Some possible preproduction info about the Hulk

[not_a_victim]

Let me start this with a couple caveats...
1. I IN NO WAY claim this is some confirmed info. You will understand that fact once you read below.
2. I am not any insider, know an insider, or once dated the sister of the best friend's cousin of an insider, etc.
Because I am a cop, I am in contact with lots of cops from the west coast. I do not say that to make myself any more credible, because I am not looking to be some internet god who knows stuff others dont. I simply know a lot of cops who work with and in the studios, etc in their job capacity, and a couple of them are actually answering the casting call.
Ok, so with all that in mind, here goes...
There is suppossedly an "underground" casting call for extremely musclular males, between 20-35, and they have be 6'3" at the minimum. By "underground", it is understood that the studio is trying to avoid internet lashback, so there is no official advertisement for the job. To me, that would seem to be against S.A.G. requirements, but I digress... It is known that the a studio is looking to make a "comic book" movie, and the official completely unconfirmed "confirmed" rumor is that it is the Incredible Hulk.
Now read this part VERY carefully, as I don't want your sloppy forum habits to be an excuse to flame me...
The thinking is that the studio is NOT LOOKING TO CAST THE HULK, but to do early make-up and FX tests to see if the Hulk can be played by a man, or if they will need to result to CGI.
The rumored explanation for this is that H'Wood studios have done it all three ways; a human for the Incredible Hulk television series from a while back, body suits liike in LOEG, and then CGI from the Hulk movie, and the last two have been the least accepted, HOWEVER, they are looking for a way to avoid using a person as any person will never be as comic-realistic as this movie is being pushed to be.
Anyway, there it is. Do not shoot the messenger.
Later.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Thanks for the info, any news is good news (most of the time!!!!).

 

[Retroman]

Hmm...interesting. If true thanks for sharing this.

(if true)I guess Arad and Zak Penn won the debate for diet hulk over CG

They did some early test for a non-cg Hulk on the first movie and look extremely stupid in my opnion.

 

[lordofthenerds]

I hope they stick with the CGI.

 

[Sava]

thanks Not a Victim

 

[Weadazoid]

hmmmm Interesting


Persoanly I have always felt with the Hulk although Ang was quite bold in doing the Motion capture for the Hulk...it should in fact have been done by a much larger more muscular kinda guy.


Does the guy have to be an actor... not neccessarily...some say Banna should have done it or perhaps Serkis... again I would have to think an actors reaction to a physicaly dangerous man with muscles would be far more realisitic then simply looking at a guy like Serkis and trying to think of him as King Kong/ Hulk

Perhaps these underground tests are for just that type of person.



Goin the route of a wrestler may not aculay be a bad idea ....because physicaly they can probubly take direction quite well for Physical movements.

Going with 2 for a Abomination vs Hulk fight also is interesting.


As long as they keep the grappling to a minimum ... and no Pile Drivers or Suplexes.... welll... Maybe a Belly to back.


Note I am saying all of this only in the interst of Motion capture work..

 

[Sabretooth]

Hmm...interesting. If true thanks for sharing this.

(if true)I guess Arad and Zak Penn won the debate for diet hulk over CG

They did some early test for a non-cg Hulk on the first movie and look extremely stupid in my opnion.

Where can I find that?

 

[Symbiote Hulk]

Thanks, hopefully they will realize that a suit like in The Extaordinary League of Gentlemen will not work for the Hulk nor the Abomination

 

[weezerspider]

thanks for the info, I liked the CGI, I just hope that if they use a suit, he looks bigger than Thing.

 

[not_a_victim]

hmmmm Interesting


Persoanly I have always felt with the Hulk although Ang was quite bold in doing the Motion capture for the Hulk...it should in fact have been done by a much larger more muscular kinda guy.


Does the guy have to be an actor... not neccessarily...some say Banna should have done it or perhaps Serkis... again I would have to think an actors reaction to a physicaly dangerous man with muscles would be far more realisitic then simply looking at a guy like Serkis and trying to think of him as King Kong/ Hulk

Perhaps these underground tests are for just that type of person.



Goin the route of a wrestler may not aculay be a bad idea ....because physicaly they can probubly take direction quite well for Physical movements.

Going with 2 for a Abomination vs Hulk fight also is interesting.


As long as they keep the grappling to a minimum ... and no Pile Drivers or Suplexes.... welll... Maybe a Belly to back.


Note I am saying all of this only in the interst of Motion capture work..

No, there is not acting experience being requested ( I think that is how they are keeping the SAG people happy). Like I said, the idea going around is that they are not looking to cast the Hulk, just test make-up, FX, etc. truthfully, even those who have gotten the casting ( I need to stop calling it that) call don't even know if it is for the Hulk, just that it is a comic movie with a 2008 release.
Personally, I am leaning toward wanting to see a man portray Hulk, but I don't want to see the silliness of forced perspective, ala LOTR, as some actors don't know how to deal with it. Plus, when you KNOW it's forced perspective, you start looking for it, then it REALY stands out.
LOEG prostetics are my second choice. There were times when it looked alright, but sometimes it looked quite silly.
CGI on a big character can work. Van Helsing, with Mr. Hyde, looked pretty good, considering they had deuce for a CGI budget.
I am also eagerly awaiting the first truely robotic actor out there. I am not talking about anything even quasi-sentient, just a robotic/animatronic device that can move around, interact with it's enviroment through remote control, and do everything an actor can all the way through the movie. Not just an animatronice face, but the whole thing. It cant be more than 10-15 years away.

Edit: I havent figured out why some people automatically trash the idea of a wrestler being used. I will grant anyone this; with some wrestlers, you could cut their foot off, and they still would not be able to act like they were in pain, but some do an alright job. Besides, these guys basically perform a live stunt show, within 10 feet of the audience. You gotta give them credit for that.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Hmm...interesting. If true thanks for sharing this.

(if true)I guess Arad and Zak Penn won the debate for diet hulk over CG

They did some early test for a non-cg Hulk on the first movie and look extremely stupid in my opnion.

No. Zak Penn said Hulk has to be CGI with mixed animatronics, and motion capture. Surely the muscular casting call could be for motion capture or man in suit shots for close ups or specific scenes. Could also be for Abomination.

 

[Supreme Power]

Where can I find that?

LOL love your avatar man.

 

[Ions]

Could also be for Abomination.

Yeap, first film they got in big bodybuilders and observed their bodies to help make Hulk move realistically. Perhaps they are looking for a new guy to be Abom's template?

 

[Wyrminarrd]

I sure hope that all their doing is getting some one to try out the CGI and motion capture stuff. If they try and make the Hulk with a guy in a costume then I will not see this movie! That is just about the only thing they could do that would make me not go see it in theaters.

Watching the making of Hulk I always felt that Ang Lee looked silly doing the motion capture for Hulk, he´s a tiny guy trying play a giant and it simply didn´t work. Who ever they get to do the motion capture now had better be well suited to for the role and be able to give the Hulk a more confident look.

 

[Ions]

Watching the making of Hulk I always felt that Ang Lee looked silly doing the motion capture for Hulk, he´s a tiny guy trying play a giant and it simply didn´t work. Who ever they get to do the motion capture now had better be well suited to for the role and be able to give the Hulk a more confident look.

Yeah but that didn't really affect Hulk in the movie did it? Just because it looked silly doesn't mean it wasn't effective. Serkis isn't big like Kong, but Kong wasn't badly animated was he?

 

[Sava]

Ang was small and s**t but damn did the Hulk look great on screen

 

[Wyrminarrd]

There were a few places were I thought Ang Lee played the Hulk wrong, I´d have to watch the movie again to remember the exact places.

I do agree that Hulk was great in the movie, it´s just his body language is wrong in a couple of places imo.

 

[Retroman]

Where can I find that?

Here http://www.comics2film.com/Hulk3.shtml


As it turns out though after doing some further research those are NOT from Hulk but for another movie.


These however are early stuff they did for Hulk. Found them on fx guru Steve Johnson's official Edge FX site.

Source (Click on 'Never-Before-Seen' and go to numbers 20-24): http://www.edgefx.net/home.htm

 

[Steelsheen]

thanks for posting that Not_a_Victim.

i'm kind a wondering, the casting call, can it be for whoever will play Abomination? or perhaps someone they can use to model the CG Hulk and Abomination after, kinda like what they did with Superman-- "merging" the real actor and the CG version.

 

[Hiruu]

I hope they stick with CGI, but a mixture could work. They have to keep cost down, but ofcourse this film is coming out after Iron Man, so if that movie delivers a powerful result...marvel might be a bit more bold in pursuing a larger budget..$150-200 million in 3 years.

 

[Van Petrol]

Interesting, thanks for the info.

 

[Rac]

No for human-Hulk, yes for CGI-Hulk.

 

[not_a_victim]

I emailed a cop I know from the left coast, and he told me a guy from his dept. went to a make-up test supposedly related to the initial one i mentioned. The test was NOT for the hulk, but another Marvel comics movie, due out in late '08, early '09. I wont say anymore.

 

[Cdawg751]

I hope hulk they stick to CGI

 

[Weadazoid]

I emailed a cop I know from the left coast, and he told me a guy from his dept. went to a make-up test supposedly related to the initial one i mentioned. The test was NOT for the hulk, but another Marvel comics movie, due out in late '08, early '09. I wont say anymore.

interesting and good news for us CGI lovin fans