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Horror Sinners - Michael B. Jordan/Ryan Coogler Reunite

Given her multi ethnic background, I'm wondering how much Coogler is going to factor that into the plot and themes of the movie.

 
DEADLINE: What are your go-to horror movies, that made you have to play in that sandbox?

COOGLER:
I consider Spielberg’s work in the horror space to be a bit of a North Star. And it is complicated with him, right, because he hasn’t out and out made a horror movie before. But I would classify Jaws as a creature feature horror film, and Jurassic Park as well. Jurassic Park is a stealth horror movie. The whole thing of, what if dinosaur were real? But when you talk about those T-Rex scenes, the Velociraptor intro, the ‘raptors in the Kitchen, that is out and out horror cinema. And it is popular. It is visceral. It gets the audience feeling like they’re on a damn roller coaster ride. Then there’s this movie that came out in 2015 called Green Room. You seen it?

DEADLINE: No, I haven’t.

COOGLER:
Oh, it’s fantastic, Fleming. And it is basically like the house of horrors movie played for real over 24 hours. This semi-pro punk band gets stuck in a venue in rural Oregon that’s owned by neo-Nazis that are led by Patrick Stewart. And it is brilliant, bro. And the makeup effects are so stark that I hired the guy that did them, for Sinners. A guy named Mike Fontaine, who’s exceptional, a savant. He’s the guy who put the penguin prosthetics on Colin Farrell for that show.

Taking it back, I love John Carpenter. My dad’s favorite movie as you know is Rocky II. We never talked about what his second favorite movie is, though, and that’s Halloween. So if I watched Rocky II five times, I watched Halloween three times. One of my mom’s favorite Carpenter films is The Thing. They love Carpenter, but different films and the only film they ever agree on to watch is The Fugitive. Otherwise, he’s watching Steven Seagal films and she’s watching Martin Scorsese films. My dad, every time he’s taking Halloween and maybe Assault on Precinct 13. For mom, it was The Thing. I love it, the isolation, the practical effects, the cosmic horror of it, and the threat, the idea of, Hey, you got to stop this thing, or it’s going to wreck the plant. All of a sudden, a rag tag group of guys that can’t figure out how to do a blood test, now have to save the planet. There’s Robert Rodriguez and From Dusk Till Dawn
DEADLINE: Sinners made me think of that film, which Quentin Tarantino wrote and which starts as a tense kidnap drama with Tarantino and George Clooney, and then becomes a full-out vampire film.

COOGLER:
Even more than From Dusk Till Dawn, I love The Faculty from Rodriguez. I love how he mashed up Invasion of the Body Snatchers and The Thing, but set it in a 1990s high school. I love the confusing mishmash of movie and setting. And then a big one for me that I heard about and finally got to see, was Don’t Look Now. A fu*king masterpiece, bro. And it has the best intimacy scene I’ve ever seen in a movie. And how you got to see these characters experience pleasure and it buttressed how dark the movie actually is, in a way that informs relationships and informs the world. But that movie just took my breath away. Also love Rosemary’s Baby and The Silence of the Lambs.
 
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I’m really glad he got a break in between his Black Panther movies. Wakanda Forever felt like a ton of typical studio meddling and it felt like Coogler’s heart just wasn’t in it after the death of Boseman.

From interviews I’ve seen with Sinners, he seems really rejuvenated and I hope that carries over to Black Panther 3 as well.
 
I’m really glad he got a break in between his Black Panther movies. Wakanda Forever felt like a ton of typical studio meddling and it felt like Coogler’s heart just wasn’t in it after the death of Boseman.

From interviews I’ve seen with Sinners, he seems really rejuvenated and I hope that carries over to Black Panther 3 as well.

On the contrary, I thought Wakanda Forever felt like Coogler and his cast were sharing their grief and disbelief with us. It permeated throughout the entire movie and it felt palpable. I still can't rewatch it but so much, not because it was a bad movie, just because it stirs up a lot of emotion.
 
On the contrary, I thought Wakanda Forever felt like Coogler and his cast were sharing their grief and disbelief with us. It permeated throughout the entire movie and it felt palpable. I still can't rewatch it but so much, not because it was a bad movie, just because it stirs up a lot of emotion.

Everything dealing with his death, yes. Basically the first half an hour - and last 10 minutes with the son, I agree he’s fully engaged.

But the rest is just a slog of studio notes and just stuffed to the gills with everything you can tell Marvel mandates wanted him to put in to set up other things that don’t really matter to this particular story. Those are the sections that don’t feel like Coogler.

It’s funny because it feels like what happened to Nia DaCosta where she said “this isn’t the movie I pitched or even the first version we shot”. Now Wakanda Forever is still a much better film than The Marvels. But the situation sounds similar in this case.
 
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Wakanda Forever is almost like Kendrick's Mr. Morale to me. Solid, but you can tell they're working through a lot of ish during it and that amount of vulnerability can be hard to watch/listen to at times.
 
As far as studio-mandated decisions go, I never thought Wakanda Forever got too over the top with it. Out of all of the post-Endgame movies, I'd even go so far as to say it's the one with the least amount of interference after Guardians 3. Were it a T'Challa movie, Riri would have felt shoehorned if she was anything more than a cameo but with Shuri as the lead, she felt like a natural counterpart to her given they're both tech geniuses. As for Valentina, she plays such a small role in it that it's easy to forget that she's even in the movie. If anything it feels like she's just there to pad out Agent Ross's storyline.

But tying Wakanda Forever into Sinners, the part where the Talokan attack the ship and their terrifying siren song is why I'm most excited to see Coogler tackle a full-on horror movie. He knows what he's doing.
 
That settles it. IMAX showing it is.

Though I'm pretty sure they forgot about Avatar 3.

That one was shot with 3D cameras with the 1.90 : 1 aspect ratio for IMAX.
 
That one was shot with 3D cameras with the 1.90 : 1 aspect ratio for IMAX.
I'm seeing Avatar 2 and 3 were shot with the Sony Venice 3D IMAX camera. Is that significantly different from regular IMAX cameras apart from the 3D?
 

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