin is a murdering psychopath and have him running SHIELD-lite cuz he shot an alien in the head.

They didn't forget he was the Green Goblin. They don't care.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeh I get that, but for me, and I stress the 'for me', it feels too contrived. I guess I just wanted something fresh. This moment didn't have the holy s*** feel that Stamford did (other than my love for Da Bears). I suppose the story will tell all, but this event seems like it would just spark the publics hatred of super-powered beings in general. People would question having Avengers at all, or why they elected a super powered being to lead them. I guess I just cant see the public souly blaiming the Asgardians.

That would be the second part of Osborn's plan. All the public would know is that some oddly dressed weirdo with a sword got into a fight with some other oddly dressed weirdos and an entire stadium full of people died as a result while the weirdos got away scot-free. Then Osborn comes along and announces that HAMMER investigations have revealed that the party responsible was an Asgardian, a superpowered nut who claims he's an actual, living god, and then he reminds everyone that there's a whole city of these psychos floating over US soil in Oklahoma. He could even offer a faux olive branch and just ask the Asgardians to turn Volstagg alone over to him. They'll refuse of course, and then Osborn swears to hold the whole lot of them responsible for Volstagg's recklessness and remind the gods that here in the present, when man has mastered the world, even gods aren't above the law. The public cheers as Osborn goes to town on Asgard and no one cares one iota that Thor is a god who's defended humankind for years or that Volstagg was trying to help or that the gods have managed to live peacefully with the people of Broxton for a while now.

It's fear-mongering plus the power of the media in action, which have always been major themes of Dark Reign.

 

[Anubis]

Which ultimately will be Osborn's downfall when it all comes down to it.

 

[kguillou]

Am i the only one who still feels Spider-man should be the one taking Osborn down? I mean, the guy killed the love of his life for god's sake. This has got to be personal for him. Plus Spidey could really really use a big heroic moment right about now.