most posters on the board have the idea that Gotham STILL needs Batman? In Begins, Bruce made it clear that Gotham needed a dramatic example to shake them out of apathy...ergo Batman. In TDK, The Joker tries to prove that the citizens of Gotham would turn on themselves. At the end of TDKR, Batman's return inspires the citizens to fight, those that once were afraid, laid down their lives to fight Bane/Talia/LOS. So...why does Gotham still need Batman?