Siege

[Saint]

Oh yeah, I have no doubts about that. But I just think Loki got short-changed in the end here. I get it, they wanted it to be all about the good guys getting their time in the sun, but I think a single beat somehow showing how Loki had one-upped death and how everything was still going to plan would have been a nice coda to this long con of his. Maybe we'll get something like that in the next issue of Thor.

While Loki's "Poof, he's gone!" death was incredibly mediocre, it was almost worth it for the great reaction it got out of Thor. Furthermore, while JMS's perpetually one-step-ahead Loki was infinitely awesome, I did like the "Wait, this isn't going according to plan" moment, too.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't really see how there's not room for both. You can argue that the execution didn't really work (although Loki died in almost the exact same way that everyone was psyched about when it happened to Ares two issues ago), but the event itself fit the story perfectly. The villains had free reign and got so out of control that they literally bring about their own downfall.

Loki can be as many steps ahead of everyone else as you want him to be, but he's still a god and it's probably pretty tough for a god of Loki's arrogance to ever conceive of a mere mortal wielding power like the Void's and literally destroying heaven. He made one slip-up in his Machiavellian scheming and it cost him everything he held dear. Loki's conclusion, humbling to Loki himself though it may be, works just fine for me. I'm not really sure what the problem with it is.

Oh yeah, I have no doubts about that. But I just think Loki got short-changed in the end here. I get it, they wanted it to be all about the good guys getting their time in the sun, but I think a single beat somehow showing how Loki had one-upped death and how everything was still going to plan would have been a nice coda to this long con of his. Maybe we'll get something like that in the next issue of Thor.

The next couple issues of Thor are dealing with those proto-Valkyries who eat the souls of the dead, who were introduced in Siege: Loki, so there's a chance we might see something about Loki.

Regardless, though, I don't think anybody really expects Loki to stay gone for long. His death kind of brings the Avengers mythos full circle, since he brought the Avengers together in the first place and now he dies giving the reunited Avengers a fighting chance against an even greater evil. But he's a god and a popular villain and he made that deal with Hela and (most importantly) he's got a movie coming out in a year. He'll be back in no time.

 

[random_havoc]

My reviews of Siege 4 and Sentry: Fallen Sun if anyone cares to give em a read:

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/reviews/127385956736936.htm

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/reviews/12738596255028.htm

 

[Vartha]

I bought for Thor only actually. I was surprised the LCS had Fallen Sun today, because they said they had to reorder it.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Fallen Sun was alright i reckon. I liked the part where Thor went to tell Bob's mum about what happened... and he ended up having a dance with her. It was cute

As for Loki's end? I thought it was quite fitting actually.

He's all about causing mischief and trouble, but i thought he genuinely regretted what he did. He helped the his brother and the others and lost his own life.

It's the start of the Heroic Age, i think one of the most villainous villains doing something quite heroic fits that.

 

[runawayboulder]

Loki didn't regret anything. He made that deal in his SIEGE oneshot with Mephisto and Hela. It's all part of his game.

 

[Still A ThorFan]

Siege showed Thor is not to be messed with. That crazy mofo will fry you to a cinder, pound you to mush with his hammer, throw your corpse into THE SUN then go dance with your mama.

Yet, he can't be the Hulk. Go figure.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Loki didn't regret anything. He made that deal in his SIEGE oneshot with Mephisto and Hela. It's all part of his game.

I think that's bulls***, to be honest. Loki could've helped Thor and the others against the Void without shedding tears and giving us page after page of internal monologue detailing his recent, tragic mistakes. I don't think he's dead at all or, if he is, he won't stay dead for long because he put those safeguards in place with Hela, but I also don't think that stops his regret at having aided the mortals' destruction of Asgard from being genuine. As JMS wrote back in Amazing Spider-Man: Loki's complicated.

 

[Seibrix]

Not into what happened in Seige. I know, I know, I am going to sound like a broken record but, I believe it needs to be reiterated. The Void broke every bone in the Hulks body, yet is shut down with one good swing of Thor's hammer. Oh and a ballistic Helicarrier which apparently was strong enough to depower Bob. Gtfoh. Weak.

 

[Manic]

I believe the end justifies the means.

In other words, I'll accept whatever bull**** they'll come up with, as long as it gets rid of Sentry.

 

[Eros]

Siege showed Thor is not to be messed with. That crazy mofo will fry you to a cinder, pound you to mush with his hammer, throw your corpse into THE SUN then go dance with your mama.

Yet, he can't be the Hulk. Go figure.

Maybe he will throw a Gamma Bomb at hulk, after he fights him next time. He seems to like throwing his defeated oponents into things that make them more powerful.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I do agree that the way Void was dispatched was pretty weak. Too simple and straightforward, considering the way he's been bigged up recently.

I would of thought they'd get Reed in and send him to a pocket universe or the N-Zone or something like that.

When Stark turned the Helicarrier into a a bomb i was like though.

 

[NickNitro]

Not being a crazy advocate comic book reader I did pick up Siege 1-4 and really enjoyed them. Now you can dismiss my claims because I know little of the comic book world but I enjoyed Loki's "demise". When he says about not wanting to destroy Asgard but to have it be back in its rightful placed ruled by its rightful rulers shows that no matter how much Loki despises Thor and is a great villian he understands his role and all other Asgardians and how it should rightfully be. He would sacrifice everything planning Osborns invasion of Asgard so it could be so.

No matter how villianous Loki is, he still understands the balance of the 9 realms and what his Asgardian brothers and sisters deserve.

I know little of Sentry and what not but having Thor completely a*& rape him and throw him into the sun for killing Loki really showed that no matter how much Thor looks like hes getting his butt handed to him, in the end Mjolnir and The Mighty Thor will LAY THE SMACK DOWN.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea Thor is the man. I'm glad he was the one who killed Void, but it did seem kinda i dunno, anti climatic.

 

[cthulhu]

test

 

[Manic]

Maybe he will throw a Gamma Bomb at hulk, after he fights him next time. He seems to like throwing his defeated oponents into things that make them more powerful.

He threw Sentry into a vat of drugs?

He had the power of a million exploding suns, he wasn't powered by the sun.

 

[Raiden]

He threw Sentry into a vat of drugs?

He had the power of a million exploding suns, he wasn't powered by the sun.

Another reason why Sentry should never be brought back no matter what; his powers are just too ridiculous and make it rather impossible to define in the comics. Superman is the same, but at least he's Superman; Sentry doesn't hold a candle to the Man of Steel.

 

[SouLeSS]

Whahahahaha.

So this guy right. Gets his face blown off? That's nothing, he'll be back. Get
s utterly destroyed by Morganna? Don't worry, he's coming back in a few seconds. Gets ripped apart atom by atom by the Molecule man with a cosmic cube? Yeah he comes right back together and ****s Molecule Man's **** up. Takes out all of Asgard with his ****ing head and fist, and quite literally, shrugs off the heroes AFTER they had been powered up by the Norn stones. Built up to literally god like proportions where NOTHING could stop him.

Then, because pages dictate it, he just decides that he's ok with dying and 1 thunderbolt kills him, and he gets thrown in to the sun?

Are you ****ing kidding me?

BBBBBBEEEEEENNNNNNDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIISSSSSSS!!!!!!

 

[kguillou]

^HAHAHA. Well i mean, i think the way we're supposed to read it is that Bob purposely lowered his power defenses and let thor kill him as opposed to the other times where he was fully powered up and had no intention of dying. Thor killed him while he was in Bob Reynolds form, so i think thats supposed to make a difference. BUT i can definitely see why people call shenanigans over it regardless.

 

[Vartha]

It wasn't BOB's form, it was the void.
To me the story was too rushed, the void fight could have been explained more. It was way too short. Personally I think there could have been one more book, but, Bendis would have still had problems ending it.

 

[kguillou]

It definitely could have been longer but i was very satisfied with what we got though. This was by far the best "event" book put out so far, or at least a close tie with Sinestro Corps war. The one thing that annoyed the hell out of me was how bendis wrote Thor. The guy cannot for the life of him write a good Thor. He has Thor say the most cliched, cheesiest lines in existence. He comes nowhere close to Stracynski or Fraction's poetic, faux-Shakespearean dialect.

But anyway, i thought this was the first event in a long while that actually felt like an "Event" and not a means to an end like House of M, Civil War, and Secret Invasion were. It would have been nice to have a tiny Spiderman/Osborn moment tucked in there somewhere but hey, you can't have it all i guess.

 

[SouLeSS]

It wasn't BOB's form, it was the void.
To me the story was too rushed, the void fight could have been explained more. It was way too short. Personally I think there could have been one more book, but, Bendis would have still had problems ending it.

I saw it as Bob snapping back into it, realizing what he had done, and made it possible for them to kill Void, but that still doesn't make it any less of a ******** moment.

 

[Spider-Jay420]

It would have been nice to have a tiny Spiderman/Osborn moment tucked in there somewhere but hey, you can't have it all i guess.

Spidey got his moment is SIEGE #3.

AS far as the end of the Sentry, I guess we just have to read it as Bob allowed Thor to put him out of his misery. They way Bob was begging Thor to kill him, I guess he can be killed as Bob. I mean, if his powers are tied into his personalities or psychosis or whatever, when he reverts back into Bob, which, like, never happens, he's weak and vulnerable. I guess that's the only way it makes any sense.

 

[Spider-Jay420]

It wasn't BOB's form, it was the void.

That's true.

Uh, internally bob was struggling with the Void and kept him from accessing his full powers, thus allowing Thor to fry him and not have access to his molecule "do-whatever-I-want" powers. How's that?

 

[kguillou]

Spidey got his moment is SIEGE #3.

AS far as the end of the Sentry, I guess we just have to read it as Bob allowed Thor to put him out of his misery. They way Bob was begging Thor to kill him, I guess he can be killed as Bob. I mean, if his powers are tied into his personalities or psychosis or whatever, when he reverts back into Bob, which, like, never happens, he's weak and vulnerable. I guess that's the only way it makes any sense.

Meh, I wanted more than just one panel. It would have been nice for Spiderman to at least get a small monologue or something where he confronts Norman. I mean, This battle should have been personal for Spiderman, we should have gotten at least one page of Spiderman vs Osborn, even if it was just a verbal confrontation, i would have loved that. In fact, i probably would have preferred it if Osborn and Spidey just exchanged a few words. I mean give us SOMETHING to acknowledge that these two have deep history.