Siege

[Colossal Spoons]

I still like had Thor permanently retired his replacements ass. The Sentry was always considered Marvels crazy Superman. Yet there is Thor with his big red cape. Marvels Superman is and always will be Thor. Iron Man is Batman and Captain America is Wonder woman. Though given how Sentry has control over his molecules I don't think he's out for the count.

Yeah, Thor really needed this win.

*waits for hater to say "Tony softened him up though!"*

 

[Vartha]

I'd be happy with either idea.
Notice that Heimdall has BECOME Bifrost?
Well more like a Transporter but it makes complete sense he could do that. I'd never seen him use that power but it fits.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

I really dunno if I like the idea of it being up there, I mean Hemidall can already see everyone and their mom, does he need the portal?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

It makes America feel safer

 

[Vartha]

I really dunno if I like the idea of it being up there, I mean Hemidall can already see everyone and their mom, does he need the portal?

Heimdal IS the portal, HE transfered the Tower to the top of Avengers Tower.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

So like, we step through a door and exit out Hemidall?

I don't even wanna know how you get back in.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

 

[Aesop Rocks]

*waits for hater to say "Tony softened him up though!"*

Spoiler

HATERS GONNA HATE

What, I literally have NO idea how the hell they're going to do this.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I dryfaced at the imagery of what you suggested. It could be like Cloak, but you just walk into that purple staff of his.

Maybe his staff is a portkey. /Harry Potter

 

[Aesop Rocks]

So did I

 

[Vartha]

So like, we step through a door and exit out Hemidall?

I don't even wanna know how you get back in.

Well heh I don't think it works like that.
I just think you go to him and he sends you to Asgard or visa versa. He is after all the guardian of Bifrost.

 

[Havok83]

well at least this is finally done. Maybe now we can finally mvoe on to some good stories

 

[Saint]

I'm fairly annoyed that Bendis didn't bother to clean up the mess he made of the Sentry. I'm generally a Bendis supporter, but this is one area where he's really stepped in it--he completely changed the character's personality for vague reasons and tampered with his history to the point where it simply no longer makes much sense. I was expecting (or hoping) that the developments in Dark Avengers and Siege #3 meant that Bendis was going to tie it all up and give us the final word on what the Sentry is and how the assorted explanations for the Void work together.

Instead, Osborn babbles about the Sentry being the Angel of Death, Thor hits him with a hammer, and nobody bothers to ask "Why should we expect this death to last any longer than the last two times he was killed?"

Sloppy, sloppy work. The Sentry went down like a chump, too: while Thor was the obvious choice to do the job, the fact that Bob went down so easily doesn't ring true, given all the hype around his apparently limitless power.

I also personally would have liked to have seen some hint of the real Sentry--the one from Jenkins' original series, before Bendis ruined him. The one who wasn't a whimpering puppy. I would have liked to have seen the Sentry take control of himself long enough for the heroes to take him out.

"Fallen Sun" also seemed a little hollow, given that I wasn't sure that the characters were supposed to remember the days before Sentry was a whimpering nothing. Just more jumbled history that needs to be cleaned up. Hopefully, when Sentry makes his inevitable return, it will be under the watch of someone who can clean up this mess and make the character interesting again.

As for the rest, well, an Asgardian, uh, embassy on Avengers tower is pretty cool, and Steve Rogers becoming head of SHIELD is a great idea, even if I and everyone else saw it coming on the last page of "Who Will Wield the Shield?" Also, Spider-Man really needed to get a few good lines (and hits) on Norman; I find it difficult to believe he would maintain such good humour about Norman Osborn running the world.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

I actually didn't like Fallen Sun that much, it was literally more about Tony's Alcoholism than it was Sentry,

 

[Vartha]

didn't get Fallen Sun, the books weren't all out when I was at the LCS

 

[hippie_hunter]

I still like had Thor permanently retired his replacements ass. The Sentry was always considered Marvels crazy Superman. Yet there is Thor with his big red cape. Marvels Superman is and always will be Thor. Iron Man is Batman and Captain America is Wonder woman. Though given how Sentry has control over his molecules I don't think he's out for the count.

I've always seen Captain America as Marvel's Superman, Thor as Marvel's Wonder Woman, and Iron Man is indeed Marvel's Batman.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I've always seen Thor and Cap as different sides of Superman (Thor = power, Cap = symbolism), Iron Man as Batman, and no one as Wonder Woman...

 

[random_havoc]

I'm just gonna spoiler tag the whole thing to be safe.

Spoiler

There's a whole lot of crap here that didn't make sense. Rogue having supposedly slept with Sentry is one of them in that when the heck would that have happened? She shouldn't even remember his past heroic time period. The idea that he could touch her without absorbing his powers seems fine though since he was able to pull a lotta crap no one else could.
It's just plain stupid that this is supposed to be some sort of conclusion given that Bendis had him ressurect himself a bunch of times within the last few months. Just who the hell is doing quality control for Marvel continuity these days? ******ed monkeys?
The only interpretation I can make sense of for Sentry dying is that he let Thor kill him, since Thor's attacks hadn't even been hurting Sentry before he started begging to die. But throwing him into the sun? Seriously? That's like tucking Sentry into bed.
The whole conclusion felt terribly rushed. The Fallen Son thing could have helped except, as also previously pointed out by another poster, the continuity stuff there is just terrible as well.
I've been dying to see them deal with Scout again, but when they finally do there's no mention of the how he dealt with the revelation that it was actually a persona of his mentor who took off his arm and otherwise maimed him?

And there wasn't even a rational reason given as how they gained victory over the Void. This was a really crappy conclusion as a whole. Really crappy.

 

[squeekness]

I'm just gonna spoiler tag the whole thing to be safe.

Spoiler

There's a whole lot of crap here that didn't make sense. Rogue having supposedly slept with Sentry is one of them in that when the heck would that have happened? She shouldn't even remember his past heroic time period. The idea that he could touch her without absorbing his powers seems fine though since he was able to pull a lotta crap no one else could.
It's just plain stupid that this is supposed to be some sort of conclusion given that Bendis had him ressurect himself a bunch of times within the last few months. Just who the hell is doing quality control for Marvel continuity these days? ******ed monkeys?
The only interpretation I can make sense of for Sentry dying is that he let Thor kill him, since Thor's attacks hadn't even been hurting Sentry before he started begging to die. But throwing him into the sun? Seriously? That's like tucking Sentry into bed.
The whole conclusion felt terribly rushed. The Fallen Son thing could have helped except, as also previously pointed out by another poster, the continuity stuff there is just terrible as well.
I've been dying to see them deal with Scout again, but when they finally do there's no mention of the how he dealt with the revelation that it was actually a persona of his mentor who took off his arm and otherwise maimed him?

And there wasn't even a rational reason given as how they gained victory over the Void. This was a really crappy conclusion as a whole. Really crappy.

Spoiler

That business with Rogue sounds like some hokey they just made up. Me, being anti-ROMY, just sees it as another excuse why she and the Cajun need to just end it all and put themselves out of their misery.

 

[Manic]

In terms of Marvel's Superman, it's really not an easy answer. Captain America has the inspirational qualities of Superman, Thor has the power, and Spider-Man has the nerdy everyman quality.

The major heroes of each company are so different, you need multiple heroes to capture every shared quality. You have to get a tad more obscure than Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman if you want to find a near-perfect parallel.

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

Disappointed. Was hoping those spoilers on the net read a couple days ago were fake. Bendis seems to get these event style things off to a great start but never seems to be able to finish right for me. I like his dialogue and his character and his action has been improved lately but he needs to work on his "finishing moves" in his big battles.

 

[ssj wolverine]

As an admitted Thor fanboy seing him be the final nail in the coffin for the supposed omnipotent Sentry made up for everything. This is the Thor that should have destroyed RHulk in their first meeting.

 

[Cth]

As an admitted Thor fanboy seing him be the final nail in the coffin for the supposed omnipotent Sentry made up for everything. This is the Thor that should have destroyed RHulk in their first meeting.

Technically, Thor took out Robert, who willed the attack to go through in an act of suicide.

Essentially, it's the end of WWH all over again.

Thor took out a defenseless human. Way to go Goldilocks!

 

[chris moore]

I don't get how Sentry died. The guy got atomised by molecule man and brought himself back together. But the heroes managed to defeat him by.... hitting him really hard? Even that shouldnt (and not that I agree with the guy's power levels) have been enough to even momentarily knock him out of his void funk and into Bob mode.

And I felt completely cheated by the one shot. Didn't tell us a damn thing about him. We don't definitively know what he was, who he was, what really gave him his powers, what he definitively could do. Nothing. If there's one thing I took away from every one shot, special or personal issue devoted to the Sentry it's that he was brought back (creatively speaking) from the publishing trickery that he started out as simply to be a tool for Bendis to shape to fit whatever the situation demanded. And that makes Sentry a hollow and unworthy character as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Brainiac 8]

In terms of Marvel's Superman, it's really not an easy answer. Captain America has the inspirational qualities of Superman, Thor has the power, and Spider-Man has the nerdy everyman quality.

The major heroes of each company are so different, you need multiple heroes to capture every shared quality. You have to get a tad more obscure than Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman if you want to find a near-perfect parallel.

Pretty much this.

The one Marvel character closest to having the importance of Superman within the Marvel Universe is Captain America. But overall, you would defintely need several heroes to make up the qualities that make up Superman.